Game 157 Thread / Cubs @ Marlins (1 of 3)

Game Chat : BR Preview : Game Notes Ted Lilly vs. Dontrelle Willis Lineups:
Soriano LF Ramirez SS
DeRosa 2B Uggla 2B
Lee 1B Hermida RF
Ramirez 3B Cabrera 3B
Murton RF Jacobs 1B
Soto C Olivo C
Monroe CF Linden LF
Theriot SS Carroll CF
Lilly P Willis P
Just 16 days short of four years ago, the Cubs hooked up with Willis in Miami, Aramis Ramirez clubbed a first-inning grand slam, and every Cub fan on the planet was scrambling to figure out who he would have to bribe, suck up to, or kill in order to get himself a World Series ticket. Now only Ramirez, Carlos Zambrano and Kerry Wood remain from that star-crossed Cub team, and the sights will be set a little lower for the moment, with the focus on getting the Cubs one step closer to locking up the NL Central. Willis was a winner in his only start against the Cubs back in May. Lilly lost to the Marlins in the finale of that same miserable series, a three-game Florida sweep in Wrigley that left the home team 22-29, six games behind the first-place Brewers, and looking almost completely hopeless. At, Carrie Muskat points out that the 9-4 Cub loss on 5/29 was so bad, it prompted a players-only meeting before the game on 5/30...which the Cubs then went out and lost 9-0 behind Lilly. I'm glad it's now and not then. Among the current Cubs, Alfonso Soriano has had the most luck against the Florida lefty (8-for-17 with a home run). Overall, the Cubs have won 10 of 12; the Marlins have lost 7 of 8.


How's the weather looking? Anyone actually in Florida?

I am going to hijack this thread like AZ Phil's got hijacked...

So back to the Instructional league game - nice to see Vitters take a couple of walks.

Mateo looked OK, pitching two innings of shutout ball and getting ground ball after ground ball with a hard-driving sinker, although he did surrender three ground singles along the way.

If I were to assume that groundballs in AZ in September to an infield of guys in there first year of professional ball is not the quickest way to success, would you agree with me, or is the field kept in close approximation of a ML diamond?

Let's kick some ass!!

Froggy went a courtin' he did ride, crambone...

She'll be comin' round that mountain when she comes...

I've been working on the railroad...

If you're ever down in Texas, look me up...

I love symmetry.

So earlier in the season, the Cubs were well under .500 and ran into a Marlin team that swept us. Now at the end of the season things are reversed and we are well over .500. Perhaps fate will allow us to return the favor and all but guaranteeing us a trip to the playoffs.

We just need StL to take one off them Brewers and I will feel so much better.




andy I am so jittery right now i can barely walk yet get fired up. I want to crawl under my bed and hide.



WHO'S WITH ME!!!!??!???!!!!?!?!?!

I'm in. Hand me the seal ejaculate!

currently cloudy, spotty patches of green, 60% chance of rain, "watch for lightning"

Radar map was about 3 hours ago though.

How's the weather lookin?

Here's the Biscayne Bay Cam looking at Miami ~~~live!~~~.

latest image around 6:30 local time, small patch of green over Miami with larger patches of green possibly moving in..


I'm in!

I remember thinking "Holy %$^&*, we're in the Series" after Ramirez's GS. Oops.

I hope this fish fry is an all-you-can-eat

Here's a live feed from the Centerfield camera at Prolphin stadium




It's bad juju!

I think it was a sweep in Miami last year that made me think the season was officially over.

"I think it was a sweep in Miami last year that made me think the season was officially over."

Maybe a Cubs sweep in Miami this year will make you realize that the post season is officially (almost) just starting?

Again, symmetry!



/buys Chad a Corona

Damnit. Can we stop seeing with Monroe in CF? His .220/.304/.317 ain't cuttin' it.

Well 3 wins puts us into what I consider the 'post season', though technically I guess it is considered part of the regular season.

I have trouble thinking of symmetry, I think more along the lines of 'man, it's been a long time since we beet the marlins and some of those HR's we pounded out against the Pirates would be warning track outs (or maybe doubles) in Prolphin Stadium.

Neal, I know that 3 wins does not clinch the division but I really doubt that the Brewers are going to sweep the Cards and Pad. So our 3 wins (almost - did you miss the almost last time?) puts us in the post season.

For the record a 1 game playoff counts as the regular season.

Ahh, but the almost could apply to the date (the post season starts on the 2nd) rather than on the clinchidness of the title.

Anyway it looks good for the Cubs and it seems like we have historically roughed up the D-Train pretty well so I like the chances to lop one off our magic number tonight.

I full expect the Brewers to win five of six. Really the only tough pitcher they face is Young, and the way the Pads are going they may have nothing to play for by Saturday.

Nice to see Pinhead is swinging back into his overmanaging mode. Intentional walks in the first inning? Genius! Hopefully the Cubs will start sacrifcing if they can get a runner on in the 2nd.

Rotoworld is saying Dunn will have knee surgery on Wednesday. So no Dunn and Griffey should equal Cubs sweep this weekend.

This doesn't look good.

We look like crap out there tonight.


This looks like May all over again.

i can't recall a team more inclined to swing at the first pitch immediately following a walk.

hopefully, the decide to show up tomorrow night.

What a disgusting offensive effort thus far.

How could a team come flat on a game like today? It absolutely amazes me. Maybe Lou should get fiery.

..and LaRussa's "Look, I'm a genius!" move of batting the pitcher 8th backfires. 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs, #7 hitter up...and the Brewers intentionally walk him to get to Looper, who K's with the bat on his shoulder.

Gee, Tony, given how your team has crumbled --maybe go back to a normal batting order?

Looks like the Cubs will need to win 4 of their last 5 to win the division -- Brewers are taking no prisoners at home, and the Cards and Pods are dead.

Why can't the Cubs beat this team?

One lousy inning. Hits by the 7, 8 and 9 hitters. Why does this sound familiar?

Very queasy.....very, very queasy.


Yeah, now Chad has got me nervous. If MIL wins, which they are 4-1 right now thru 5, the magic number will still be 4 and the Cubs will be up 2 games with 5 to play. Still think the Cubs will do it, but doubt is definitely creeping in. Hold on for the ride...

"I hate myself and I want to die"

- Kurt Cobain

NOW ITS MY FAULT?!??!?!?!?!?!!?!?

"NOW ITS MY FAULT?!??!?!?!?!?!!?!?"

HA HA. I gotta blame someone right now, maybe someone else will step up and be the scapegoat tomorrow...:)

Reason #1,099 to hate the Cardinals...

Cubs now 0-4 vs. the Fish.

Cue the ominous music.

Good thing they are on the road, so they can't feel the panic that has crept in since Sunday.

Cards load the bases with one out in the 6th, but don't score. There's your ballgame.

Two up with 5 to play.

Funny...a few days ago, that would sounded great...

Recent comments

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  • I think that if a team objects to the 1-game wildcard playin game so much, they could just win the pennant and avoid themselves the trouble.

  • Per Jesse Sanchez at, Cubs reportedly have signed 20-year old Cuban OF Eddy Julio Martinez for $3M bonus. 

  • BLOCK: Of course any advantage is an advantage. An MLB, NBA, or NHL team getting the extra game at home in a seven game series is an advantage, I just don't think it is enough of an advantage for winning a division and/or having the best record in a conference or league over the course of an 82-game season (NBA and NHL) or 162 game series (MLB).

  • TEX takes the opening game from TOR (@TOR) 5-3.

    TOR lost bautista + donaldson in-game due to injuries...TEX lost beltre...dunno if any will be lingering issues leading to missed games.

  • Ride the Kid Magic! Schwarber hadn't homered in a long time before last night.

  • Greg Maddux was 8-18 in his rookie season. Kyle has the 8 wins down pat.

    Think Baby Maddux.

    Prof. Harold Hill's THINK system at work.

    Kyle is on the far left.

  • I support this. Hendricks has not only looked better lately but seems to start struggling after a few innings which is better than the 1st in the playoffs.

  • Just tweeted via Jesse Rogers: Hendricks starting Game 2. Wow. Just wow.

  • That was good!

  • Well said. On one hand, I thought the HBP was a bad baseball play -- down 4 runs, put a runner on for a red-hot Fowler. On the other hand, they needed to do something -- I hadn't thought about the warning/pitching inside point. Is Hurdle that smart? He does not strike me that way. By the way -- not clear which fan base you are referring to in your "first" 3rd point.

  • My unsolicited opinions on topics covered in this thread:
    1. I hate the fact that after 162 games, a team could be out after 1 game. However, I think the system is pretty close to perfect right now. 2 of 3 isn't feasible unless they shorten the regular season, and it ices the division winners for way too long. This creates excitement, and rewards the division winners.

  • Personally, I think the game could have had a very different look had the Pirates held onto the ball and tagged Fowler out on the steal in the first. Cole was clearly frazzled, but if they took that runner off the base, it could have relaxed him a lot.

  • Football games are played once a week. There are 16 games a year. I'm not even remotely following at all how you can compare the two leagues and playoff systems. It is physically impossible to play a home and away series. The idea of not having any road games in baseball playoffs is certainly a head scratcher.

    How is not having the first and last game at home a benefit for the division winners and team with the best record? How is it not an incentive to win the division when a WC team has to blow their top pitcher?

    Call me lost.

  • Two 97+ win teams in a do-or-die, great bullpens, overpowering starters, plenty of pop--hard to believe that game wouldn't be tense. A 4-0 lead is not a blowout, especially in that situation and with the Cubs' young bullpen. Not only would a defensive play here or there make a difference, but you get the win there also on the home plate umps strike zone (generous strike calls for Arrieta, including a couple Ks), and on Schwarber sitting on the right pitch at the right time.

  • Unbeleivable Dodgers:
    I just noticed the Dodger's payroll today. It is just absurd. $300,000,000+!!
    Here is where just some of their money is for 2015:

    Some "Highlights"
    Carl Crawford $20MM
    Brandon McCarthy $17MM
    Bronson Arroyo $3.5MM
    Darwin B $2.2MM
    Dan Haren $10MM
    Matt Kemp $18MM
    Brian Wilson $10MM
    Ryan Webb $2.2MM
    Dee Gordon $2.5MM

  • So I think tomorrow will be the most important test of how far we can go. We can win it all with two pitchers since Arietta has shown he can carry over his success to the post season. If Lester can be dominant also then I think we can go far no matter how Hendricks or Hammel do.


    And in terms of pitching just went through to see how we could maximize Lester and Arietta and came up with this (Lester would be going on 4 days rest three times and Arietta twice):