2007 Batting Order Results

Or, how Baseball-Reference will be the death of me

 

The latest ridiculously interesting tool released by baseball-reference.com is its Batting Order Position Outcomes page. Plug in a team, a year, and a position in the batting order, and it will break down that position's results by the player batting in that slot.

 

For instance, did you know that on the 2007 Cubs team, Cesar Izturis logged the most games (41) and plate appearances (154) in the 8th spot in the order? He put up a .254/.314/.300/.614 line while hitting 8th, and the Cubs went 18-23 in games where he batted 8th. With Koyie Hill hitting 8th, the Cubs went an impressive 14-7. No thanks to Hill, necessarily, who hit .141/. 203/.211/.414 in those games. In stark contrast to Hill, Ronny Cedeno hit .368/.369/.737/1.052 in nine games there, and the Cubs went 2-7.

 

Other interesting but perhaps entirely meaningless discoveries include...

In April, when the Cubs went 10-14, our number 2 hitters put up a line of .279/.330/.356/.686.

  • In July, when the Cubs went 17-9, our number 2 hitters put up a line of .340/.423/.423/.846

Fifteen different Cubs batted 2nd last year. In order of at bats, they were:

Ryan Theriot

Jacque Jones

Mike Fontenot

Felix Pie

Mark DeRosa

Cliff Floyd

Angel Pagan

Cesar Izturis

Matt Murton

Jason Kendall

Ronny Cedeno

Jason Marquis

Carlos Zambrano

Carlos Marmol

Koyie Hill

Theriot had the most Plate Appearances hitting 2nd in April, May, July and September. In June, it was Pie followed by Fontenot, and in August it was Jones holding the top spot.

  • June was the month of Godenot, when he hit .436/.463/.692/.1156 from the 2 hole, and the Cubs went 7-2 in those games

While Jones put up a very clutch .357/.379/.589/.969 line hitting second in September, the Cubs went just 6-7 in those games.

  • The only hitter who saw the Cubs win more than they lost with him hitting second in September was Mark DeRosa. The Cubs went 2-1 with him hitting 2nd in September, and he hit .583/.615/.667/1.282 in those three games.

Another interesting position is 5th. Cliff Floyd and Derosa saw 161 and 156 PAs, respectively, with Murton and Barrett seeing an additional 80 and 76.

By Month, Barrett was the primary 5 hitter in April and May, then Derosa in June and July, Floyd in August and Matt Murton in September.

  • Barrett had a terrific April hitting 5th, with a line of .368/.419/.711/.1.129 in those games, and the Cubs going 6-4. (He followed it up with a .340 OPS in May)
  • Murton went.394/.444/.636/1.081 in September, and the Cubs again went 6-4 in those games.

In the second half of the season, our number five hitters tore it up against teams below the .500 mark, hitting them at a .276/.338/.503/.840 clip, while the team went 31-20.

  • But against teams with records of .500 or better, the five-hole hitters saw a big drop in slugging, going .267/.347/.344/.691, and the team went 10-14.

By month, our most productive lineup spot went:

April: 3rd spot, .394/.464/.545/1.010

May: 6th spot, .311/.385/.495/.880

June: 1st spot, .333/.376/.691/1.067

July: 4th spot, .374/.393/.542/.935

August: 7th spot, .358/.414/.472/.885

September: 3rd spot, .357/.426/.678/1.105

  • with honorable mentions to the 1st spot at .300/.338/.708/1.046, and the 4, 5, and 6 spots all putting up OPS's in the mid-.900s in September.

I think (but am not certain) that eventually, the Batting Order Position Outcomes stuff will migrate to the new premium section of b-r, which requires a subscription fee. Tool around there and tell me what other weird things you can find!

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  • In all seriousness the Cubs have the fewest amount of games played in the NL which means they're gonna be facing quite the grind later on including 24 games in a row at the end of June and beginning of July so I hope he does get a few days off.

    johann 32 min 8 sec ago view
  • Meh. He only got one hit today. Maybe give him a rest?

    Old and Blue 1 hour 7 min ago view
  • 34-14...awww yeah.

    crunch 2 hours 4 min ago view
  • Good thing the Cubs have five left-handed batters in the lineup. Velasquez is just tearing thru the righties [edit - doesn't seem to faze Bryant!]

    Eric S 3 hours 25 min ago view
  • ben zobrist gets to ride up front tonight cause he's a good guy at sports.

    cubs with a 5 run lead and a lackey shutout through 3ip \m/

    crunch 3 hours 59 min ago view
  • HAGSAG: I have not seen Joe Nathan out on the field, but he is supposedly at the UAPC. 

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 55 min ago view
  • ERIC S: Best outing I've ever seen from Manny Rondon, and I've seen most of his outings since the Cubs got him from the Angels. 

    M. Rondon is competing with six others (Dylan Cease, Bryan Hudson, Jose Paulino, Pedro Silverio, Jesus Castillo, and Erling Moreno) for a starting slot at Eugene, and (as you can probably tell from the EXST box scores)  the competition has gotten fierce over the last couple of weeks, With the exception of Moreno, the Eugene SP candidates have upped their game lately, and M. Rondon's outing yesterday was especially impressive/dominating. 

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 58 min ago view
  • E-MAN: Pierce Johnsion was mixing a 92-94 MPH fastball with a plus-change-up AND curve, and he threw strike-after-strike-after-strike with all three of his pitches. I believe that was the best command and pitch-efficiency I've ever seen from Johnson, who often pitches from behind in the count and issues too many walks.  

    Of course now he has to avoid a recurrence of the lat strain (whch he has had previously in his career) as well as all of the other miscellaneous physical problems he's had over the last three years (hamstring, quad, back, etc).  

    Arizona Phil 7 hours 7 min ago view
  • PHIL: Any movement on P. Johnsons pitches? What was his "out" pitch? I know he was working on a 4th pitch, so wondering what he is looking like these days. Thanks.

    The E-Man 7 hours 50 min ago view
  • AZ Phil, has Nathan showed up in Mesa yet? Thanks.

    Hagsag 12 hours 36 min ago view
  • Eickhoff looks like a good young pitcher. Lets steal him!

    Hagsag 12 hours 37 min ago view
  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 22 hours 18 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 1 day 1 hour ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 1 day 1 hour ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 1 day 1 hour ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 1 day 1 hour ago view