They're Fitchin' to Get Started
With Cubs pitchers & catchers scheduled to report to Fitch Park in Mesa this week, and with position players scheduled to report next week, let's take a quick look at the Cubs 2008 Spring Training roster:
2008 CUBS SPRING TRAINING ROSTER
59 players will be in camp
39 on MLB reserve list (40-MAN ROSTER)
20 Non-Roster Invitees (NRI)
(40-MAN ROSTER/NRI in parenthesis):
31 Pitchers (23/8)
6 Catchers (2/4)
12 Infielders (7/5)
10 Outfielders (7/3)
* bats or throws left
# bats both
PITCHERS ON 40-MAN ROSTER (23):
* Neal Cotts
* Scott Eyre
* Rich Hill
* Ted Lilly
* Sean Marshall
* Carmen Pignatiello
PROJECTED 2008 PAYROLL (as of 2-10-2008)
NOTE: $$$/$$$ = Major league salary/"minor league split" salary
SIGNED FOR 2008:
Henry Blanco - $2.8M
Neal Cotts - $800K + $75K in performance bonuses
Ryan Dempster - $5.5M + $800K in performance bonuses
Mark DeRosa - $3.75M
Scott Eyre - $3.8M + $300K in performance bonuses
Kosuke Fukudome – $12M
Bob Howry - $4M
Derrek Lee - $13M
Jon Lieber - $3.5M
Ted Lilly - $7M
Jason Marquis - $6.375M
Aramis Ramirez - $14M
Jeff Samardzija - $850K/$600K
Alfonso Soriano - $13M
Daryle Ward – $1.2M
Kerry Wood - $4.2M + $3.45M in performance bonuses
Michael Wuertz - $860K
Carlos Zambrano - $15M
TOTAL - $111.5M (plus $5.13M in potential performance bonuses)
Jacque Jones (traded to DET) - Cubs agreed to pay the $1M remaining from Jones' deferred signing bonus (due no later than January 2008), plus $2M of Jones' 2008 salary.
AUTO-RENEWAL (PRE-ARBITRATION) FOR 2008
NOTE: Minor League "split" salary must be at least 60% of player's actual paid salary from previous season
All of these salaries are "guesstimates"
$$$/$$$ = Likely 2008 MLB salary/Likely 2008 “minor league split” salary
Jose Ascanio – $392.5K/$62.5K
Ronny Cedeno – $410K/$165K (out of minor league options)
Mike Fontenot – $405K/$150K
Jake Fox – $392.5K/$62.5K
Sam Fuld – $392.5K/$62.5K
Sean Gallagher – $392.5K/$62.5K
Angel Guzman – $395K/$220K
Adam Harben – $390K/$62.5K
Kevin Hart – $392.5K/$62.5K
Rich Hill – $430K/$220K
Tim Lahey – $390K/$31,125
Carlos Marmol – $420K/$180K
Sean Marshall – $415K/$215K
Juan Mateo – $392.5K/$120K
Matt Murton – $425K/$225K
Eric Patterson – $390K/$62.5K
Billy Petrick – $392.5K/$62.5K
Felix Pie – $400K/$150K
Carmen Pignatiello – 392.5/$62.5K
Geovany Soto – $395K/$62.5K (out of minor league options)
Ryan Theriot – $420K/$235K
ELIGIBLE TO BE FREE-AGENT AFTER 2008:
Henry Blanco (vesting option or else club option with buy-out for 2009)
Scott Eyre (has limited “no trade” through 2008)
Jon Lieber (has automatic Type XX FA “no trade” rights through 6-15-2008)
Kerry Wood (has automatic Type XX FA “no trade” rights through 6-15-2008, but he will also get automatic 10/5 “no trade” rights beginning on the third day of the 2008 season)
SIGNED BEYOND 2008:
Mark DeRosa ($5.5M in 2009, then FA)
Jason Marquis ($9.875M in 2009, then FA)
Derrek Lee ($13M in 2009 and 2010, then FA – has full “no trade” through 2010)
Ted Lilly ($12M in 2009 and 2010, then FA)
Kosuke Fukudome ($12M in 2009, 2010, and 2011, then FA).
Jeff Samardzija (thru 2011 + mutual options for 2012 & 2013 – has full “no trade” through 2011)
2012: $3M (mutual option - player can opt out only if he is eligible for salary arbitration)
2013: $3.5M (mutual option - player can opt out only if he is eligible for salary-arbitration)
Aramis Ramirez ($15.65M in 2009 and $15.75M in 2010, $14.6M 2011 player option, and $16M 2012 mutual option with $2M buy-out – has full “no trade” in contract through 2010, but he will also get automatic 10/5 “no trade” rights beginning in June 2009)
Carlos Zambrano ($17.75M in 2009, $17.875 in 2010 and 2011, and $18M in 2012, plus $19.25M 2013 vesting-player option – has full “no trade” in contract through 2011, but he also will get automatic 10/5 “no trade” rights beginning in August 2010).
Alfonso Soriano ($13M in 2008, $16M in 2009, and $18M 2010 through 2014, then FA – has full “no trade” through 2014)
PROJECTED ELIGIBLE FOR SALARY-ARBITRATION POST-2008:
Rich Hill (projected 2+149 MLB ST post-2008 – almost certainly will qualify for salary arbitration as a “Super Two”)
Sean Marshall (projected 2+132 MLB ST post-2008 – could qualify for salary arbitration as a “Super Two” - see COMMENT below)
NOTE: Post-2008 salary arbitration projections are based on each player spending entire 2008 season in MLB.
COMMENT: If Sean Marshall were to spend at least 20 days on Optional Assignment to the minors in 2008, he almost certainly would NOT be eligible for salary arbitration as a “Super Two” post-2008. (The threshold for “Super Two” status has never been less than 2+125 MLB ST).
However, if Marshall spends 19 days or less on Optional Assignment in 2008, or if he spends at least 20 days on optional assignment but not more than ten days in succession, he will accrue a full season of MLB Service Time, and thus he could very possibly qualify for salary arbitration as a “Super Two” post-2008.
So to avoid the possibility of Marshall qualifying as a “Super Two” post-2008, the Cubs would be smart to option Marshall to the minors for at least 20 days in succession, probably right at the start of the season coming out of Spring Training.
MINOR LEAGUE OPTION STATUS (SPRING TRAINING 2008):
* Certain players must first clear Optional Assignment Waivers (see COMMENT below)
Tim Lahey (see NOTE-1)
NOTE-1: Tim Lahey can be sent to the minors by the Cubs only after clearing Rule 6 return waivers (which are irrevocable), and then Lahey’s original organization (MIN) also must decline to reclaim player (MLB Rule 6 outlines the method for removing a player selected in Rule 5 Draft from club’s 40-man roster). Look for Lahey to eventually be the PTBNL in the Craig Monroe deal (with the Twins satisfying their PTBNL obligations by declining to reclaim Lahey after he clears Rule 6 return waivers).
NO MINOR LEAGUE OPTIONS LEFT:
ONE MINOR LEAGUE OPTION LEFT:
* Neal Cotts (see COMMENT below)
* Angel Guzman (see NOTE-2 and COMMENT below)
* Michael Wuertz (see COMMENT below)
NOTE-2: Angel Guzman has used three minor league options, but because he has not completed five “full seasons” on an active minor league or major league roster through the 2007 season, he gets a 4th minor league option, as long as it is used prior to completing five full seasons. (Guzman will likely spend most or all of the 2008 season on the DL rehabbing from TJ surgery, so he will almost certainly have the 4th minor league option available again in 2009).
TWO MINOR LEAGUE OPTIONS LEFT:
Jose Ascanio (see NOTE-3)
NOTE-3: Jose Ascanio has used two minor league options, but because he has spent only three “full seasons” on an active minor league or major league roster, he will be eligible for a 4th minor league option, as long as it is used prior to completing five full seasons.
THREE MINOR LEAGUE OPTIONS LEFT:
Billy Petrick (see NOTE-3)
Jeff Samardzija (see NOTE-4)
NOTE-3: Billy Petrick has used one minor league option, but because he has spent only two “full seasons” on an active minor league or major league roster, he will be eligible for a 4th minor league option as long as it is used prior to completing five full seasons.
NOTE-4: Jeff Samardzija has used one minor league option, but because he has spent only one “full season” on an active minor league or major league roster, he will be eligible for a 4th minor league option as long as it is used prior to completing five full seasons.
COMMENT: Players with at least three years of MLB service time or players who have been previously outrighted in their career can refuse an Outright Assignment to the minors, and players with at least five years of MLB service time can refuse an Optional Assignment to the minors.
There are also certain players with less than five years of MLB service time who must first clear MLB Optional Assignment Waivers before they can be optioned to the minors. Players reach this point when they hit the third anniversary of being added to a regular season 25-man roster, or the two-year anniversary if the player spent one full season on optional assignment to the minors prior to being added to a 25-man regular season roster for the first time, or the one-year anniversary if the player spent two full seasons on optional assignment to the minors prior to being added to a 25-man regular season roster for the first time.
Optional Assignment Waivers are revocable the first time they are requested in a given waiver period, and irrevocable the second time they are requested in the same waiver period. The waivers can be requested at any time, and the club does not necessarily have to option the player to the minors once the player clears waivers, because once a player clears Optional Assignment Waivers, the waivers are good for the entire waiver period. Because these waivers are revocable, getting a player through Optional Assignment Waivers is usually just a formality, but another GM could make a nuisance claim if he were so inclined.
So a smart GM should place those players who require Optional Assignment Waivers before they can be optioned to the minors on waivers right at the beginning of each waiver period to avoid getting in a bind later in that waiver period, when the player’s spot on the 25-man roster might suddenly be needed (and that would probably the one time when a rival GM might consider putting in a “blocking” claim that wouldn’t be based on pure nuisance).
As of Spring Training 2008, Neal Cotts, Angel Guzman, and Michael Wuertz are the only three players on the Cubs 40-man roster with less than five years of MLB service time who must first clear Optional Assignment Waivers before they can be optioned to the minors. However, Mike Fontenot will require Optional Assignment Waivers as of April 11 (and since that is during the waiver period that runs from February 16th through the 30th day of the regular season, Fontenot should be placed on Optional Assignment Waivers right along with Cotts, Guzman, and Wuertz on February 16), and then Rich Hill (June 15th) and Matt Murton (July 7th) will reach the point where they will require Optional Assignment Waivers during the waiver period that runs from the 31st day of the regular season through July 31st.
who knows where it'll end up. they have a decent amount of excess/blocked infielders as well as c.coghlan if they want to make him expendable...so there's value to get something done while keeping soler, even.
it's a bit more muddy now that cueto is the only "hell yeah" FA pitcher left out there.
Yes great bat, but very shaky in the field during the playoffs. That won't go unnoticed by this Cubs front office.
I would hope not.
I fear the Shark will return.
So how did the Orioles GM stay cool and collected during that conversation. I imagine he was biting his knuckles quite a bit until the phones hung up.
I realize they need to get pitching, but I'd hate to see Soler go. He was channeling Manny in the playoffs -- laying off the low & away stuff and crushing the ball. If he can keep that plate discipline, he could be an absolute beast. Also, his perfect throw may have saved the Cardinals series. Plus, he wears #68.
Dunno - maybe Shark/Lackey?
YES! A 2-way tie for first! I am willing to split the pot right now.
That is pretty fucking dumb.
"The Seattle Mariners have agreed to trade slugger Mark Trumbo to the Baltimore Orioles in exchange for catcher Steve Clevenger, a source confirmed to ESPN's Jim Bowden."
yeah, that steve clevenger.
St Louis offered $30MM less than Toronto...so around $185MM or $26MM per year. When those type of numbers and details are released, it is rarely just pulled out of thin air. Sounds pretty legit that they put up a bit of a fight.
Where did you get 30ish number?
Close second to Ronny
Dumber than Ronny Cedeno?
runner-up seems to be as strong as in the bidding as it gets aside from winning the bid.
STL has money to spend, but how much they were willing to spend was up in the air...and now they threw around a 30m-ish offer to a top FA pitcher.
You believe they were in the bidding, I have an ice rink on Clark to sell you
Oh God, no Adam Eaton he's dummber than a bag of wet hair. keep him awsy