Game 160 Thread / Cubs @ Reds (1 of 3)

Game Chat : BR Preview : Game Notes Carlos Zambrano vs. Bronson Arroyo Lineups:
Soriano LF Hopper CF
Kendall C Keppinger SS
Lee 1B Votto 1B
Floyd RF Phillips 2B
Ramirez 3B Encarnacion 3B
DeRosa 2B Valentin C
Jones CF Coats LF
Theriot SS Ellison RF
Zambrano P Arroyo P
The hopes of all Cubdom rest on the broad shoulders of Zambrano, who has pitched well in three of his last four starts. The clinker in that bunch, unfortunately, was a 5-2 loss to the Reds, who have already beaten Carlos four times this season. Zambrano's strikeout numbers are down significantly in '07; he's had particular trouble missing Cincinnati bats (just 11 K in 28 2/3 IP). Importantly, though, Adam Dunn, Ken Griffey, and Josh Hamilton--combined 1.112 OPS against Zambrano this year--are all sitting this one out with injuries. Arroyo, meanwhile, was the Reds starter Monday before last, when the Cubs stormed back against the Cincy bullpen to win 7-6. The curveball-throwin', guitar-strummin' Arroyo is 0-2 with 2 ND's against the Cubs this year, but he has fanned 29 while walking just 10 in 33 2/3 IP. Given the events of the past three days, Zambrano's inconsistency, Arroyo's occasional success against the Cubs, and the dispiriting facts of Chicago Cub history, I think this game shapes up like yet another, tense tug of war. On the other hand, the Reds are severely depleted and have lost five games in a row. And oh, yeah--we do have one of our aces going tonight. In Milwaukee. We're all pulling for you, Greg.


Nice two-hole hitter, Dusty.

I predict Kendall will get hit by a pitch...and they'll find out the pitcher was ordered to do it by Ned Yost

Kendall 3/12 vs Arroyo 250/308/250 fwiw

Guess he wants contact in the 2 spot although generally Kendall does well at getting on-base.

James Monroe was the fifth president of the United States. Tonight, I'll be claiming my fifth RBI in a Cubs uni. Sick.

Fives are wild tonight. My boy Kendall is going to allow five stolen bases too. Sick.

Theriot's gonna come through. He's scrappy.

now this an impressive record...

Ryan Howard surpassed Dunn for most K's in a season and almost 20 less games.

lost in the "humor" of craig monroe is the somewhat sad fact that he is the RH 3-position OF'r. pie never filled the role of a 3-position OF'r, though his arm would probably let him and he's an excessive lefty given team strength anyway.

yeah, he's probably playoff bound outta necessity of tools.

The Cubs are SO going to WIN, tonight.


Ryan Howard:

.265 / .391 / .571 44 HR 130 RBI's

517 AB's - 106 BB's - 197 K's

Adam Dunn:

.264 / .386 / .554 40 HR 106 RBI's

522 AB's - 101 BB's - 165 K's

interesting numbers, wtf are they?

Dunn set the record last year in a 160 games and 683 PA's

Howard set the record this year in 141 games (so far) and 635 PA's.

Oh, lordy, that Arroyo music. I knew it was out there, but never forced myself to listen before. Good god. If only he pitched as crappy as that.

Seriously, Cubs, please, for the love of God and on behalf of music lovers everywhere, hit this guy hard tonight.

I'm supremely confident we will wrap this up today or tomorrow. But, the pressure is the same as the last two days, and a win today is very important. With Harang going tomorrow, we do not want to be only 1 game ahead. Let's win today, and count on the Brewers losing 1 of the next 2 and we'll have it wrapped.

actually my bad Dunn set the record in 2004, 681 PA's and 195 K's

Seth McClung got his suspension wiped out, how'd that happen?

Did he sell out Ned Yost or something?

Crunch, JJ should have been pinch hit for yesterday. Pie could have filled in defensively. We needed plate discipline up there against an erratic Pinto. We needed that run.

It's really sad how Pie's become invisible to Piniella.

I was thinking today about how horrible the bunting has become at the major league level. The epidemic has spread to every team. Imagine if Corey Patterson had actually been a good bunter. Or if Pie was good with it today.

Rob, Craig Monroe was supplying this year's numbers.

Bruce Miles with some Lou love/Dusty bashing

Theriot as co-MVP is a bit much.

I'm pitching for Cincy tonight. Weird. I'm supposed to be the first guy out of the bullpen. I don't quite understand it, but hey! I'm in!

Well, bunting really helps guys like Pierre who hit a lot of groundballs anyway, because it pulls the corner infielders in. Pie and Patterson strike out a lot, so it the first basemen and third basemen can sit in the dugout when they're batting.

yeah, got that they were this year's numbers, didn't understand what you were going for with Dunn's numbers from this season. Whatever...moving on.

You can just go by Mike from your blog fwiw -


I was thinking today, that if the Cubs win, and then Maddux beats the Brewers, the answer to the trivia question 'who was the winning pitcher when the Cubs clinched the division in 2007' would be Greg Maddux.

Craig Monroe is the Bad News Cubs guy?


Bunting was once a legitimate weapon in baseball, when used correctly. It's a shame few of the speedsters are skilled with it anymore.

Rob, I wasn't making a point with the Howard/Dunn numbers. They're just interesting. Very similar outside of RBI's and K's.

re #23

I love how you got busted and now try to act like a human.


no worries Mike, Cubs just got me antsy these days.

I'll drink to what Chad said.

top 3 batters in lineup for houston.

Think they have some kinda bet on who ends the season with the highest average?

according to, every position player on the Reds 40-man roster is with the team.

Seems a bit excessive.

Just saw a Ward interview on Cubs pregame...

Says his thumb does hurt, but he is available to PH tonight. Said he was available to the best of his understanding, which was contradictory to a report Rob posted earlier.

"Seems a bit excessive."

eh, why not for the last weekend of the season?

just regurgitated a Sun-Times blurb

The Cubs could be without their top pinch hitter for the final regular-season series, depending on how quickly Daryle Ward recovers from a sprain near the base of his left thumb.

Ward, who suffered the injury sliding into second base after legging out a double Wednesday night, wore a splint and heavy wrap Thursday that went halfway up his forearm.

The usually affable Ward didn't want to talk about the injury. He's batting .330, including 11-for-40 (.275) as a pinch hitter.

guess it healed quickly....

Actually Chad, I acted like a human yesterday. But, if my site need be plugged so be it. I'll thank Rob. Fans can find excellent Cubs content here:
(If that doesn't show up, the link is above.)

The site viewership is indeed growing.

I just wanted to stop by for old times, 2004 was a special year... In Dusty We Trusty!!! That was the year we learned the importance of the leadoff man... and that you never force a setup man to close if he isn't made for it.

This is the year we learned defense at catcher, and its grave importance.

Damn, it was fun going as Craig Mac for a bit... for those who remember the rapper.

It's also nice to see Arizona Phil going strong... the greatest presence in the Cubs blogging world.

"Uy uy uy… The Fucking Florida Marlins"

It's Oy, oy, oy. FWIW

Chad, (laughing)... I'm in the family also... and have never pronounced the excessive 'oy' sound. When I say it, it phonetically sounds like 'uy'. But, I appreciate the tip.

"guess it healed quickly…."
Do we know he is available?

it's "tribe" not "family" FWIW


Funny, blockhead. Are you referring to the culture or the religion? Er...

Is that a trick question?

For what it's worth, I too am part of the family/tribe/religion/culture.

It's the sound of one hand clapping.

Interesting lineup.

One down, five more Runs to go for Soriano to reach 100.

Reds announcers talking about Carlos Zambrano looking like his pitches are slower and his arm angle lower than earlier this year. But as we all remember, that was his problem in the spring.

Wow, Florida jumps right out to a 2-0 lead vs. the Mets.

Need a lot of runs tonight.

For gosh sakes' make Arroyo throw a lot of pitches and make him work. Let's grind out some ABs.

I can't believe I pay for the privilege of watching ads for 'The FInal Season' every 10 minutes.

oh oh, Z is getting all wobbly

I hate it when that happens

Gotta love those outfield assists from Soriano!

Oh Yeah! DLee!

Breathing normally now

"Seth McClung got his suspension wiped out, how’d that happen?"


It looked likes according to the AP that McClung proved to MLB he sucks as a pitcher.;_ylt=Aow634S...

Z's pitch count way down. Perhaps he can go deep in this game.

Milwaukee up 2-0

Big strikeout to end the 6th. Attaboy Big Z.

Padres now up 3-2 in the 4th.

Forgot to mention. Capuano pitching

Jones's ball to left answers a question from earlier in the season: yes, Coats plays the wall like a converted infielder.

In other news, Bruce Froemming can still bite me. Runner at 1st, 1 down, grounder to third, nice throw gets the runner by a half-step, but the ump who should have retired a long time ago called him safe - so 1st and 2nd, 1 down, instead of runner at 2nd, 2 down.

Maddog gets Braun to ground into a DP to end the threat...



Do you like Ramstein?


What do you think about this? When it happens?

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  • crunch 5 hours 31 sec ago view
  • My guy Addy

    jacos 5 hours 1 min ago view
  • oh, another a.russell HR...whatever.

    crunch 5 hours 15 min ago view
  • Dylan Cease throwing gas tonight for the Emeralds. In first three innings, has hit 100 mph six times, averaging 98 mph

    Eric S 5 hours 34 min ago view
  • Can I get a gif of Joe West's jowls waving as he chews gum?

    /Asking for a friend

    jacos 5 hours 57 min ago view
  • my gawd...that castillo-to-bryant pickoff was a thing of beauty. the knock on him in the minors being slow out of the crouch is looking less like a thing.

    crunch 6 hours 9 min ago view
  • bless your heart. *pinches cheeks*

    crunch 11 hours 6 min ago view
  • real shame I missed this week's episode of The Crunch Reporter.

    It's highly unusual.

    It does matter a little.

    It matters much less than you think.



    Rob G. 11 hours 8 min ago view
  • four winds field is awesome. it's crazy how minor league parks have "grown up" since the 80s/90s and that park was one of the late-80s models that showed a low-capacity ballpark could look like you're at something other than a highschool baseball game.

    crunch 12 hours 14 min ago view
  • On another topic....I returned to South Bend last night for the 2nd time this season (still haven't tried either the deep-fried mac & cheese sandwich nor "The Porknado", as the drive home is over an hour and that could get ugly), and was pleasantly surprised to find D. Underwood pitching in a rehab start. He looked good -- although, to be fair, these are low-A hitters -- fastball consistently at 94-95 (if the SB scoreboard is to be believed -- several pitches were clocked in the 30s...) and with good location.

    billybucks 13 hours 22 min ago view
  • he gains nothing, no advantage, no saving of resources, nothing...there is not a cost/benefit tradeoff...him letting the running game go on around him for others to control isn't gaining him an advantage elsewhere. it's putting him at a disadvantage even if it's not cashed in with a run.

    crunch 16 hours 2 min ago view
  • And out of respect for the rest of TCR, I'm done on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the other camp, but time to let it go. (Until the next Lester start. I kid.)


    Tito 16 hours 6 min ago view
  • He is putting himself at a disadvanage. But how much of one relative to the rest of his game? He's not Justin Germano -- he's inarguably one of the best SPs in baseball, issue or not. It would be more of thing to discuss ad nauseum if it constantly caused him to give up runs and lose games. But it doesn't.


    Tito 16 hours 15 min ago view
  • shouting down my points about lester with "well, it didn't hurt" is like saying it doesn't matter if a guy starts out walking 3 guys every inning as long it's followed by a K and a double play.

    it's like elevating ERA and wins to a high level while ignoring what it took to get there.

    crunch 16 hours 21 min ago view
  • I'm asking how much it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this year. Do you have that answer?

    I legitimately don't recall you answering that quesion, apart from the condescending silliness you just posted. So if you did answer specifically about the impact of Lester's issue, I'd like to re-read it. Thanks.


    Tito 16 hours 34 min ago view
  • if runner = on base and pitcher = j.lester then lead = large

    if lead = large then probability of extra base on following hit > average of mean

    okay, enough of that silliness... can read more on the thread i copy/pasted this from the last time you decided you needed to talk to me about me.

    crunch 16 hours 41 min ago view