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YOUR 2007 AVERAGE BATTING PARTNERS (ABPs)
By Lawhide
Being bored recently, I decided to work on some statistical tomfoolery: I decided to find out who was the ABP for each Cubs pitcher in the majors. What’s an ABP? I took the OBP- and SLG-against for each pitcher and tried to find the most comparable 2007 MLB hitter. For instance, batters hitting against Will Ohman in 2007 hit a line of .355 OBP and .436 SLG (an OPS-against of .791). Luis Gonzalez (the old one) hit .359/.433/.792 this year, making him Will Ohman’s Average Batting Partner, or ABP.
Keep in mind that there’s not really any useful statistical information in an exercise like this, it’s purely for fun (at least, fun for those of us who are into the numbers side of things). That being said, here are your 2007 Cubs Pitcher ABPs.
| CUB | Carlos Zambrano | .329 | .372 | .701 |
| ABP | Nomar Garciaparra | .328 | .371 | .699 |
There was a time where having Nomar as your ABP would make you a candidate for highest SLG-against in the league, but 2007 saw the man who slugged over .500 seven times in the last ten years hit only 7 home runs. Previously, Nomar’s lowest SLG was in his injury shortened stint with the Cubs in 2005 (aka “Groingate”) where he still slugged for a respectable .452
Nomar’s batting average this year was .283, while Big Z’s BA-against was .233, a full fifty points lower. However, I decided against including batting average in this exercise because I’m a scout-hating, Harvard-graduating*, Billy Beane-worshipping pencil-neck geek (sarcasm fully intended).
| CUB | Ted Lilly | .286 | .406 | .692 |
| ABP | Danny Richar | .289 | .406 | .695 |
Danny Richar only had 206 PAs for the crosstown White Sox in 2007, his rookie year. With Tad Iguchi gone, he appears to be leading in the running for the starting 2B job, as his minor league numbers project improvement on his first taste of the majors, but he doesn’t project into anything special. If Ted Lilly’s making the average batter look like a middling rookie middle infielder, I’ll take it.
| CUB | Jason Marquis | .335 | .409 | .744 |
| CUB | Angel Guzman | .339 | .409 | .748 |
| ABP | Kaz Matsui | .342 | .405 | .747 |
Marquis and DL-mainstay Guzman share almost-Cub Kazuo Matsui as their ABP, This is a good example of how useless this exercise really is, since the two pitchers have really nothing else in common in terms of pitching style and pitching stats. But its good to know that Matsui is going to be around our division next year to help Marquis keep up his trend of lots of groundballs and too many walks.
| CUB | Rich Hill | .305 | .394 | .699 |
| ABP | Richie Sexson | .295 | .399 | .694 |
Like Nomar, Richie Sexson’s power disappeared off the face of the earth in 2007, the only season EVER where he slugged under .500. But as they say, one Richie’s dregs are another Rich’s riches… or something like that**. Sexson also hit for an average of .205, thirty points below what Rich Hill’s opponents hit.
| CUB | Sean Marshall | .326 | .424 | .750 |
| ABP | Jason Bay | .327 | .418 | .745 |
Notice a trend? Well, it’s just coincidence, but Bay, like Nomar and Sexson above, lost his bang in 2007 after slugging well over .500 in every season before. Just as notable, his OBP dropped into average territory, below .400 for only the second time in his career (.358 in 2004). However, this is largely a product of his .247 batting average. Bay was an average hitter this year, and Sean Marshall was a comparable average pitcher. I think Jim Hendry should use this information and make an even swap with the Bucs (oh right, Littlefield works for us now. Damn).
Here’s the rest of the gang:
| CUB | Bob Howry | .292 | .377 | .669 |
| ABP | Jay Payton | .292 | .376 | .668 |
| CUB | Michael Wuertz | .320 | .392 | .712 |
| ABP | Elijah Dukes | .318 | .391 | .709 |
I’m a big Wuertz fan, so I was sorry to see his ABP be Dukes. He shouldn’t be anyone’s partner in anything.
| CUB | Carlos Marmol | .282 | .226 | .508 |
| ABP | Andy Gonzalez | .280 | .249 | .529 |
No, I hadn’t heard of him either. He plays for the White Sox. Marmol’s ABP was tough because there aren’t that many players who have an OBP that low, and a SLG even lower, and who don’t end up as car salesmen.
| CUB | Ryan Dempster | .323 | .394 | .717 |
| ABP | Melky Cabrera | .327 | .391 | .718 |
| CUB | Scott Eyre | .399 | .433 | .832 |
| ABP | Ichiro! | .396 | .431 | .827 |
| CUB | Kerry Wood | .310 | .299 | .609 |
| ABP | Robert Fick | .309 | .305 | .614 |
I didn’t bother to find the ABPs for the Cubs pitchers who faced less than 100 batters. Except for one:
| CUB | Steve Trachsel | .416 | .647 | 1.063 |
| ABP | Alex Rodriguez | .422 | .645 | 1.067 |
Hey, to be fair to Trax, ARod hit .368 this year, and Trachsel held hitters to a Mendoza-esque .314 during his brief stay at Wrigley.
Oh, whoops. Scratch that and reverse it.
-LH
*Lawhide did not actually go to Harvard.
**Lawhide hears your groans and apologizes.
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i wonder how long until i.stewart asks to be traded...if for no other reason than to get ABs on someone else's AAA team
yet another day he didn't start...got a PH appearance, 0-1.
also, josh vitters continues to be unimpressive, 0-4.
b.bogusevic continues to make a joke of AAA...1-2 (HR) with 3bb...(.370/.475 avg/ob%)
"My right big toe is kind of sore, why do you ask?"
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Somewhere in the Cubs locker room, Bill Murray chimes in...
"an Army without leaders is like a foot without a big toe"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtbBmwgxKc0
I wonder how what converstion went.
"Hey Shawn, do you have anything that hurts?"
"My right big toe is kind of sore, why do you ask?"
i'm not sure the author of that report knows what "lights-out" reliever means.
if he means a reliever with spotty control that will throw 20+ pitches an inning in AAA is "lights-out" i wonder how high the praise goes for someone that deserves it.
he's got good velocity at least. he's worth taking a chance on.
s.camp on the DL (evidently sucking is an injury these days) with a "sprained right big toe" (no, seriously)...r.dolis up
File this under the banner of how's the Cubs organizational depth coming along...
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Must have stubbed that toe throwing the grand slam last night. How convenient.
per Roto...
But for 2013 the Cubs rotation depth is greatly improved.
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JB: I completely agree about the 2013 improvement.
In fact, the debacle that was 2012 was accelerated when Maholm/Dempster/Garza were gone which is a tough nut to crack for any team. If the trade deadline subtracts 2 starters this year from the Cubs they likely will have Villanueva and even Scott Baker should be ready by then...and if not then one AAA guy (Rusin, Vizcaino).
But for 2013 the Cubs rotation depth is greatly improved. Villanueva just shifted to the bullpen, Rusin is pitching well enough in Iowa that a half-dozen MLB teams would promote him today to their rotations, and this is all in spite of the total washout that is Scott Baker.
As for the Cardinals, they called up Tyler Lyons. His control will keep him in games, but I don't think he's about to embark a Hall of Fame career.
per mlbtr...StL starting lefty, Jaime Garcia to undergo shoulder labrum repair after seeing Dr. Andrews and is out for the rest of the year. Some quote about Andrews surprised to see how well Garcia was pitching given how large (40%) the labral tear is.
We can measure how far the Cubs system is working by injuries like this, just watch how well Garcia's replacement in the rotation does. In 2011-12 the Cubs would be bringing up Justin Germano, Jason Berken, Chris Volstad or Rodrigo Lopez. Webster had a pic of RodLo in its definition of hitting rock bottom.
Right thing to do, thanks 54 best LB in Bears history
Side note I was at Kerry Wood's & Urlacher's last games (Seattle )
Can't wait to get my Bulls opener tix
Urlacher retiring from NFL
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/9301402/...
Cubs prioritize Vitters' development over Stewart
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130521&c...
Dave Duncan has took a leave of absence back in January 2012 (wife has cancer). So I don't know how much he's around these days.
Something to keep in mind about Michael Bowden, is that even if he clears waivers, he can refuse an Outright Assignment to the minors & elect free-ageny because he has been outrighted previously in his career.
JOHN B: Exactly. I think if the Cubs make a deal with the Rangers, it's Texas who would want some of the Cubs ISBP value, not the other-way around.
And remember too that the best 16-year old international prospects usually sign right at the start of the ISP on July 2nd, so there could be a flurry of trades on July 2 that would allow a club like the Rangers to add ISBP values that would enable them to sign the #1 Venezuelan or Dominican prospect.
JOHN B: 2012-13 International Signing Bonus Pool (ISBP) values ($2.9M per club) CANNOT be traded, and 2013-14 ISBP values (which are divided into 1/4 values of unequal amounts and which vary depending on the club's 2012 winning percentage ranking) cannot be traded until the start of the 2013-14 International Signing Period (ISP) on July 2nd. (The 2012-13 ISP closes on June 15th, and no international players can be signed during the period of time extending from June 16 to July 1.