Well That Was a Shame

Rich Hill looked like he had some dominating stuff yesterday, striking out 10 batters in 5 innings, but he also got touched for three homers and Mother Nature took care of the rest, washing out the game before the offense could get Hill off the hook. Oh well, they all can't be great. Today Z hits the mound, on some sort of personal quest to try and win the Cy Young. A fool's quest it seems. He's 5th in the NL in Win Shares among starting pitchers, 7th by VORP, 5th in ERA and he's dropped to 4th in K's because of his time missed. He is 2nd in wins and only one win shy of being tied for the league, but that's because for whatever reason the Cubs offense decides to perform when he pitches (6th best run support in the league). Of course, some of that could be because of Z's presence in the lineup itself. Eight lousy games left! GAME ONE HUNDRED-FIFTY-FIVE IN-GAME DISCUSSION THREAD [PARACHAT] CHICAGO CUBS (62-92 (Draft) 3rd - 3.5 GB) AT CINCINNATI REDS (75-78 (Div) 2nd - 5.5 GB; (WC) 3rd - 5.5 GB) The Great American Home Run Park, 6:10 pm CDT Weather: TV: WGN Radio: WGN, XM 186
Kyle Lohse, RHP (NL Only) 2-4, 4.33 ERA, 54 IP 43 K, 15 BB, 5 HR 288/335/418 againstCarlos Zambrano, RHP 15-6, 3.38 ERA, 200 IP 194 K, 108 BB, 19 HR 210/318/356 against

*Juan Pierre, CF Ryan Theriot, 2B Aramis Ramirez, 3B Matt Murton, LF #Angel Pagan, RF John Mabry, 1B Henry Blanco, C Ronny Cedeno, SS #Carlos Zambrano, P *Dewayne Wise, CF *Scott Hatteberg, 1B Edwin Encarnacion, 3B Adam Dunn, LF #Javier Valentin, C *Todd Hollandsworth, RF Brandon Phillips, SS #Ray Olmedo, 2B Kyle Lohse, P

Cubs vs. Lohse: No Cubs with more than 10 AB'sReds vs. Zambrano: Adam Dunn: 7-34, 206/364/559, 10 K, 9 BB, 4 HR Jason LaRue: 4-24, 167/231/208, 11 K, 0 BB Royce Clayton: 4-19, 211/250/368 Rich Aurilia: 4-14, 286/375/286 Scott Hatteberg: 4-13, 308/526/615, 2 K, 6 BB, 1 HR Edwin Encarnacion: 3-10, 300/417/600, 1 HR
I assume something is wrong with Jacque Jones. What the hell is wrong with Dusty to start Mabry over Moore?

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Why don't Pitching Coaches make good Managers? It seems to me guys like Dave Duncan of the Cardinals and the former picching coach of the Atlanta Braves (?) were without peer. Why can't someone like Dave Duncan be a manager on say a young pitching staff like the Cubs. I mean if he can work magic as he has for the Cardinals why cant he do it for the Cubs.

Why can't Quaid(sp?) step up? The kids have all performed for him? Also WHY ISN'T MOORE playing instead of Mabry????You gotta love Dusty's line-up management.

scooterÆ

BTW Manny: you are right about my previous post.

Why can't Quaid(sp?) step up? The kids have all performed for him? Also WHY ISN'T MOORE playing instead of Mabry????You gotta love Dusty's line-up management.

scooterÆ

BTW Manny: you are right about my previous post.

J. Jones wife gave birth to a child. He'll join the team on Monday.

This is depressing from the Paul Sullivan article about whether Ramirez is staying or going...

Scott Moore is the only third-base prospect in the system who could step in, meaning the Cubs likely would have to sign or trade for a replacement.

Moore is hitting .318 in 22 at-bats and hasn't played enough to get a fair evaluation.

"He hasn't had enough at-bats yet, plus the league doesn't know him yet," Baker said. "He did hit .275 at Double A. I've always liked what I've seen of him, but there's more to this game than just hitting. There's baserunning, fielding, judgment plays. Ö I like what I've seen, big-time. Is he ready to be here today? I don't know that. You'd like to see a guy have more success in the minor leagues."

I don't know, when would be a good time to get him more AB's? We are 29 games under .500, Lee is out again, and no one knows if Ramirez is staying or going. Gee wouldn't it be nice to find out what Scott Moore could do with the bat playing everday the rest of the season? Apparently looking towards the future with this franchise is playing Blanco and Mabry at 1b instead.

A franchise with a clue would be playing Moore at 1b not playing musical chairs between a veteran catcher who has barely played the position and a pinch hitter hitting near .200.

Meanwhile, Arizona left fielder Luis Gonzalez told a suburban Phoenix paper the Cubs and White Sox would be two teams he would be interested in signing with this winter

Thanks Gonzo, but no thanks. Your productive years are over.

So Bonds hit his 26th HR this year tonight. That HR broke Hank Aaron's NL record for most HR's. Bonds is at 734 now with 21 left to tie Aaron. As long as he stays healthy and is playing baseball next year, it appears he will break the record. Should be an interesting offseason to see what he does.

*Should be an interesting offseason to see what he [Bonds] does.*

He probably won't hit many home runs in the offseason, and if he does, they won't count toward his major league totals.

*Luis Gonzalez told a suburban Phoenix paper the Cubs and White Sox would be two teams he would be interested in signing with this winter*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Right. Only if they go back to letting everyone do roids scot-free with no testing.

*J. Jones wife gave birth to A child.*

Hopefully HIS child...otherwise he'd look a bit stupid taking the time off to go and hang out.

*Why don't Pitching Coaches make good Managers?*

Roger Craig was pretty successful, but I'm guessing that players probably get sick of stupid advice like "Hey, don't throw this guy a fastball" or "Hey, just throw strikes", extrapolated into bigger, grander strategic advice like "Hey, just win some games" or "Hey, just score more runs than the other team on a consistant basis".

Couple notes:

Ramirez on coming back with the Cubs: "I don't know yet," Ramirez said. "We've still got eight games left, and we've got to play through and see what happens. I don't know what's going to happen. This is business, and you never know what can happen," Ramirez said. "I can't predict what's going to happen. I don't know what the front office is thinking." -Cubs.com

Hendry on Baker:
"It's the same as I told everyone in July, and that's that I'll decide what's in the interest of the organization in the first week after the season," Hendry said. "That hasn't changed. I'll do what I feel is in the best interest of the organization, and that obviously encompasses a lot of things and there's no need to get more specific than that," Hendry said. "You do what's in the best interests of the Chicago Cubs and not what's in the best interest of any individual, including myself." -Cubs.com

When asked if he has made decision on Baker yet:
"Not necessarily," Hendry said. -Cubs.com

You have to figure Dusty won't be coming back, but I wonder how that figures in to guys like Aramis. I know Dusty is a player's manager and they all appear to like him; That's what they're supposed to do and say. Supposing that it's genuine, would Aramis be more inclined to return to Chicago if Dusty stayed?

Ryno:
"Supposing that it's genuine, would Aramis be more inclined to return to Chicago if Dusty stayed?"

I am sure it is genuine, but when it comes down to it, if Hendry throws the right money at him, ARAM will resign. If Hendry doesn't offer him an average of at least $13 million per over 4-5 years, ARAM will test FA. I am sure both ARAM and Pierre would want Baker back, but for the right amount of money I am sure they would play for anyone (ask Furcal).

NO, that was uncalled for. Not funny.

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  • video of Maddon.

    http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0561343809737202839-4

    always nice that he actually tries to honestly answer questions. Does mention that he wanted to give Zastr? a chance in a meaningful spot rather than a mop-up role.

    Rob G. 13 hours 45 min ago view
  • from Muskat:

    #Cubs Maddon: "I'm not going to make up an excuse for why I did what I did. It has nothing to do with lack of confidence" ... "It was the right thing to do today based on what I saw, what their lineup looked like and Rob Z.'s availability." #Cubs

    Rob G. 13 hours 50 min ago view
  • http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0561339391889382475-4

    Hammel not particularly understanding of getting pulled out...as he should. Be curious what Maddon had to say. All I can think of is is keeping arms fresh and maybe wanting to see if Zastr? is worth considering for the playoffs and how he'd do against the Dodgers.

    Rob G. 13 hours 55 min ago view
  • great defense

    Heyward, Russell, Baez, Bryant, Ross in particular...although Bryant's a bit hard to judge with all the positions.

    Fowler and Rizzo in the top half of the NL for their positions as well (per fangraphs)...Zobrist right at the halfway cutoff for 2b in the NL.

    I'm sure some luck is involved too, but the Cubs and Maddon knew what they were doing.

    Rob G. 14 hours 7 min ago view
  • If all the starters have FIP > ERA, is that luck or good defense?

    Craig A. 14 hours 18 min ago view
  • #Cubs plummet to 19-5 in August.

    Fun with FIP

    • J. Hammel   3.07 ERA/4.27 FIP (3.68 FIP last year)
    • J. Arrieta     2.62 ERA/3.05 FIP (2.35 FIP last year)
    • J. Lester     2.81 ERA/3.67 FIP (2.92 FIP last year)
    • K. Hendricks  2.19 ERA/3.37 FIP (3.36 FIP last year)
    • J. Lackey     3.41 ERA/3.72 FIP (3.57 FIP last year with Cards)
    Rob G. 14 hours 43 min ago view
  • zastyryzryzryzny put in 3.2ip 1h 0bb 3k

    he's great when his control is "on"...problem is it's rarely "on" consistently. he could vault up the cubs prospect list if he ever gets better with that aspect of his game.

    crunch 15 hours 24 min ago view
  • JD's take was just trying to get in a lefty to better deal with mostly lefty Dodgers lineup.

    My second thought was what you came up with. My first thought was he was trying to light a fire under Hammel.

    Jackstraw 16 hours 36 min ago view
  • Maybe he was trying to spare him another brutal road start? NY, Colorado...

    billybucks 16 hours 53 min ago view
  • joe got a pitcher up for hammel at nearly the 1st sign of trouble in the 3rd...pulled after 2.1

    not injured and though it wasn't his day so far he wasn't looking like a pure disaster.

    really short leash on him. zastryznzryzryny in.

    crunch 16 hours 57 min ago view
  • Russell and Soler can attest that Urias has a pretty good curve/slider - two big strikeouts looking to get out of that jam in the first.

    Eric S 17 hours 42 min ago view
  • Classic Scully - great stuff.

    Thank God we'll still have Hawk next season. (cricket cricket cricket)

    Eric S 22 hours 32 min ago view
  • Here's Scully's call on Bryant's 10th-inning homer:

    "And it's a long fly ball, a mean fly ball, and a gone fly ball."

    VirginiaPhil 23 hours 46 min ago view
  • When the Cubs were the old, hundred-year Cubs, one bad hop did not undo their opponents.

    VirginiaPhil 23 hours 50 min ago view
  • If only he was clutcher. More clutcher.

    Jackstraw 1 day 1 hour ago view
  • cubs win...bryant with 7HR in his last 8 games.

    crunch 1 day 8 hours ago view