Game 141 Thread/Cubs @ Pirates (2 of 3)

Game Chat : BR Preview : Game Notes Carlos Zambrano vs. Ian Snell Lineups:
Soriano LF Morgan CF
Theriot SS McLouth RF
Lee 1B Sanchez 2B
Ramirez 3B Bay LF
Floyd RF LaRoche 1B
DeRosa 2B Bautista 3B
Kendall C Paulino C
Jones CF Wilson SS
Zambrano P Snell P
Notes: We need this one. Man, do we need this one.


I think Floyd is going to have a big game today. I just feel it.

Great notes. Informative, yet evokes emotion. Well said.

lol Wes

Floyd has had a mere handful of "big games" all year. I don't feel it.

We need this one.....Does that make it a must win?

High socks... maybe that will help.

Brewers are down 3-0 in the second.

I wonder which Z will show up tonight. Its an adventure everytime.

Scott Moore hit a grand slam today

Len Kasper just announced a Tennessee win tonight.

I don't know if Pittsburgh has any fight in them, but Soriano stood at home plate for a long time on the ball to the stands in left that McLouth could have caught in the pocket of his glove.

Kasper's really on a roll tonight. Go, Len!

First he nails Kendall for turning his glove around--switching from the normal backhand catch to forehand while in the middle of catching a Zambrano curve--that cost Zambrano a strikeout in the seventh inning. (Kendall did it again to Marmol in the eighth.)

Now in the bottom of the eighth, Kasper mentions that Marmol has become "slider-happy," and Brenly backs him up.

I can't believe I'm hearing this! Someone is saying out over the airwaves what I've been writing here for weeks.

First of all, it's a Kendall thing (or a lazy catcher thing). But Rothschild just sits there and watches it while Marmol morphs into Ryan Dempster. What was Marmol's fastball tonight, 91? Remember when he used to throw hard?

All these pitchers could be good, including Wuertz, if we had a pitching coach.

All these pitchers could be good, including Wuertz

Uh... Wuertz is good.

What time is it?

Has this blog always run on Mountain Time?

"I can’t believe I’m hearing this! Someone is saying out over the airwaves what I’ve been writing here for weeks."

newsflash, kendall also hits singles.

and lou is old and needs to shave.

breaking news: neifi perez isnt a good hitter.

im researching a rumor that nick punto may be having a bad year, i'll get back to you on that when i crunch the numbers.

k, seriously...marmol throwing a slider isnt new, nor is him throwing a ton of them new.

you seem to have a new thing with rothschild since you're on a 1-man campaign. should have been here 2 years ago when people still cared about wood/prior.


"What was Marmol’s fastball tonight, 91? Remember when he used to throw hard?"

you know that's begging for a k.hill joke, right?

I just want to bang my head against the wall.

Cooky theories formed in somebody's head are automatically the correct answer and 130 years of pitching are worthless. Flush 'em. We've formulated an entirely new theory. I've been waiting for this day all my life. Now I can throw 99 like everybody else.

Has this blog always run on Mountain Time?

Yes... at least for a long time.

Now I can throw 99 like everybody else.

Only if Koyie Hill is catching.

He is so good that the Cubs minor league pitchers need him more than the Cubs big league pitchers.

Late breaking news. I'm now told kooky is spelled with 2 k's. Interesting.

Looks, it's simple common sense. You guys just like to argue.

Hill didn't feed his pitchers HGH, but he called for more fastballs, and so they threw more, and they threw them on strike two, and they got in better shape to throw fastballs.

Remember when it took Howry two months this season to get his fastball from 91 to 93-94? (Maybe you don't remember, because it's not in BR.)

Well, it works the other way, too. If you don't use it, you lose it.

Why do pitchers warm up, by the way?

Why do pitchers warm up, by the way?

Two different things. This just shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

No, it's not common sense. You have no idea what you're talking about.

If you threw 95 yesterday, you throw 95 today. If you throw 95 in the first inning and don't throw another fastball until the fourth inning, you still throw 95. There is no, "if you don't use it, you lose it." If 95 is in your arm, it's not going anyway when you throw 11 pitches and 4 of them are fastballs as opposed to throwing 11 pitches and they're all fastballs.

You warm up so you can throw 95. If Koyie caught every day, we wouldn't need to warm up. We could just come in cold and they'd already throw 95.

Fuckin' STL, up 6-3. Both STL and MIL were down 3-0 at one point today. UGH!!!!!

ya gotta love Braden Looper!

Allow me to amend #23 slightly. Every day is not identical. Some days your velocity is down, and some days your velocity is up. Multiple factors determine that, however. None of which include pitch selection, which was my original point.

Things like the weather, if you pitched yesterday, if you've pitched a lot in the last week, your confidence, how good/bad your arm feels. how long you had to warm up, and game situation/nerves (among other things) all effect how hard you throw.

I can promise you this VA Phil. Throwing sliders does not make your arm go cold. And it really puzzles me why you think that they do. How can Marmol throw 91 in the 7th, SIT DOWN FOR FIFTEEN MINUTES, then come out and still throw 91-92 in the eighth? If he can do that, how in the world does throwing three sliders in a row make your velocity go down? I've yet to see you provide a physical explanation for this. It's all "it just does." No mechanical reasons. It just does. Tell me, what happens in his arm? Why does it do that? Educate me, coach.

Woohoo!!! 7-7 now... Diamonbacks still up in the 4th.

todd wellemeyer still rules..ARZ up by 2 in the top (STL) of the 5th.

Wow, Zambrano didn't suck ass today.


VA Phil:
I don’t know if Pittsburgh has any fight in them, but Soriano stood at home plate for a long time on the ball to the stands in left that McLouth could have caught in the pocket of his glove.

No, it's only the San Diego Madres that are sensitive to those things.

Moore hit a granny against the suddenly struggling Dice-K, Leicester with the win and Cherry with 2 scoreless.

Go Cubs Minor League Power!!!

It gets better, ordered another round, Cards-about-to-go-DOWN!

that Arod kid is still pretty good....

Dbacks did lose Hudson for the season, torn ligament in his thumb.

go Dbacks!!! stupid Reds...

Game over, Rover - byebye Birdies!!!

Brew-screw and Cubs up 2 on the Cards. How are things on the West coast? I'd say they're doing just fine.

Nice to see Arizona fight back. Cincy is fucking worthless ... contract the Reds.

Preferably before our next series against them.

Valverde just rocked the Tards to sleep. he made Edmonds look old. Older than usual I should say.

Despite the fact that the Brewers won tonight, watching Fielder run the bases gave me a good laugh.

Greg Maddux hasant walked a batter in 8 straight starts or 54 1/3 innings

I dumped David Weathers' pasty ass in my fantasy league months ago. If only the Reds had such clairvoyance.

Shiner Bock, Modest Mouse, Interpol, Kaiser Chiefs, yeah, that's how I roll.

Odd game tonight in AZ 17 runs scored in the 1st half of the game and 0 in the last 4.5 frames. Hopefully we win tommrrow and STL loses to give us a 3 game cushion on them. Also with Trax and Matt Morris going tommrrow, I wonder what going to happen 1st:

A. The Cubs game ends
B. Hester returns a kickoff for a TD
C. Grossman drops a snap
D. LT2 scores a TD
E. Tony Romo throws a pass (DAL is the NBC game this week)

Va Phil,

Considering Soriano looked to be more upset about not hitting the ball well enough than gloating over a HR I dont think they will be.


Dont forget Edgar "the clothsline" Renteria and Jim "mindreader" Wolf.

Has this blog always run on Mountain Time?

when koyie hill posts here, his entries show up on central time.

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was awful nice to see dr. zambrano instead of mr. carlos. although i would also have been screaming at the plate ump; if the inside corner is too inside, and the outside corner is too outside, as it was for (at least) carlos' final hitter, something ain't right.

and i would not mind having my catcher get tossed for pointing that fact out.

with an extra catcher on the bench, why not?

"Brew-screw and Cubs up 2 on the Cards."

Yeah, but only 1 in the loss column. That 4-game series next weekend will be a huge determination as to how the rest of the season goes. The Cubs really need to split with STL in those games.

Haha Chifan... #41 & #42

"I wonder what going to happen 1st:"

Traschel throws only 85 pitches in 7 innings - but takes over 120 minutes to do so.

BTW, did anyone else notice how much Z speeded up his time b/w pitches last night? The guy was getting set up for his next pitch almost as soon as the previous one was in the catcher's mitt - it worked for him, maybe that's been the flaw all along.

Kendall trying to steal Soto's job for next season. :)

If the Cubs are smart they won't "insult" Kendall with an offer for what he's worth.

And with Kendall's contract winding up at $13 million this year, how low an offer can a team make for him?

team can offer him anything unless they offer him arbitration which obviously they won't.

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  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 3 hours 4 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 6 hours 2 min ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 6 hours 14 min ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 6 hours 23 min ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 6 hours 29 min ago view
  • a 60" TV with slow-motion replay and multiple looks on that replay helps...a lot...

    it's one thing to shy away like he did the 2nd time, it's another to bail out of the box on a called strike. that happened in the 1st one he pulled away from. he misjudged that one by a foot or so...

    crunch 6 hours 47 min ago view
  • Good Hendricks sure is fun to watch. He was hitting all his corners today and the Phillies couldn't do anything with his changeup.

    johann 7 hours 23 min ago view
  • Bryant and I believe Zobrist both did that too.

    johann 7 hours 41 min ago view
  • Soler BB acumen and plate awareness is excellent. Not unusual for even the best players to react as if they were about to hit them, "even though they weren't that close" from your vantage point sitting on your deck, or wherever.

    The E-Man 7 hours 43 min ago view
  • soler vs inside breaking balls is scary.

    he's had 2 inside curve balls today where he reacted as if they were about to hit him even though they weren't that he bailed out of the box on, it was a called strike.

    crunch 8 hours 57 sec ago view
  • j.urias optioned back to AAA...guess we wont be seeing him in the LAD series.

    crunch 8 hours 8 min ago view
  • so is him actually getting 2 hits in a game (2 doubles!)...first time he's even been on base 2 times in a game since 9 games ago on his 3/4, 1bb day.

    im ready for him to at least look like a 2-slot hitter since he's gonna be slotted there no matter what he does.

    crunch 9 hours 3 min ago view
  • That Heyward move to avoid Bryant's ball hit at him was a thing of beauty too.

    johann 9 hours 21 min ago view
  • 9 pitches in and this game already rules.

    HR, double...bryant's turn (who came out to a Kris Kross song for some horrible, horrible reason).

    ...2 run inning...zoobrest hitting streak at 14.

    crunch 9 hours 26 min ago view
  • First time I saw Herrera was yesterday. He took like 100 pitches, fouled off a ton off Lester.

    Very nice young player and perfect leadoff guy.

    The E-Man 10 hours 36 min ago view
  • Obviously not Phil. But he mentioned this on Wednesday.

    "Dominican Summer League (DSL) Opening Day is Saturday June 4th, so probably about 8-10 pitchers and position players presently at EXST in Mesa will be sent to the Cubs Dominican Academy (probably sometime this week) and be assigned to either DSL Cubs #1 or DSL Cubs #2."

    In the comments here:

    QuietMan 11 hours 14 min ago view