Game 69 Thread/Cubs @ Rangers (#1 of 3)

(Sorry--this was to have gone up 90 minutes ago. Pretend it's then.) Game chat Sean Marshall (3-2, 2.12) v. Robinson Tejeda (5-7, 6.49) Lou’s Fight Club resumes interleague play Tuesday night with the first of three games at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, formerly known as Ameriquest Field, formerly formerly known as the Ballpark At Arlington. A couple things about the place haven’t changed over the years. It’s hot. And lots of runs are scored there. Rightfield and the right-centerfield alley are especially home run-friendly territory. Marshall, who beat the Mariners for his third straight win last Wednesday and has held opposing hitters to a .216 AVG this season, has never pitched against the Rangers. Tejeda, meanwhile, has one career start against the Cubs, back in ’05 when he was a Phillie (6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, no decision). Other notes: Rangers SS Michael Young has the highest batting average in the history of interleague play, .348 (min. 300 PA). Also, DH/RF Sammy Sosa has mashed lefties this year--.347 AVG with 17 RBI in just 49 AB, 1.092 OPS. Sosa, you may recall, used to play for the White Sox.


Lou's Fight Club... nice.

Sosa for the White Sox? I remember him. He's put on a bit of weight since then.

Texas Rangers play-by-play announcer in the 6th inning:

"and Fontenot, THE HIT MACHINE, gets aboard"

Interesting, the new regime at Baltimore has Korey Patterson .204 .258 .285 starting and batting SECOND tonight instead of the usual #8. No doubt the hope is he will see more fastballs and start making contact.

But, He didn't see very well his first AB. and struck out swinging on an 0-2 count.

Dempster is horrible. We should bring in Gagne or we'll never win games.

Go Cubs!

Damn you , ryan dempster!!


lady marmolaaaaaaade

rangers announcers said he's "the cubs answer to K-Rod". he certainly looked it tonight. i'll settle for above average reliever. go cubs! let's get em all against a bad and wounded rangers squad.


that is one of the best epilogues i have ever read.
bully on you.

Dempster has looked good but for three bigtime blowups this year. If the Cubs pack it in later this summer, I think he could bring some genuine value in trade.

How about Bobby Howry, too? He looks like last year again, throwing strikes and some real heat, I like it. Man, did we need that back in April and May :-( We'd be at .500 minimum right now.

Almost forget to mention, your 2007 Texas Rangers feature:

1. Sammy Sosa
2. Kenny Lofton
3. Ron Mahay
4. Adam Melhuse
5. Jerry Hairston the Lesser


Cubs bullpen tonight: 5IP 0H 9K 0BB 1 Win (Marmol) 1 Hold (Howry) 1 Save (Dempster)

Time to get Arizona Phil's pic of the Nasty Boys out of the TCR closet, er archives, again ...

Suprised Sosa didn't get in on the Marshall clobbering party.

One for Horatio from

"But Sheets grimaced when asked about his matchups with Bonds, who went 0-for-3 with a walk and a strikeout after being watched by commissioner Bud Selig in a low-key appearance at Miller Park the night before.

"From where I was standing it would be tough to not think I threw more strikes than got called, but I'm not going to whine about it," said Sheets, who credited plate umpire Dana DeMuth with a consistent strike zone."

that was a good way for the bullpen to pickup
marshall and to get him out of there early
marmol was lites out .
for some reason i think we need to score
about 8 runs wednesday to win.
interleague play is a good way to showcase
j. jones foer trades but maybe we should dh
him so those 4 hop throws to second base dont show up.

Carlos Marmol has quietly thrown almost 18 innings this season and has allowed two (2) runs. Dos. Deux. That's all. A 1.02 ERA if you're scoring at home.

WHIP at 0.930.

if tampa bay wins tonite they will have the same record as cubs
that is depressing
think how the yankees feel tampa is only 3 games
behind them

marmol's walked 2 people in june...its been great.

Are those haikus that failed? Or what?

carlos marmol, june
he has only walked two guys
he should keep it up

woohoo. i got to see the cubs win in person.

I understand the complaints about interleague, but i just got to watch the cubs in person.

Got ok seats in the upper home run deck tomorrow. Thursdays day game tho i just bought me a behind home plate seat. Thought it would be worth splurging :)


Oh, on a funny note, the loudness of the cubs fans after the game was freaking hilarious. (i'm pretty sure beer was involved)

I've been to a few rangers games, and while their fans ain't no cubs fans, they aren't all that bad. So to hear during the game the amount of cheers when the cubs did good was pretty damn cool. Usually you hear the few and proud opposing team fans, but tonight the cubs fans cheers easily drowned the boos.


josh, during the 7th inning stretch did the 'root root root for the CUBIES' drown out the rest of the crowd?

The Cubbies bullpen:
Sometimes it's good, sometimes not.
Just like life, it seems.

Marmol was bad ass
He saved the day for our Cubs
Where are the home runs?

Tampa Bay has some SERIOUS young talent, for real.

We all love Marmol.
But don't overuse or he'll
vanish into Eyre.

Levine has learned that Barrett was just dealt to the SD Fathers...hasn't gotten wind of who is coming back yet though.

I say ZHL has the early lead in the Haiku contest. "Vanish into Eyre"...very nice.

Confirmed on

no details

Buster Olnet, ESPN, now reporting Barrett traded to Padres. No word yet on who comes to Chicago.

with Barrett gone, who will we blame for everything?

I don't know what shocks me more ... Hendry making this move today or Silent Towel calling it about 3-4 days ago.

Well that makes for an awkward June 26th home game.

Michael Barrett Home Jersey.

Who is the catcher!?!?!?!?

joe c-

Ryan Dempster

and 7/1 M.Barrett bobblehead day....oops!

I'm going to fucking lose it if it's not Scott Linebrink.

Silent Towel calling it about 3-4 days ago.

Didn't ST say something to the effect of "San Diego wouldn't do this - they have two "young" catchers?"

And damn... I know that I am going to miss Barrett's bat in the lineup...

And odd timing, being that A-Ram is out and Lee will be out soon. The Cubs can't really afford to lose another good bat, and Barrett has been hitting the ball quite well of late.

They've been trying to trade Linebrink forever, but is Barrett enough in return for them? Also, what do they need Barrett for anyhow?

"with Barrett gone, who will we blame for everything?"

Fontenot is so good that he'll take both the blame and our praises.

well SD's C depth chart is currently

Pete LaForest

not real exciting prospects if we're getting a C back.

Dave: From now on, I'm going to email all of my comments to you for copy-editing before I post them. =)

Barrett is the most likeable Cub I've ever been glad to see traded.

We'll miss you, Slider Mike!

Wow, the Cubs are not shy about making a move once Hendry and Piniella get into alignment.

Too bad JJ is the immoveable object.

Sorry to see Barrett go, actually I am more sad that his defense never got better. Lets hope they get something good in return and this is not just another dump.

The only Barrett news in my aggregate is about him catching Z on Friday.

After saying that, they only had one choice - send him to the edge of Mexico to get them away from each other.

Breathlessly waiting to see who we got back (probably Bard + prospect I would guess), who is catching now (Bard and Hill?), etc.

Well, we should rattle off twenty or thirty wins in a row, now.

I don't know how another reliever helps, when you know have Soto and Hill as your everyday catchers.

I too will miss Barrett but he obivously wore out his welcome.

Rob Bowen and a prospect coming back according to Levine...gehh

Wow... Bowen is has put up a .371 OBP this year.

Of course... that is a huge exception from his normal major league numbers (.230/.327/.376) and minor league numbers (.238/.324/.391). Not sure the point of getting a catcher back who isn't any better than the catchers currently on the roster (Hill and Soto).

Score via Mike North (I know, I know) reporting Linebrink and Bowen.

26-y-o switch-hitting catcher whose stick has gotten better each of four years in the majors ... maybe some potential here.

Wait a sec...who's going to start if we get Bowen back? That's 4 backup catchers between Blanco, Bowen, Hill and Geovany Soto (who's tearing the cover off the ball at a .325/.400/.556 clip at Iowa).

And this one is fun - he has only caught one of nine possible base stealers. And we didn't like Barrett's ability to keep runners from stealing?

And three passed balls for Bowen in 202 innings, compared to 8 passed balls for Barrett in 466 innings.

Not much of a difference there either.

Hits for much higher average at a rightie ... 2 HRs both as a leftie though

Sheffield... Blanco is probably out for a while, if not for good, with his back injury.

In 30 games, Bowen's stats:


2 HR, 11 RBIs in 80+ AB's

He's a 26 yr old switch-hitter. Does anyone have a report on his defensive skills? Not that they'd have to be much to be better than Barrett.

ZHL said: "26-y-o switch-hitting catcher etc."

Switch-hitting--you made my day.

My guess is Hendry didn't care as much about the backstop defense so much as the adverse behavior toward the pitchers.

That being said, why not try to upgrade the defense behind the plate if you're going to trade away a bad defensive catcher?

Scouting report is above-average defensive catcher (good plate blocking, good arm), hits better from the lest side, poor plate discipline.

Levine also saying that Hendry is still working on the prospect end and supposedly the Cubs are looking to send $ along with Barrett for a high level prospect....ordinarily that would sound good except that SD has among the worst, if not the worst farm system in baseball. Unless the prospect is Cesar Carillo nothing is really too enticing to me.

er, left


I was referring to when (if?) Blanco comes back this year.

Levine: Hendry and Towers have been working on the deal for over a week now....a larger deal was being discussed with Barrett, Jacque and Izturis for K.Greene and Bowen...apparently Towers backed out and now we get the now completed yawner.

Levine thinks Soto will be brought up in place of K.Hill as well.

Vorare ... numbers back up almost none of that scouting report. He's been terrible at throwing out baserunners, his average is way higher as a RH hitter than a LH hitter and his OBP for his career has been considerably higher than one would expect based on his batting average.

Another horrible trade if the prospect doesn't turn out to be at least top 20. Bowen has a career minor league BAVG of .238; his only tools are his receiving skills -- think a young Blanco.

Why the fuck didn't Hendry try to get Linebrink? Last I heard he had a "Trade Me Please" tag on his locker.

Bogey .... dayum, that would've been like Christmas and Opening Day rolled into one here at TCR.


Carrillo is out of the year with Tommy John Surgery.

I guess the big question will be if the prima donna pitchers will get along with Bowen.

Did Hendry take them all out for ice cream last week end to see how they got along?

Will Bowen accept responsiblity for hanging curves?

Also positive is that Barrett is gone with Zambrano still here. Zambrano got what he wanted. Now maybe we'll get what we want: Big Z in his prime years.

His MLB numbers? The guy has 200 at bats and around 500 innings behin the plate at the MLB level spread over four seasons. I'll trust the scouting report over those numbers, thanks.

if I have this correct, Bowen's career caught stealing line is 3 out of 31.....gehhhhhhhhh.

yes I know Carlos...and he's still their best prospect.

lolz lolz lolz.

Maybe Andy MacPhail wasn't the root cause after all.

With the way everyone around here shits all over Barrett, I don't see how there's room to complain about the trade. If Barrett is truly such a cancer we should be glad to get anything, right?

Does Bowen throw behind runners in the late innings of close games? Does he yell at opposing pitchers and fire up the other team? Does he sucker-punch other players and get suspended for 10 games? Does he get picked off 2nd base by the catcher? Thrown out trynig to steal 3rd?

The purging has begun. Forget the stats -- I don't think Lou can stand guys who make stupid mistakes on a consistent basis.

One problem -- who's gonna punch AJ this weekend?

not counting the Padres 2007 draft picks, SD's otherwise thin P prospect depth would include

Jared Wells RHP
Cesar Ramos LHP

Does anyone know if maybe the Pads' pitchers just have long strides and the baserunners were stealing off the pitchers (like R. Hill before he started using the slide-step)?

It actually is amazing we can get a fringe MLB guy for him.

* Makes a lot for his position
* Only 3 months of club control left
* Poor pitch-calling
* Poor arm
* Poor ball-blocking
* Known for bat but generally struggled at plate this year, although hitting better last 30-40 ABs
* Recently fought with one SP and had heated discussion with another

For all his faults, Barrett's probably going to the playoffs this year. We'll see if Cubs can bother to do the same.

Bowen is a very sound receiver. Blanco is obviously the best we have, but Bowen is very good.

For those who thought that Barrett's bat didn't make up for his defense, you've got exactly the opposite. Pretty good defensively and so-so offensively. Not to either extreme of Henry, but somewhere in the middle.

You' would also only throw out one base-stealer if David Wells, Greg Maddux, and Jake Peavy were on your pitching staff. We already know about Wells and Maddux's inability to hold guys on.

Peavy is very long to home plate for a power pitcher. Probably running up over a second and a half.

Meh, I was banking on the first round draft pick we'd get for Barrett signing elsewhere next offseason.

With the way everyone around here shits all over Barrett, I don’t see how there’s room to complain about the trade.

Not everyone "shits all over Barrett." I sure haven't.

And getting a mediocre (at best) catcher and a minor league prospect is pretty poor value for a Silver Slugger catcher.

As for Bowen's defense? The scouting report may be impressive, but his actual performance has been pretty poor up to this point. His basic defensive stats (pb, cs, etc) have been at best the same as Barrett's, if not worse.

yeah Wes, except Bowen was 1/14 during his stints with the Twins as well. I don't remember any slow to the plate old/fat guys with the Twins 2003-04.

Barrett’s probably going to the playoffs this year.

That is not possible... Barrett could not possibly be on a winning team.


Road to Wrigley is reporting Colvin got promoted to Tennessee.

"Does anyone know if maybe the Pads’ pitchers just have long strides and the baserunners were stealing off the pitchers (like R. Hill before he started using the slide-step)?"

Runners stealing off the pitcher? Well, Bowen has caught Maddux only five times, and has allowed eight stolen bases and hasn't caught a runner stealing yet in his starts.

If Rosenthal is correct I'm not sure Kyler Burke qualifies as "a top tier prospect" as to where the Cubs would have to include additional $. Olney and Levine say it's supposed to be a P prospect though so I guess we'll see.

S.D.Union Tribune also reporting Burke.

bogey - thanks for all the updates, great stuff! I would have liked more in return for Michael but it's probably for the best that Barrett gets a new start. The Padres do not seem too hung up with catching futility considering their Piazza signing last season.

Burke was the 35th pick in the 2006 draft.

It's kind of sad because even though his skills are real shaky, Barrett is a gamer.

Joe C:
with Barrett gone, who will we blame for everything?

I nominate Izzy.

For what it's worth, in 163 ABs in the Arizona Instructional League in 2006, Burke, a RF, hit .209/.313/.294 with 56 Ks and 26 BBs. That was his age 18 season.

Marmol looked like KRod last night --- wow!
Where in the hell did this come from?

7th - Marmol
8th - Howry
9th - Dempster

Our pen finally looks solid.

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  • video of Maddon.

    always nice that he actually tries to honestly answer questions. Does mention that he wanted to give Zastr? a chance in a meaningful spot rather than a mop-up role.

    Rob G. 14 hours 21 min ago view
  • from Muskat:

    #Cubs Maddon: "I'm not going to make up an excuse for why I did what I did. It has nothing to do with lack of confidence" ... "It was the right thing to do today based on what I saw, what their lineup looked like and Rob Z.'s availability." #Cubs

    Rob G. 14 hours 26 min ago view

    Hammel not particularly understanding of getting pulled he should. Be curious what Maddon had to say. All I can think of is is keeping arms fresh and maybe wanting to see if Zastr? is worth considering for the playoffs and how he'd do against the Dodgers.

    Rob G. 14 hours 31 min ago view
  • great defense

    Heyward, Russell, Baez, Bryant, Ross in particular...although Bryant's a bit hard to judge with all the positions.

    Fowler and Rizzo in the top half of the NL for their positions as well (per fangraphs)...Zobrist right at the halfway cutoff for 2b in the NL.

    I'm sure some luck is involved too, but the Cubs and Maddon knew what they were doing.

    Rob G. 14 hours 43 min ago view
  • If all the starters have FIP > ERA, is that luck or good defense?

    Craig A. 14 hours 54 min ago view
  • #Cubs plummet to 19-5 in August.

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    • J. Arrieta     2.62 ERA/3.05 FIP (2.35 FIP last year)
    • J. Lester     2.81 ERA/3.67 FIP (2.92 FIP last year)
    • K. Hendricks  2.19 ERA/3.37 FIP (3.36 FIP last year)
    • J. Lackey     3.41 ERA/3.72 FIP (3.57 FIP last year with Cards)
    Rob G. 15 hours 19 min ago view
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    crunch 15 hours 59 min ago view
  • JD's take was just trying to get in a lefty to better deal with mostly lefty Dodgers lineup.

    My second thought was what you came up with. My first thought was he was trying to light a fire under Hammel.

    Jackstraw 17 hours 12 min ago view
  • Maybe he was trying to spare him another brutal road start? NY, Colorado...

    billybucks 17 hours 29 min ago view
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    not injured and though it wasn't his day so far he wasn't looking like a pure disaster.

    really short leash on him. zastryznzryzryny in.

    crunch 17 hours 33 min ago view
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    Eric S 18 hours 17 min ago view
  • Classic Scully - great stuff.

    Thank God we'll still have Hawk next season. (cricket cricket cricket)

    Eric S 23 hours 8 min ago view
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    "And it's a long fly ball, a mean fly ball, and a gone fly ball."

    VirginiaPhil 1 day 22 min ago view
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    VirginiaPhil 1 day 26 min ago view
  • If only he was clutcher. More clutcher.

    Jackstraw 1 day 1 hour ago view
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    crunch 1 day 8 hours ago view