Game 142 Thread/Cubs @ Pirates (3 of 3)

Game Chat : BR Preview : Game Notes Steve Trachsel vs. Matt Morris Lineups:
Soriano LF Morgan CF
Theriot SS McLouth LF
Lee 1B Sanchez 2B
Ramirez 3B LaRoche 1B
Murton RF Bautista 3B
Jones CF Pearce RF
DeRosa 2B Paulino C
Kendall C Wilson SS
Trachsel P Morris P
Notes: This is a match-up between veteran righties who started the season pitching for eventual bottom-dwellers. Trachsel left Baltimore to join a division leader; Morris left San Francisco only to land on a different part of the bottom...Morris is one of those pitchers I think of as a proverbial Cub-killer, and he has had his moments against us. Still, over his last five starts versus the Cubs, Morris is 0-5, 7.86, allowing 46 hits and 7 HR in just 26 1/3 innings, which sounds an awful lot like batting practice...Trachsel last pitched for the Cubs against the Bucs in July of '99, in a game the Pittsburghs would win 6-1. I'd say it's time for revenge. Let's win this one for Tyler Houston!


The Cub Reporter gets stiffed again.

"BCB is not the only game in town. The many other Cubs blogs, with names such as Agony and Ivy, Goat Riders of the Apocalypse, Cub Fan Nation, Bleacher Hideaway and View from the Bleachers, are testaments to the fact that everybody talks about the Cubs, but unlike the weather, everyone seems to know what to do about them."

Typical. Lists like that are dead giveaways that the writer doesn't know what he's talking about. Agony and Ivy, for example, has had two posts since May...
Cubs Fan Nation with a total of two posts all year is part of Goatriders which is also on the list...


Joe Sheehan from Baseball Prospectus' update on the NL East from Friday:

his interpretation of run differential discussion is interesting, I doubt if that is universally agreed up on though.
"Now, I’ll be the first one to tell you that run differential is both a better indicator of team quality and a better predictor of future performance than actual record is. Other than the impact of a particularly good or bad--or well-leveraged--bullpen, teams don’t show an ability to bunch their runs scored and allowed in ways that affect their won-loss record. At the same time, while a team’s run differential is a critical indicator of quality and long-term outlook, it’s less useful in predicting short-term performance.

In fact, you can take that idea one step further: a baseball team’s performance over its next 23 games is virtually unpredictable, by whatever means you'd try to make one."

and his conclusion...

"I liked the Cubs in February, April, June and August, and I’m sticking with them now. Sometimes, the best team wins, and the Cubs have the best team."

Love the Notes, cubnut. :)

Thanks for nothing CINC. First 3 batters for MIL gets HR's and the first 5 guys get hits. UGH!!!!!!!

And CWTP: thanks for the support. Speaking for myself, at least, I'll take a loyal core of TCR'ers over recognition from the Tribute. (And again speaking for myself, I really do wonder if we've just done enough to irk the Tribune that they're making a point of not referencing us.... That's sort of a cooler theory than the one that says they're not even aware of our existence.)

Thanks for nothing CINC. First 3 batters for MIL gets HR’s and the first 5 guys get hits. UGH!!!!!!

As it turned out I believe the Brewers went back to back HR-HR-HR-single-single-single in that inning. The starter Dumatrait was removed after pitching 0.0 innings.

I was pissed at the Reds for starting a batting practice pitcher against our rival in the pennant race until I remembered that he started against us too--- and tried his best to give us a win, lasting only 2.0 innings with 5 earned runs. Lilly stunk that day and the Reds won 11-9.

Just looked at his game log and he also started against St.Louis so it looks like Cincinnati has been fair to us all.

How can we not find a better 5th starter than Trachsel??? Bring back Marshall!!!

The trachsel experiment should be over. horrible performance.

It should of never even began. Thanks Hendry!!!!

It should of

Since you're back mannytrillo, could we have a moratorium on this malaprop---at least until the season is over (which may be today)?

it's a contraction: SHOULD'VE

Meanwhile, Kevin Hart (who was the Cubs MILB organization's suggestion to take over for Marshall) takes over for Trashel (Hendry and Lou's idea). And he strikes out two in the runs.

"Since you’re back mannytrillo, could we have a moratorium on this malaprop—at least until the season is over (which may be today)?

it’s a contraction: SHOULD’VE"

Thanks professor Pennant... I didn't realize the grammor police we're steel in full effect hear at TCR.

why didn't marshall come in directly after trachsel?

when is he going to start again? why was he removed? what the F is going on?

also, i drifted off for a little.....why is hart already out?

BUCK COATS playing RF for Cincinnati today.

Grammar police?? You're not making a grammatical or even a spelling error, mannytrillo. I could care less about grammar and spelling mistakes.

What you're doing is just stupid and annoying. "Should of" is a malapropism. It sounds like what you mean, but so does "should dove."

But I won't mention it again. It's just painful to read.

Murton has not gone 3 for 3 and hit 3 HRs, therefore he has no place on this team!

*“I liked the Cubs in February, April, June and August, and I’m sticking with them now. Sometimes, the best team wins, and the Cubs have the best team.”*

Right, because the best team is the one stupid enough to go add Monroe & Trachsel and think "Well, that'll do it!".

What you’re doing is just stupid and annoying.

[Insert joke about similarly colored cooking intruments here]


F Trachsel!!!

Lose 2 of 3 vs. PITT in September...UGH!!!!!!!

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  • kuhl is a righty, not a lefty.

    i think maddon might think kuhl is a lefty, too. i wonder what the reasoning is for baez leading off vs a rightie.

    crunch 21 min 33 sec ago view
  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 1 hour 8 min ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 2 hours 13 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 2 hours 58 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 45 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 4 hours 46 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 53 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 5 hours 29 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.


    Tito 5 hours 30 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.


    Tito 5 hours 32 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 5 hours 36 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.








    Tito 5 hours 36 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 5 hours 40 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 5 hours 53 min ago view
  • I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.


    Tito 5 hours 58 min ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

    exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...

    crunch 6 hours 57 sec ago view