Game 27 Thread / Nationals @ Cubs (1 of 3)

Game Chat Jason Bergmann vs. Carlos Zambrano Lineups:
Lopez SS Soriano LF
Belliard 2B Floyd RF
Zimmerman 3B Lee 1B
Church CF Ramirez 3B
Kearns RF Jones CF
td>Young 1B Barrett C Schneider C Derosa 2B Casto LF Izturis SS Bergmann P Zambrano P


izzy must go away.

So now what is the excuse as to why Izzy is playing over Theriot???

Based on what we've seen I agree that Izzy must go away. But what if he starts coming together? Then we've really got something. As long as he doesn't kill the Cubs against these lesser opponents, I am not against giving him a last chance.

I don't care what happens if we keep winning. Lou can play himself at short if he wants to.

the excuse? probably cuz he can field...

my main concern with him has nothing to do with his glove/range, but his 2 throwing errors in 2 days. without an accurate arm he's late inning D replacement. he's gotta have the complete D package to be a guy worth keeping as a starter with the groundball guys unless his bat comes around.

that said, theriot's more of a part-time SS than a full-time SS because he's adequate at best. maybe he's just shaking off the rust, though. he was never automatic, but he's not a chump there.

the race between the posibilities of theriot's improving D vs. izturis's improvement of his arm accuracy and/or bat should be interesting.

last i checked cedeno was a decent pinch runner. =p

not sure if you guys saw this, but Baseball Reference has this wonderful batting lineup page, tells you the lineup each game and most common lineups, etc.

Theriot leading the race for the #2 spot for our preseason contest.

as for izturis, I dunno. Maybe with Z and Marquis and their groundball tendencies, Lou's going for D.

"last i checked cedeno was a decent pinch runner. =p"

Well decent pinch runners should a. know to look back at the plate to see if a player draws a BB, b. should not overslide a base and then get tagged, c. should not get picked off at 3rd.

The again, Theriot has a penchant for getting thrown out at 3rd, too.

I am totally serious about this, but why not bat Z ahead of TURD?

Really? Not kidding.

Z is a switch hitter and has more pop.

It's stupid, but I can also see Z being more comfortable with another Latin player (particularly a Venezuelan) in the infield.

i was just trying to screw around with cedeno's role on the team...didnt really research it or have great knowledge of it.


I got it!

There must be scouts in Wrigley to look at The TURD!


Floyd at 2 again? I guess I'd rather see Theriot (obviously) or DeRosa (in today's lineup) at that spot.

No Murt, No Riot - I guess the idea today is to put the ball in play and take advantage of Washington's atrocious D. I thought that was why they got Langerhans, but he's nowhere to be seen today.

Go Cubbies!

First time Barrett's caught Z in a few starts. Let's hope things go better this time than last. If not, we may need to look at Blanco becoming Z's personal catcher.

Btw, I'm guessing there's still no word on the contract situation. Looks like Z will be a free agent after all?

It doesn't make sense to me that not having Riot or Murt in the lineup signifies that you're trying to take advantage of Washington's subpar defense. They are two of the Cubs' better contact hitters, and Theriot would really add some pressure on the defense with his speed...

I guess I was just citing their above-average ability (for Cubs) to take a walk, that's all. I wasn't totally serious.

If we can go back in time and get the Izturis from 2004, then great!!

I am all for him in the lineup then...if not, I'll take my chances with "The Riot"

What about weather? Is there gonna be a game?

Yeah, I wondered if you were serious.
Small ball seems to me to be the way to win today... The lineup doesn't seem to mirror that.

Eh, weather is just fine down in the Loop. Cloudy but no rain.

Wind is blowing in.

maybe Dusty phoned in this lineup? I hear he does a terrific Lou impersonation. least we can blame Barrett today.

I think it is mandated in Baseball's unspoken code that a competent manager cannot start Blanco and Izturis in the same lineup. I could fracture the atmosphere with a black-hole vortex of suck.

cubster, We can blame Barrett everyday. I see a blame Murton comming on as well.

#21 You can blame Barrett anytime he's on the 25-man roster, and for 6 mos. after he's off it.

ugh, Z

so does that mean we're blaming barrett for this?

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO. he's our #4 starter.

Boo Carlos, you nutjob. Get your head in the game.

WOO Z!!!

Blanco out with a herniated disc fwiw.

whoever the new writer(s) are at Rotoworld, they make lots of mistakes. Called Carlos Victor Zambrano, bunch of other ones the last week or so.

So when are they going to tell us about Z's injury?

nice catch by JJ

carlos killing all the positive momentum from the road trip. thanks bud!

Let's face it, Zambrano is a very GOOD pitcher, but not Elite.

He should be in the $12M range per year, ....which is far from the $15-17M range.

That being said, the cubs will have dificulties signing him now that the discussed numbers have been in the $15M plus range to date.

I would not suggest signing him for the $15M ballpark. ouch, i'd hate to lose him though.

Barrett needs to stop calling the gopher pitch!!!

Everything has been up by Z so far. To be fair, the Nats have a great offense


oh that's right, worst in baseball right now.

Something just isn't right with him. I'm not sure if he needs an MRI or a therapist, but he needs to get himself straightened out.


Is the contract talk bothering him?

The guy is very tempermental.

35 pitches, 4 runs in the 1st inning. sad face

Hey...when did the Cubs trade for Victor Zambrano?

I'm suprised this guy is not with the Cubs-;_ylt=Aq0afrD...

They signed Like Hagerty instead...

Luke Hagerty...

Cotts up in the pen

Nice. Way to rape the pen, Z.

nice play by Derosa for the DP, at least the D's been there today other than Floyd's RF adventure but that didn't even cost a base.

sweet, wind just affects the balls hit by the Cubs.

and a leadoff BB to zimmerman

len just said on TV that stats inc. reports zombie has given up four in the first three times in his career - ALL THREE TIMES IN HIS LAST ELEVEN STARTS!!!

60 pitches in two and a third...

Is there any feeling worse than pulling up mlb Gameday and seeing the Cubs losing by 4 runs in the third inning to the NATIONALS?

Z is apparently trying to avoid our record in one-run games.

"trying to avoid worsening our record in one-run games."

Quick Poll-

Z is bad today because-

a) Injury

b) Michael Barrett

c) Contract Talks

d) A fan has a shiny object in the stands

woo D-Lee

do you think we missed d. lee very much last year?

I blame Barrett for D-Lee's home run...

I know dusty baker did. :)

we are coming back vs. a guy who entered w/ .158 BA against!

is aramis okay?

Poor JJ, 2 homers taken away by the wind.

we are coming back vs. a guy who entered w/ .158 BA against!

we're coming back vs. Jason Bergmann, let's put it in it's proper context.

Quade hand signals after the ARam collision...

anyone read sign language? does it translate to you **** oaf?

ARam ever play hockey defenseman?

Z going for the 175 pitch complete game today?

Anyone else getting more comfortable with JJ staying out in CF?

Pie probably already has his bags packed for the Guzman callup for Sunday.

why are they running against Schneider with Derosa?

had to be a hit and run, of course looked like Derosa snuck his hand in there before the tag but ball beat him easily.

and a 2b by izturis


If it was a hit and run, why didn't izturis swing?

missed sign?

should be 5-4 at least, should be 8-4 if wind wasn't blowing in.

soriano limping a bit after scoring

someone teach Mike Quade the stop sign when guys ask to steal.

Rob, he's faking so Pie will stay with the club.

soriano definitely laboring in the outfield...ugh

Soriano hasn't looked comfortable running since he came back. Hopefully Lou will give him a few days off here and there so he can actually let his hammy heal.

Reliever David Aardsma (2-0) has an impressive 23 strikeouts in 15.2 innings, holding opponents to a .154 BAA.

NICE MOVE HENDRY!!! ..again!

yeah Cotts has been a major disappointment....

Reliever Neil Cotts has an impressive 0.00 ERA in 8.7 innings with 7 K's, holding opponents to a .138 BAA.

Woo Hendry!

But Aardsma throws 100mph

so does Kyle Tightpants...

chicks dig the fastball?

Well that changes everything.

garden claw gold...makes a great gift.

I hate dandelions.

seriously, wtf is with the Rotoworld writers these days? I'm going to write a strongly-worded letter.

Despite his struggles in Triple-A, Angel Guzman will be recalled to start Sunday against the Cardinals.

maybe they're talking about aug. 19th, next time we play the cards on a sunday.

I hate umps with weird strike zones

anyway, Guzman going to get a 3 start stint to show his stuff starting Sunday vs. the Nationals, then May 12th vs Phillies and then May 17th vs Mets.

Tough draw after the Nats

Barrett has looked pretty lost at the plate lately.

No Tv or Radio-

Looks like JJ's got his stroke going?

And wasn't Zambrano once a GB pitcher... ?

Z had a 1.84 G/F ratio going into today I believe, haven't been paying close enough attention beyond the first to see how today is going.

JJ's been raking it today, 2 deep flies and the double.

Yeah, JJ definitely had 3 deep fly balls, the shortest of which was his only hit. He also had a stellar catch in the first inning.

Nice job by the Cubs to come back after a four-run deficit. That's something last year's team couldn't do.

As for Z, it looks like his four-seamer just can't find the zone early on. He was throwing belt-high 88-mph gopher balls.

P.S. Meant to ask also if anyone else has noticed Z's arm angle being lower this year than last?

at least Z settled down after the first, might have one more inning in him although he's due up 2nd.

intersting note, WGN said Lee & Soriano have reached base safely in every game they've played this year.

Pie to pinch-hit for Z

Cotts up in the pen, I'm sure to make myself and vorare look bad from earlier in the comments.

One of the interesting things about Z is how he's gone from a pitcher that went back and forth from being a ground ball pitcher and a strikeout pitcher in 2003-4-5 to someone who is much less likely to throw GBs this season and last.

shhhh Rob

"cubfanbudman — May 4, 2007 @ 1:46 pm

But Aardsma throws 100mph"

So does Kyle Farnsworth

The trade has worked out so far.
2-0, 1.72 ERA, 23K/6BB

0-0, 0.0 ERA, 7K/4BB.

Cotts out, Wuertz in

.1 IP with a BB for Cotts

Cotts hurt? Seems early to let a guy only pitch to two batters...

Wasn't Restovich on cubs last year?

Trying to forget 2006.

rested bullpen, playing matchups I suppose

didn't work, wuertz gave up a 2b, ohman now in

bullpen doing their best to screw up again.

hope this doesn't go 20 innings...Lou burning through the bullpen with 4 this inning. At least we get The-RIOT in on the double switch

this is very buck showalter-ish

Ohman and that 60 foot curveball walking another...I'm ready to see Rapada

i'm sure ohman will act all indignant again after this crap outing too.


I know Lou was playing the percentages, but is there really a reason he couldn't trust Cotts (he of the 0.00 ERA) to face a few righties? Since when did Cotts go from long reliever to LOOGY?

Lou has a couple of head scratchers today starting with Izzy's start.

Anybody else think Santo sounded like Harry today?

Lou just trying to protect Cotts stats from deteriorating in the Aardsma comparison game...

Rapada in AAA right now

11.1 IP, 7 ER, 2 HR, 6 BB, 11 K, 5.56 ERA

bring him in, stat.

Clay's stats almost Angel Guzman like

So did Lou let Tony LaRussa manage the 7th, or does he just need to convince the higher ups that he really does need a 12 man pen?

Its nice to see Micah Bowie hasn't changed much.

nice and important hit by Pee-Aye

OK, riddle me this: count is 3-1, runners on 1st and 2nd, DLee up next, why oh WHY is TheRiot swinging??? I like his game a lot, but that's just dumb.

I agree Garsky. I was hoping DLee would get one more shot at continuing his doubles streak since he had what looked like a sure double taken away earlier in the game.

theriot looked at one down the middle the pitch before, he got a good swing on it, just right at the CF.

I like this Dempster much better. Can we keep him if they find the one from last season?


If Lou gives him the swing away sign then what do you want him to do? Take strike 2?

I hope the aliens that took the real Jason Marquis and Ryan Dempster, and replace them with ET's, do the same to Izzy .

He ripped a liner into center field on the 3-1 pitch and it was caught by Church. It was right down the middle and if it was a little left or right, it's a hit. Let's talk about Soriano striking out on a pitch that bounced in the left handed batter's box.

With Theriot hitting .333 I trust him enough to know when to hit a strike.

If it was Izzy though....

Sorry if I sound negative, I'm really not right now. Great win today.

Who says Spring Training doesn't matter? DLee is now hitting .422, which is about what he hit in S-T.


Great win -- down 4-0 after one, then rally. Similiar to the BoSox last ngiht.

Who says Spring Training doesn’t matter?

Ronny Cedeno?
Cesar Izturis?
Wade Miller?

And pending tonight's game, we will either be 4 games out of first or alone in second place.

D-Lee picking right up where he left off in 05 and last year before his injury. Prior to 05, Lee was a notorious slow starter with lousy Aprils and Mays, now all of a sudden he comes to the Cubs and he's a maniac the first quarter of the season. Hey, not complaining, but it's weird how he turned that around.

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