That Sinking Feeling

GAME 105 IN-GAME DISCUSSION THREAD [PARACHAT] ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS (51-55) @ CHICAGO CUBS (53-51) WRIGLEY FIELD, 1:20pm CDT, TV: WGN, KTVK
Greg Maddux, RHP
8-7, 4.41 ERA
85/23 K/BB, 19 HR in 136.2 IP
Brandon Webb, RHP
8-8, 4.11 ERA
101/41 K/BB, 15 HR in 142.1 IP
2B *Craig Counsell CF Jerry Hairston
RF *Chad Tracy
alker LF *Luis Gonzalez 1B Derrek Lee 1B *Tony Clark RF *Jeromy Burnitz 3B Troy Glaus 3B Aramis Ramirez CF *Shawn Green LF *Jody Gerut SS Royce Clayton SS #Neifi Perez C Chris Snyder C Michael Barrett P Brandon Webb P Greg Maddux No, not just because of the way this season seems to be slipping away from us inch by inch as we lose games because we can't score runs off Mike Gosling, but because Brandon Webb has one of the best sinking fastballs in the game. With Jody Gerut's downward chop of a swing, I'm betting on a lot of him grounding into a double play or two today.

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Hairston and Lee groundout--Walker lines out. This is basically what you'd expect from Webb. Does anyone know what Berny's numbers are off Webb? I get a sense with his swing he may have some of the homerun success that Webb's given up this year.

Perez 7th and Barrett 8th? In Dusty we Rusty.

Hairston is in a bad slump right now. Since taking over for Cpat in CF on July 8, he is:

20-79, 9 runs, 5 BB/HBP (.253 avg and .301 OBP)

God do we need a real everyday leadoff hitter...

"We" need a real everyday manager as well.
Proposed trade:
Dusty to the Dodgers for one of their grounds-keepers.

Hairston is in a BIG hitting slump right now...what IF Dusty trades him out and puts Murton in at the top of the line-up...? Who is more likely to get on base...? What do we have to lose ?

I don't even know what to say about this game. I'm signing off, turning off the game, and going to enjoy the rest of the day.

Stark is reporting that Soriano is not getting traded.

Scott, no complaints by me about tring Murton at #1 and CF.

The Multi-Million Dollar Maddux is giving up MANY More hits than the Rookie Rich Hill did yesterday...This is not good...Lets hope we can turn things around...Our Bullpen is going to get quite a work out this afternoon.

Our bullpen will continue to get a workout until this team can put a good solid lead on the board. The offense is pathetic...really.

How about this trade Maddux to the Yanks for a 26 year old in AA.

Remlinger loads the bases with walks and then gives up a GRAND SLAM (just when we couldn't afford it)...What a game.

"According to FSN Northwest, the Marlins have acquired Ron Villone from the Mariners for Yorman Bazardo and Mike Flannery. Jul. 31 - 3:52 pm et"

Nothing goin' on.

Ron Villone is the biggest name to get traded? Maybe the should move the deadline back a week.

Gerut to the Pirates for Lawton.

Anyone else watching Ryno?

I'm really enjoying the reminder of why he's the best player I've ever seen wear a Cub uniform. Simply a class act who really knows what makes baseball such a great game.

So far itis just Ron "I've sucked every year of my career before this" Villone and...

Buddy Groom has been traded from the Yankees to the Diamondbacks, ESPN reports.
It can't be for John Patterson. Expect it to be for a PTBN. Jul. 31 - 3:58 pm et

Mr. DFA. ...but wait...

ESPN's Buster Olney reports that Matt Lawton could go from the Pirates to the Cubs in exchange for Jody Gerut.
The Pirates hoped to do better than that for Lawton. Jul. 31 - 4:02 pm et

Sounds good to me, if that's all.

oooh, Farns to Braves.

Farnsy is a brave for Roman Colon and Zach Minor

um, not gonna talk about this game, other than i thought maddux was overpaid from the second he was signed by the cubs...

but

RYNO: "and for what it's worth, Ron Santo just gained another vote from the Veteran's Committee"

great quote, huge ovation from the cubs fans there....best part of my day. go ryno. i grew up with you as my cubs idol.

Steve Phillips needs to lay off the tanning...

Lawton is a Cub.

Anyone know who we gave up. I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised as long as we didn't give-up the farm.

Ryno: I didn't go looking for the red light on the camera after hitting a home run (paraphrased.)

Slight jab at Sammy, I'm guessing.

Ryno had a lot to say, surprisingly.

A fine rental, assuming Gerut is the extent of the price. Murton should get platoon starts:

2002-2004, Lawton vs...
RHP: 273/366/438
LHP: 219/318/363

Also intriguing:

Day (390 AB): 249/354/464
Night (990 AB): 260/352/395

I don't know. They were just talking about ESPN. Olney said earlier it was for Gerut but he is still in the game.

Ryno also made a couple other comments that I thought might have been slight jabs at Sammy, like "since when does hitting HRs make it ok to forget the rest of the game" and "in my day when a player came to spring training 20 pounds heavier they were considered out of shape"

Holly is in the game now.

Anyone know the details of lawton's contract?

ESPN just announced that we got Lawton.But no word on for who yet.

Ryno is a class act...Maybe he should be considered as a candidate to replace Dusty as the Cubs Manager...;-)

Gotta Love Ryno!

Lawton's in the final year of a 4 year/27 million deal. I couldn't find exact details, but it isn't much.

I don't have the game on, but the deal has yet to pop up in the ESPN wire or on Google News.

I think Lawton's contract is something like 1 year @ 7.5mm.

Thanks Galt, wasn't sure if he was signed through next year.

BBTN says that it is gerut that was traded.

ESPN tv just showed the trade as Gerut straight up for Lawton.

If that's all we're giving up for him, I suppose it's a pretty decent trade.

just announced the trade on WGN

WGN confirms Gerut for Lawton

Lawton will be leading off due to decent OBP

Ron Santo says Pittsburgh's Matt Lawton is pretty good lead-off hitter...He has an excellent OBP, runs well and is very good in the field.

Lawton will be leading off due to decent OBP

No he will be clogging up the bases leading off....you forget who his new manager is.

I wonder if Hendry's feels better dealing with the Pirates than anyone else. Essentially this was DuBois for Lawton

I think this could be a good deal for the Cubs...and IF we can get Nomar, Wood and Williamson firing on all 8 cylinders then we might be able to start to build some real momentum.

Pitt is one of 6-8 teams who would sell....as usual. Cinci had more costly players and others didn't have what Hendry needed.

"I wonder if Hendry's feels better dealing with the Pirates than anyone else."

Really, who wouldn't?

How do you think the OF is going to work.

RF: Lawton
CF: Burny
LF: Murton

Lawton is not that a great defender, and Hairston is only in the line-up to leadoff. I could see C-pat brought up and Murton sent to AAA.

Lawton may have been added to the team...and Nomar comes back Friday....and you know it's gonna be harder than hell for Dusty B to sit Hairston and Perez......maybe Nomar will get a plattoon with Neifi if he's lucky....and same thing with Hairston....aint' no way Dusty is sitting his boys everyday.

I think this is a very good trade. Lawton gets on base, has a little pop, and there's no big contract issues. I don't think many would complain about trading Dubois for Lawton, which is essentially what happened. I imagine murton will get the starts against lefties.

I know he's getting up there in age, but I would still like to see Hendry inquire about the availability of Lofton. His defense isn't great and his arm is even worse, but he gets on base and still has some speed. He was quite the sparkplug a few years back and think he'd excel in that role again. I don't think it would take that much to get him either, although it's assuming philly would give him up.

My prediction on the OF: Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz, with murton (hopefully) getting starts against lefties.

hard to get excited with this move...but given how soggy this offense is, this team needed an infusion of life weeks ago. If we see Lawton and Murton in the same outfield...we just might be door Matts

I don't know, do you think Dusty can afford to "experiment" with Matt Lawton in the Cubs outfield?

If anyone missed it on Comcast last night, they're showing "Ryno's Game" now on ESPN Classic.

Cubfan, on what planet is Hairston one of dusty's boys?

Hairston couldn't even get playing time when Walker was out for a month, he's only playing now because Hendry took away Baker's favorite free swinging Center Fielder.

I agree with Blue...

Lawton will probably play CF, otherwise Burnitz will

This moves Hairston back to the doghouse and Hollandsworth back to LF

Still looks dustbuster ugly to me.

I don't mind the Lawton trade at all, but I really hope Hendry keeps his eyes on potential players. I still think the Phillies will tank and Wagner might become available. I would give up prospects and a few arms for him if needed 1) to keep him away from the Cards and 2) see if he can be locked up for the next couple of years. He would be an anchor for our bullpen.

I still think the Phillies will tank and Wagner might become available.

I don't think the Cubs would have a chance to acquire him at this point. He would more than likely be claimed before it was the Cubs turn to pluck him off the waiver wire.

I would give up prospects and a few arms for him if needed 1) to keep him away from the Cards

You don't have to worry about that. The Cardinals have absolutely no interest in Wagner.

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