Miller Time

The much anticipated, season saving return of Wade Miller is tonight. Thanks for joining the club in such a timely fashion. Be sure to pitch really well so you can show off for your future employeer. Guzman once again pitched poorly last night, falling behind in the count and then laying a meatball right down the middle of the plate to avoid the walk. Sort of the anti-Marmol, but same cruddy result. Since the Cubs are playing for nothing and Guzman probably has the most talent in the Cubs farm system, you stick with him through the rest of the year and hope he can turn a corner sooner rather than later. Go Cubs! GAME ONE HUNDRED-FORTY-TWO IN-GAME DISCUSSION THREAD [PARACHAT] CHICAGO CUBS (56-85, (Draft) 2nd, 3.5 GB) AT ATLANTA BRAVES (67-73, (WC) 6th, 7 GB) Turner Field, 6:05 pm CDT Weather: Partly Cloudy, 80 degrees, Wind from L to R @ 7 mph TV: CSN, DirecTV 737 Radio: WGN, XM 184
Chuck James, LHP 8-3, 3.65 ERA, 88.2 IP 60 K, 34 BB, 14 HR 232/311/423 againstWade Miller, RHP (Guess the Year) 15-4, 3.28 ERA, 164.2 IP 144 K, 62 BB, 14 HR 249/322/387 against

*Juan Pierre, CF Ryan Theriot, 2B Aramis Ramirez, 3B Derrek Lee, 1B Matt Murton, LF *Jacque Jones, RF Henry Blanco, C Ronny Cedeno, SS Wade Miller, P Marcus Giles, 2B Willy Aybar, 3B *Adam LaRoche, 1B Andruw Jones, CF *Brian McCann, C Jeff Francoeur, RF *Ryan Langerhans, LF Tony Pena Jr., SS *Chuck James, P

Cubs vs. James: No Cubs with more than 10 Ab's Braves vs. Miller: Edgar Renteria: 0-22, 000/185/000 Chipper Jones: 7-16, 438/500/813 Andruw Jones: 4-15, 267/333/333
I know Renteria has had his problems with Miller but how long ago did all that happen?


Wade Miller?

Is it June already?

haha #1.

Wow, I am really excited about this game... I might even renew my subscription to the Tribune... Thank you Jim Hendry for making this a memorable year.... Thank you Dusty Bake for proving me right once again that you are not the right man for the job...

And thank you Wade Miller for joining the team in september... I hope this years salary has allowed you to get that highly anticipated anchor for your yacht....

And thank you everyone for joining me on this wondeful night in September to celebrate what being a Cubs fan is all about...

More like, thank you Wade Miller for helping to be an anchor dragging the team down tonight...

Another short start by the Cubs staff....pathetic.

cubs are 30 games under .500




The Tribune is greasing the Brenly for manager angle.

I did like this quote...

At the same time, when things turned bad in Arizona in 2004, Brenly said he went back to the basics.

"We had spring training workouts just about every day," he said. "We would be out on the field at 1 in the afternoon, and one day we'd get all the outfielders out there and play the angles off the walls, the next day we'd come out and work on bunt defense, we'd do cutoffs.

"You have to do that. You can't assume just by being around the ballpark, they're going to figure it out on their own. A lot of these guys reached this level based on their talent alone, more so now than ever in the history of the game. A lot of the time, they don't know how to play the game. They know how to swing a bat, they know how to throw a ball, but they don't know what base to throw to in certain situations or where to hit the ball in certain situations."

I think Brenly is too close to the style of Baker, but if he can carry that kind of attitude over, I don't know. That line of thinking is drastically different from Baker who says he has no time to teach at the ML level, that players need to be ready before they get to him.

Check out the article. There are also some other interesting quotes.

"And thank you Wade Miller for joining the team in september... I hope this years salary has allowed you to get that highly anticipated anchor for your yacht...."

First Miller's not getting paid very much, and has yet to get his first big contract so I doubt he's floating around on a yacht. Besides, he can borrow MacFail's yacht if he needs to. I read somewhere the other day that MacPhail has only shown up to 10-12 Cubs games this season so if there is any doubt his dedication to this team, and his place within the franchise is greatly exaggerated. He may as well join the marketing dept since that's what he's mainly doing anyway.

John Brattain at the Hardball Times assessing LAD's playoff chances: "Toss in an eastern swing through New York and Chicago and finishing the season in Colorado and San Francisco, and youíve got a recipe for a meltdown."

I assume that by referring to the trip through Chicago as a hardship for the Dodgers, he means simply that the rigors of travel might wear them out. Or maybe he envisions Garciaparra stumbling over a flight attendant's rolling suitcase at O'Hare, causing every bone in his body to shatter. Surely, though, he cannot mean that the actual Cubs pose some sort of threat.

Well, I'm being harsh. The Cubs could harm the Dodgers by:

1. putting spoiled meat in the clubhouse deli spread
2. locking Roberto Novoa in the Dodgers' locker room with a sign on his back reading "no takebacks"
3. hiring Grady Little back and...oh, wait, no
4. losing every game, making the Dodgers overconfident

This is proving to be an amazing year:

- The Cubs have to win seven of the 20 remaining games to avoid 100 losses. I strongly doubt that that's going to happen. Think about it: $100 million. 100 losses.

- Unless a Cubs starter goes the distance in the next 20 games, this will be the first time in the modern era - the first time since 1900 - that a team will have gone an entire season without a complete game. Think about it: No complete games. Not even one. Amazing.

Well done, Andy, Jim, Dusty! The towel boys probably could have done a better job than you genuises - but never mind, there's always next year.

You make me so very proud to be a Cubs fan.

We gained a game on EVERYONE last night!
Only 2.5 games behind the Royals now.
Here's our battle cry for the game today: We're #2!
We CAN do this.

KC 54 89 -
CHC 56 86 2.5
TB 57 85 3.5
PIT 58 85 4

The Boise Hawks lost to Salem 2-1 on an 11th inning, two out, two strike wild pitch with men on 2nd and 3rd.

Who's their pitching coach, Ryan Dempster?

The Hawks are down 2-1 in a best of 5 series.
Do or die for them from now on...Jake Renshaw pitches tonight.

In a previous thread, someone asked why Dusty Baker was receiving so much criticism when so much of the blame for this season rests on Jim
Hendry's shoulders. I responded that I agreed that Hendry deserved the lion's share of the blame for this lousy season, but that Dusty was an easy target since he was out in front of the media and the fans every day. While I think this is true, I think there's more to it than that.

Dusty joined the Cubs in 2003 with the attitude "Why not us?" It was refreshing to have a manager who snubbed his nose at the losing history of the franchise and focused instead on winning now. He promptly took the team to the post season and came very close to getting in to the WS.

In 2004 all the good feelings built up in 2003 were lost. With arguably a better team, Dusty allowed personality clashes and off field issues to ruin the season. I know some will disagree about Dusty's culpability, but IMO, it is the managers job to keep the clubhouse on an even keel and to difuse any controversies. Dusty didn't do that and the team imploded down the stretch.

In 2005 and 2006, Hendry didn't give Dusty the most talented teams, but the truth is that Dusty didn't do much with what he was given. He made excuses for the team's bad performance and tried to divert attention by talking about the racist hate mail he gets from Cubs fans. This, coupled with the odd in-game decisions he makes has turned many fans against him.

Truth is, no one could have made a winner out of the 2006 Cubs. They were doomed from the beginning. But Dusty did nothing to make the team better. A good manager can help his team overcome obstacles and can create a winning attitude, even in the midst of adversity. Dusty not only didn't improve the situation, he actually helped to make it worse.

At the moment, Dusty has a 312 - 316 W-L record with the Cubs. Dusty does a fine job when he has his "horses," but he seems befuddled whenever the going gets tough. What I and a lot of Cubs fans thought we were getting in 2003 with Dusty was one of the premiere managers in all of baseball. What we ended up with was a run-of-the-mill manager with an overrated reputation.

It's true that Dusty gets more criticism than he deserves for this season, but I think the frustration is with the body of his work in Chicago, not just with the 2006 season. As fans, we thought Dusty was going to bring something to the table that was going to turn the fortunes of the franchise around and turn the team from lovable losers into winners. Instead, he helped to turn the lovable losers into just losers.

hi friends, wanted to give you all a heads up. a major threshold for the cub organization has just been eclipsed. andy macphail's first full season with the team was 1995. through last night's game, macphail is 915-1001. 1000 losses!!

I'm looking at the box score from yesterday...

Miller 3.0 12.00
Ryu 2.2 10.29
Walrond 0.1 14.29...

Horay for double-digit ERAs... lol

If anyone still cares...


v. Lance Cormier... a ground ball pitcher. He's bounced around between minors & majors this year, has a mediocre fastball, good changeup, curve.

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  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 47 min 4 sec ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 47 min 36 sec ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 1 hour 11 min ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 1 hour 15 min ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 2 hours 44 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 2 hours 52 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 3 hours 4 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 3 hours 6 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 3 hours 28 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 3 hours 28 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 3 hours 37 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 57 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 4 hours 28 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 4 hours 31 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 34 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 55 min ago view