Game 37 Thread / Cubs @ Mets (2 of 4)

Game Chat Carlos Zambrano vs. John Maine Lineups:
Theriot 2B Reyes SS
Floyd RF Chavez LF
Soriano LF Beltran CF
Ramirez 3B Delgado 1B
Ward 1B Wright 3B
Barrett C Green RF
Jones CF Lo Duca C
Izturis SS Easley 2B
Zambrano P Maine P
No official word on DeRosa, Lee or Fontenot yet. In other news, I was right on both of my lineup guesses for tonight. The Mets made it easy by going with the same lineup from last night. UPDATENear the bottom of this thread, you'll see a note from Bruce Miles saying that Rocky Cherry has been demoted and Mike Fontenot has been called up. This seems to jive with my theory that DeRosa and Lee will both miss a few games but not enough to put them on the disabled list.


hmmm... I am not sure that this job sitting in front of a computer all day is going to too productive if I always comment this often...


When Lee and DeRosa gets back, this is the lineup that I would LOVE to see:

Theriot - SS
Lee - 1b
Soriano - LF
A-Ram - 3b
Jones - CF (against RHP)
Floyd/Murton - RF
Barrett - C
DeRosa - 2b

Against LHP Pagan plays Center and bats 8th, moving everyone else up.

Until Lee re-develops his homerun power, he is currently an ideal #2 hitter - high average, high OBP, doubles power, speed, etc. The only thing you wouldn't have him to that a typical #2 hitter does is bunt, but bunting is overrated anyway, and LouPa doesn't seem to bunt too often, at least early on.

The Mets are using the same line-up as last night?

Is that allowed..?

Man. There's some lard on the right side of the field, that's for sure.

So Floyd whines about playing time and then gets some. Fine with me as long as he puts up some numbers. I'd make a crack about his defense but I just keep replaying Murton's "close the glove before the ball arrives" trick.

Jones waaaaaaay down in the line up.

Game doesn't start for an hour, but I'm going to go all Coach Wes here for a minute because I already know what I'll be saying in the home half of the third:


I would have won the pot 7-5 odds that Floyd gets the start tonight. Squeaky wheel gets the greasin and Floyd aint afraid to squeak to Lou. I honestly think this is who Lou was refering to when he told Girardi that playing vets keeps the clubhouse happy.

Floyd's started one game in the last week....

and Maine's been a little walk happy vs the lefties the last 2 years.

I don't think Lou was referring to anybody specifically.

That's just the status quo on most teams. Vets expect to play at every level from indy ball all the way up to the bigs. Rookies don't get to complain about not playing because they are rookies. Veterans earn the right to ask for more AB's because they're veterans.

Not saying that's the right way or the wrong way to go about it. That's just how it works.

Looking forward to how Zambrano has accepted Lou's comments on his mechanics. I know they tryed to correct him back in 2001 in Iowa.

Oh, and I don't know if this was mentioned in the fontenot thread or not (that really escalated quickly, too much to sift through), but here's this blurb from

"With Mark DeRosa undergoing an MRI on his hand, infield prospect Mike Fontenot is being called up to join the big-league club."

Wes -- yep. I believe it's his ring finger what's been bothering him.

Thanks for the copy/paste, though.

the mouthpiece on Josh Hamilton...

The Cubs had no intention of drafting anyone in the Rule 5 Draft, and they didn't trade Hamilton, they traded their pick to the Reds. The Cubs didn't know who the Reds would select until they handed a Chicago official a slip of paper with his name. The Reds took a gamble on Hamilton; they've even hired someone full-time to keep an eye on him.

that doesn't jive with any other story I read about it....

post updated with the roster move...

Still pissed me off Rob. I don't care if we picked him with express interest of trading him or not, we DIRECTLY and PURPOSEFULLY helped out a division rival. I would have told them to stick it. Maybe another team would have selected him and the Red would never had gotten the chance. I don't understand why we would do this.

well first I don't buy that story from Carrie one bit...

Second, you don't piss of other GM's unless it's worth it. A sketchy Rule V pick isn't worth it.

Adam Dunn is worth it.

Ceda and Muldowney to the DL

Chris Shaver to Peoria

Arm angle considerably better in the first inning for Big Z. Started to move back towards 3/4's in the second and he threw a couple in the happy zone.

Seems much more compact mechanically as a whole, which is something I know he was working on.

they have to be trying to set a record for RISP

It's past time to DFA or at the very least platoon Santo.

Saw the last 6 innings of the Iowa Cubs game today. They were sloppy early on defensively. They rallied to tie in the bottom of the ninth, but left the bases loaded then when Chris Walker made a Neifi-like bunt, which the Sacramento catcher picked up and walked back to the plate for the force, with the runner still about 35 feet up the line.

Felix Pie snuffed a rally in the top of the tenth with a great throw from center to the plate, turning a sacrifice fly into an inning-ending DP. Whatever his hitting problems, he sure looks good in center field. Mike Kinkade hit a 2-run homer in the bottom of the tenth to send us home happy.

wheeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a hit with runners in scoring position!

and hi carlos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!1!!!111one1one!

all hail the salami

a laugher now at 9-1. Come on Carlos, get some decent work in.


btw, i went to the game at shea last night.....was in traffic for the first two innings which basically means i saw the cubs lose 5-0, and no lee. blech.

it was also damn cold and windy. going again tomorrow.....much more excited after this evening.

the brewers got a gift out at the plate call on the phils in the bottom of the 8th, better not win by one.

heh..they gave fontenot #17

of course.....brewers.

what a terrible call

Wellmeyer claimed off waivers by the Cardinals.

Lee still in Chicago, advised not to travel. DeRosa didn't even have the MRI, says he can go if necessary.

Some talk about Marshall and/or Marmol for the pen.

Marshall has looked pretty good in Iowa. 2.16 era in just 16 innings but has been wild at times.

a great Z outting...woo.

marshall's first two starts for iowa were solid; last one was a little wobbly...what's the consensus here on wade miller's future?

kill him

The consensus is that he has no future.

Although Wade Miller could well have a future with another MLB club desperate for a veteran rotation starter. It's called the Sidney Ponson Rule.

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  • I think it's probably hard to adjust to an ump's zone mid-game, as least for hitters. Pitchers can locate to an ump's zone, but hitters have minimal time to react.

    But, whatever. Umps are going to miss calls. Let's beat up on the non-Lackey starters.

  • Watched a little of Mets-Dodgers.

    Jason deGrom -- oh, my.

  • Cubs 3-4-5 hitters are 0-21 so far in the post-season.

    Let's change that in a big effin' way tomorrow, boys.

  • Considering how players reacted it seemed pretty accurate high and wide (to righties), but not so accurate low and in. I thought the strike zone by the ump was awful, but it was consistent and the Cubs never adjusted.

    Rizzo and Bryant need to have good at bats. They are really looking outclassed in these two games.

  • that game sounds fun as hell.

  • I was just wondering the same thing. I'd rather not see it at all. If it's inaccurate, it's a bad viewer experience. If it's accurate, it shows some shitty calling by the umpire.

  • TBS' K Zone seems to be more harsh than the others.

    I wonder if MLB will ask the networks to stop using them. They just make the umps, and the game, look bad, and it only pisses off the fans.

  • ...joe.

  • "Strop vs. Cardinals." Seen the movie. Hated it.

    Not all that disappointed -- I didn't think they would beat Lackey in Game 1. Need to get the bats going against the guys with less experience -- and they hit Wacha pretty good.

  • Rizzo has been slumping the last couple weeks of the season. Very disappointed it has continued during his penultimate moment of his career to date.

  • Really doesn't matter, but I was surprised to see Lester pulled and Strop pulled in. Should of left Lester in. oy.

  • Sweet merciful fuck, I hate the Cardinals.

  • *flips table*


  • Really doesn't matter, but I was surprised to see Lester out for the 8th. Down 1-0, at 100 pitches, seemed better to give a very fresh bullpen a little work.

    Oh well...Throw away game, although in a 5 game series there is no luxury afforded to do that.

  • This game is not on Lester - he did his job

  • Had a lot of hope hanging on that deep Fowler fly in the sixth.

    Really despise the Cards