You Have to Laugh…Unless You’re Kerry Wood

It looks like poor Kerry Wood has gone and done it again, another year, another arm injury. The details have yet to come out but something didn't go right after yesterday's outing and it could just be a re-aggravation of the triceps strain from earlier in spring training or possibly a brand spanking new one to add to the trophy case. Once the Cubs P.R.nt figures out how to spin this one finish diagnosing the injury, Wood will likely be put on the disabled list (once again) and it looks like Angel Guzman will travel East with the team come Opening Day. UPDATE: Although an exam has yet to be performed or at least the results yet to be reported, word is that it was the shoulder causing him problems and Wood has been shut down until further notice.

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That can't be right!!

What were the odds of both Wood AND Prior being hurt/ineffective?? I mean...wait..

Oh...

Rob G-

Did you get my email yesterday with attachment?

....

seriously, i think that's all i have to say about that.

Got my first chance to see the Cubs on TV just yesterday.

I threw up a little......in my mouth.......when I saw Wood start rubbing his right forearm and had a grimace on his face. I was kind of dozing, but one article I read said it was when Howie Kendrick was at the plate.

Even the wife said at that point, "He's done isn't he?"

I'm off the Woody Kool-Aid and on to Ted Lilly. Dude looked sharp!!!!!!

Joey

Crunch---very nice..I laughed my ass at #''s 3 & 4.

See, I'm not ALWAYS a jerk.

When does the pitching coach take some responsibility for the constant injuries to Prior and Wood? it seems it was Rothchild's idea to change wood's mechanics in the first place so he wouldn't have these injuries.

also, at one point Prior had "the best mechanics ever"

apparently we shouldn't have fired Oscar way back in the day...

When you strike out 20 guys and throw 99, it's REALLY hard to tell a guy to in there and start messing around with the way he throws. And he probably won't listen to you anyway.

Prior does have very good mechanics. We talked about this a couple days ago. But it's not your mechanics fault 100% of the time when you get hurt. Pitchers with great mechanics get hurt, too.

who cares...!? we have a solid bullpen even without woody...

He reminds me one of those internet ads for a free laptop or ipod by just answering a simple survey, which always turns out to be a endless circle of surveys, jumping through hoops, and scams.

It wouldn't bother me 2 bits if he never pitched in a Cubs uniform again.... and he can take Prior, Bartman, and whoever else is left of 2003 and hit the highroad...

Sure looks like the door is wide open for GUZMAN. It's about time he walked through and slammed it.

When does the pitching coach take some responsibility for the constant injuries to Prior and Wood?

What does Rothschild do, anyway? Did he even notice that Guzman had moved over to the left on the rubber on a "tip"(?) from Greg Maddux? The first thing Piniella did was move him over to the right side---the side Guzman said he used to pitch from.

I feel bad for the guy... he's obviously put a lot of work into getting back on the mound. The business side of me, though, says it doesn't really matter if he's on the roster. He wasn't going to be an 'impact' player anyways.

Dusty Baylor:

What were the odds of both Wood AND Prior being hurt/ineffective?? I mean…wait..

Wait... I've been away a couple days, Prior is injured? Last I heard he was healthy, just throwing soft and inaccurate. I don't see anything on my news feeds about it.

All right--who had March 26th in the KW DL pool?

i wouldnt be surprised to see a l.walrond or similar in the pen over guzman cuz if lou is gonna go with a 5-man rotation over a 4-man and skipping 2-#5-starts then its not really necessary to have a strong arm as much as a warm body down there.

guz could stay starter-ready early in case of injury to a "real" starter coming early. i feel its more important to keep guys just getting stretched out at least warm to throwing 100 pitches before you start throwing him off his 5-day schedule.

So the Cubs are going with a 12 man pitching staff? Is this the staff?

Z
Lilly
Marquis
Hill
Miller

Guz
Cotts
Wuertz
Ohman
Eyre
Howry
Dempster

I'm not ususally a grammar nazi, but it's "You're," not "Your." p.s. Can we get Aardsma back?

ROB: Well, guess I'm not the only one... ;->

cnn international just did a story on the gyroball...

without getting into if it's "real" as stated or if its just a new screwball meets curve pitch...it sure as hell looks like it stresses the elbow and the upper arm muscles.

something tells me it's going to be a little more serious than a tricep injury....it very well might be rotator cuff related. Remember Wood was attempting to build up the muscles around the tear in his cuff in order to avoid surgery that would put him out for 1-2 years. Doesn't sound good.

The first thing Piniella did was move him over to the right side—the side Guzman said he used to pitch from.

I think Rotschild did the moving, Piniella just put his face in front of a camera to let everyone know about it. Considering Piniella already stated numerous times he knows nothing about nothing when it comes to pitching other than results, I'd be surprised if he had much say on how that went down.

thanks for the grammar catch, I literally put that up in 3 minutes before I left for my morning commute.

Dice-K doesn't even throw the gyroball....

A healthy Kerry Wood would be an impact player, unless you think that F-Rod and Mariano Rivera weren't impact players when they were setting up for WS winning clubs.

Unfortunately, we don't have a healthy or even a 95% Kerry Wood. It's a pity, he seems to have done everything he could to get healthy and back pitching for the Cubs.

If you really want a wonder pitch, someone should try to replicate the pitch Wood threw to strike out Guitterez in the 7th or 8th to his 20 K game. That pitch was sick.

It was sad yesterday to see Kerry Wood struggle. The guy has been busting his ass to get right and he can't seam to shake the arm problems. It was exciting to see him warming up, coming in the game in the late innings, but it was evident that he wasn't right.
Fitness wise, the guy is as slim and fit as he has ever been. It is unfortunate that such a guy with promise has broken down, but so is life. When he was young and dumb, some coach in little league, summer league, pick up game, high school, minor, or Majors threw him so much that he is feeling the effects. As a coach, you want to win every game and as a competitor you want the ball. It has caught up to us as Cubs Fans and most importantly it has caught up to Kerry. I'll never forget what he gave us....
We shouldn't be pissed that a guy can't get it done now, we should be happy that he gave us what he did.

Neifi made the Tigers via Rotoworld...

The Real Neal-

The pitch was called the "reckless abandon for the health of my arm" curve.

I think Rotschild did the moving, Piniella just put his face in front of a camera to let everyone know about it. Considering Piniella already stated numerous times he knows nothing about nothing when it comes to pitching other than results, I’d be surprised if he had much say on how that went down.

Well, it's interesting that you think that Lou Piniella is liar, Rob G. NO ONE, and certainly not me, is claiming Larry Rothschild wasn't there at the side session where Piniella took a look at Guzman's delivery. Rothschild is Piniella's pitching coach. Of course he was there. But then Rothschild was the pitching coach last year when Guzman made the change. Why didn't he do something about it then?

But back to Lou. I think he was pretty clear about what happened,

Piniella didn't look at film of Guzman to suggest the switch. He looked at him as a hitter would.

"From hitting in the big leagues for a long time, I wanted to see why, with really, really, really good stuff, people don't swing and miss as much," Piniella said. "I think we picked up on something.

It's really a stretch to think that Rothschild was the one who looked at Guzman as a hitter would, not Piniella.

I actually think it was a fastball. But regardless, if he can teach it to some of the Les Walrunds of the world, I am sure they would take 3-4 years of big league success at the risk of TJ surgery.

Kerry Wood pitched the best game I've ever seen and brought life to a franchise that was moribund at the time. If he's hurt every year for the next decade, I still want to see the Cubs resign him and pay him to try. He may never come back and pitch a healthy full season again, but I never want to see him in another uniform. Totally irrational? Sure.

"I am sure they would take 3-4 years of big league success at the risk of TJ surgery. "

Which would be about 1-2 more successful years then Wood had.

alright fine, my bad....go Piniella!!!! Let's hope it works....

Farewell, Kerry.

no one wants to blame pinella for ruining wood for caving in to his demands with pinella promising him more work?

=p

sigh...managers...cuz i mean, it surely cant be wood's issue or fault.

Jacos,

"Which would be about 1-2 more successful years then Wood had. "

Good point, except that the AAA players I am referencing are a lot closer to the majors than the 16 year old Kerry Wood was when he started throwing like that.

I know you hate the sabr-stuff but here it is.

20-16 = 4

kerry wood was being "abused" in highschool...if you wanna pick fights about who/what/etc ruined wood you gotta trace his problems back further than the cubs.

he's a genetic mess...if its not the elbow its the shoulder, if its not the shoulder its a triceps, if its not the triceps its the shoulder again...blah blah blah.

i mean damn...he's adapted, he's worked...it seems he wants to play. i dunno if his body will let him.

Cubs.com is reporting the "discomfort" is in his shoulder this time. Given the history, I'd say the odds are slim that he'll contribute this year.

2nd Police date added for July 6th....

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/press_releas...

Brady Clark for Elmer Dessens trade went down...

"kerry wood was being “abused” in highschool…if you wanna pick fights about who/what/etc ruined wood you gotta trace his problems back further than the cubs."

I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is nothing the Cubs could have done to prevent Wood's injuries other than to never let him throw. I would bet anything that all of the damage had been done to his arm before he signed a professional contract. I will also bet that he was throwing his 'slurve' pitch since he was 11 years old.

Wow that is really amazing, Chad! Kerry Wood not only struck on 20 batters in a game, he did it with a ulnar collateral ligament and led the NL in strikeouts with a tear in his rotator cuff. Pretty astounding!

Needless to say, I would take that bet.

Wow that is really amazing, Chad! Kerry Wood not only struck on 20 batters in a game, he did it with a severly torn ulnar collateral ligament and led the NL in strikeouts with a tear in his rotator cuff. Pretty astounding!

Needless to say, I would take that bet.

severly torn UCL that should have read...

Well, if you must. Let me clarify. The damage that was done to his arm was by, in my non-medical opinion, the overall weakening of his joints and ligaments. At a very young age the stress that he was putting on his body was too great for it. It never formed properly and made those parts very fragile. The actual tearing came as a pro but the reason that it tore was set years before.

He was going to have a bad arm no matter what.

I was afraid this would happen as soon as he declared himself ready for the season. I had a bad feeling...Like the day Corey Patterson announced to the media he was ready to be the lead-off man.

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  • In all seriousness the Cubs have the fewest amount of games played in the NL which means they're gonna be facing quite the grind later on including 24 games in a row at the end of June and beginning of July so I hope he does get a few days off.

    johann 58 min 58 sec ago view
  • Meh. He only got one hit today. Maybe give him a rest?

    Old and Blue 1 hour 34 min ago view
  • 34-14...awww yeah.

    crunch 2 hours 31 min ago view
  • Good thing the Cubs have five left-handed batters in the lineup. Velasquez is just tearing thru the righties [edit - doesn't seem to faze Bryant!]

    Eric S 3 hours 52 min ago view
  • ben zobrist gets to ride up front tonight cause he's a good guy at sports.

    cubs with a 5 run lead and a lackey shutout through 3ip \m/

    crunch 4 hours 26 min ago view
  • HAGSAG: I have not seen Joe Nathan out on the field, but he is supposedly at the UAPC. 

    Arizona Phil 7 hours 22 min ago view
  • ERIC S: Best outing I've ever seen from Manny Rondon, and I've seen most of his outings since the Cubs got him from the Angels. 

    M. Rondon is competing with six others (Dylan Cease, Bryan Hudson, Jose Paulino, Pedro Silverio, Jesus Castillo, and Erling Moreno) for a starting slot at Eugene, and (as you can probably tell from the EXST box scores)  the competition has gotten fierce over the last couple of weeks, With the exception of Moreno, the Eugene SP candidates have upped their game lately, and M. Rondon's outing yesterday was especially impressive/dominating. 

    Arizona Phil 7 hours 24 min ago view
  • E-MAN: Pierce Johnsion was mixing a 92-94 MPH fastball with a plus-change-up AND curve, and he threw strike-after-strike-after-strike with all three of his pitches. I believe that was the best command and pitch-efficiency I've ever seen from Johnson, who often pitches from behind in the count and issues too many walks.  

    Of course now he has to avoid a recurrence of the lat strain (whch he has had previously in his career) as well as all of the other miscellaneous physical problems he's had over the last three years (hamstring, quad, back, etc).  

    Arizona Phil 7 hours 34 min ago view
  • PHIL: Any movement on P. Johnsons pitches? What was his "out" pitch? I know he was working on a 4th pitch, so wondering what he is looking like these days. Thanks.

    The E-Man 8 hours 17 min ago view
  • AZ Phil, has Nathan showed up in Mesa yet? Thanks.

    Hagsag 13 hours 2 min ago view
  • Eickhoff looks like a good young pitcher. Lets steal him!

    Hagsag 13 hours 3 min ago view
  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 22 hours 45 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 1 day 1 hour ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 1 day 1 hour ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 1 day 2 hours ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 1 day 2 hours ago view