Today in Cubs History: 12-19

12-19-2003 - Traded Wilton Chavez to the Montreal Expos. Received Jose Macias. 12-19-2000 - Signed Todd Hundley as a free agent. Think this is bad? Tomorrow isn't any better.

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Dodgers on the rampage--they just signed Kenny Lofton.

they gonna sign a 4/5 pitcher and some bullpen help to go with their bats?

Definitely Da Bears!!!

Why is it that the two articles I've seen talking about how much the Cubs want Jones are both from Min? If there's really that much interest, why isn't Chitown reporting it? Otherwise, is it just straight rumor/bs/spin/generating buzz that really isn't there for a guy that used to play there?? (It would help in his negotiations with KC for sure)

12-19-2003 - Traded Wilton Chavez to the Montreal Expos. Received Jose Macias.

12-19-2000 - Signed Todd Hundley as a free agent.

A dark day indeed.

*** Dodgers on the rampage--they just signed Kenny Lofton. ***

When your big-market team finishes fourth in your division, it calls for drastic measures. Oh, wait...

If you want to do Lee, I suggest opening with 3 years and 35 mil with 5 mil up front. I'd go as high as 41 mil with 7 mil up front. (In our case, since it's win now, I'd do 10 mil deferred instead of the signing bonus.) So, he gets his 9.5 in 6; in 7, 8 an 9 he gets 12 then we pay him 3.33 for the next three. Rebuild or reload, I don't freaking care. Lock Lee though the early thirties or look stupid.

Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing could be worse than Todd Hundley and Jose Macias. We'll see tomorrow.

12/20/02 Cubs sign LHP Shawn Estes to one-year contract.

yuck.

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  • Even from an on-field perspective, Torres is a 19-year-old beating up High-A pitching who also plays a great SS. Even if he never develops a legit MLB power stroke, he's still an obvious 4-tool guy with a very high floor. Sucks to trade away his next 6-8 years for a closer, albeit a great one.

    John Beasley 1 hour 14 min ago view
  • "Like the Chapman deal for Cubs from on-field POV, wish I didn't now have to feel lousy following an otherwise likable Cubs team." @jonahkeri

    pretty much sums up my feelings

    Rob G. 7 hours 24 min ago view
  • You mean Yankees?

    QuietMan 7 hours 27 min ago view
  • Cards lose!

    billybucks 7 hours 35 min ago view
  • You do have a point. The TheoJed certainly would need to address this in a transparent way. Milton Bradley was no help to the team.

    The E-Man 7 hours 47 min ago view
  • FWIW, the Cubs would get a compensation draft pick between the 1st & 2nd rounds (around #35) if they extend a Qualifying Offer to Chapman post-2016 (probably about $17M), Chapman declines, and then he signs with another MLB club before next year's draft. 

    Arizona Phil 7 hours 53 min ago view
  • This all assumes Chapman doesn't want to be a free agent and possibly sign a $20MM+/year deal. We all know free agents get overpaid, sometimes dramatically (Hello, JayHey!). Not sure why Chapman would agree to the extension. If i'm is agent, I would tell him I could get I'm a $100M deal as a FA.

    billybucks 8 hours 46 sec ago view
  • I'll root for the uniform and imagine it's left-handed Rod Beck or Randy Myers out there I suppose.

    Rob G. 8 hours 24 min ago view
  • Amen to this. I guess it's gonna happen and I'm gonna have to suck it up but I really despise domestic abusers with every bone in my body and cannot stand them on any team I root for.

    johann 8 hours 32 min ago view
  • I just prefer they don't  acquire players that choke their wives/girlfriends.

    Rob G. 8 hours 36 min ago view
  • So you'd rather go with Blown Save guy, when you can trade a prospect who is blocked for one piece that could get you over the top to the Big Dance? That is pretty old thinking. This is not a move that they cannot recover from if it goes south. But the upside is potentially historic.

    The E-Man 8 hours 45 min ago view
  • I'd prefer it not happen too.

    Rob G. 9 hours 12 min ago view
  • it's a hell of a blockbuster, but it's for a guy who pitches 1/3rd of a season at an extreme premium considering the guy being traded and if the early extension $$$ rumors are true.

    it's one of those things that is bringing a guy at the top his game, but something is nagging me that this trade piece could have been put to better use.

    a huge part of me is all "hell yeah, top of the line producer"...another part of me is "hmm, that for that?"

    crunch 9 hours 16 min ago view
  • Still don't want. Kinda hope they can't work out the extension.

    Charlie 9 hours 27 min ago view
  • obviously not, and I'm sure they did their homework...just hope they have some better answers than the Yankees

    Rob G. 9 hours 27 min ago view
  • Chapman 12+ Career WAR. Currently 4.7:1 k-BB. With Rondon/Chapman/Strop/Nathan/Montgomery/Wood...Its the best pen I can recall other than Sutter or Lee Smith handling things themselves.

    Its gonna suck if he gets injured, and it appears he's not the greatest of characters.

    But, he'll have another Cuban to hang out with on the team.

    The E-Man 9 hours 49 min ago view