Baseball Prospectus, Condensed For Your At-Work Reading
What the latest Baseball Prospectus annual has to say about the Cubs, minus all those pesky numbers and the obscure historical and literary allusions:
"...Cedeno's is a tried and true skill set–the same one that's earning Orlando Cabrera millions of dollars every season..."
"...has experienced a steady decline in his groundball rates over the past three seasons...coupled with command that was never very good to begin with..."
"If the Cubs bring in a Brian Roberts-type...the gains will be less than they might appear at first glance."
"An inspired acquisition...a J.D. Drew/Bobby Abreu type of player..."
"...Hill's probably going to need to work on (a pitch in addition to his curveball) if he wants to be an ace instead of a very solid number two."
"...probably the Cubs' best relief pitcher entering the season, at least when the wind is blowing in."
"Expect a little more in the home run department, but perhaps a little less of everything else."
"...his should prove to be one of the best contracts signed between the 2006 and 2007."
"To build on his breakout season, Marmol will have to rely less on his fastball and...work on throwing his good curveball down in the zone."
"...a borderline liability for a team that aspires to make the playoffs."
"...a ton of upside here...(the Cubs) need to make a commitment to him as a big-league regular..."
"...one of the most underappreciated stars of the NL."
"...a very good player who sometimes gets mistaken for a great one."
"...one of the more valuable prospects in baseball...already the best catcher in the division..."
"...overrated for a variety of reasons...the Cubs need to upgrade at shortstop."
"Don't expect miracles...should be a decent major-league reliever."
"...(has) finally developed decent command over (his) slippery, slidey arsenal..."
"...a pitcher of legendary durability, but...probably closer to a number two than a true ace in most other respects."
The Cub offense is in on the con.
1-for-10 so far w/RISP.
swing and a miss.
i'm gonna like...go stand over there. *points*
This is all a long con by Arrieta to lull playoff opponents.
the factual correction on your mistakes on your post that I barely bothered to read the first time because it had nothing to do with anything I wanted to talk about is indeed a sign of my degenerative brain condition. I appreciate the safety tip and will be looking into with extreme urgency now.
it took you 4 posts to get to this?
have you checked the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector?
Fwiw, Billy Hamilton's actual WAR numbers that relate to the ones that I posted for Mike Trout are:
- 2014: 2.5
- 2015: 1.0
- 2016: 2.6
But by all means #crunchsplain on the stupidity of WAR while exaggerating your points. I can't wait to read more.
Thanks for the awesome give and take today and for the 535 words you spilled filling in all the gaps that I woefully neglected. We're all a little wiser and better for it. I look forward to your play-by-play summary later in the comments.
it was about a post comparing players based on WAR...and comparing WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...a post that you made...and i made a comment...that talked about D weighting of WAR...and comparinging WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...etc etc...
hell, we didn't even get in deep. i didn't even involve UZR or FIP versions and their strengths/weaknesses...or position mandated "handicapping" in points...etc.
let's not talk about that...cool, fine, awesome. context sucks. san dimas highschool football rules.
Thanks for shining a light on this very important topic and steering it away from the frivolity that was the awesomenes of Mike Trout, but moreso on the foolishness of WAR as a metric to judge the value of center fielders. We're all a little wiser now and your contributions are invaluable to this community and to America's pastime. God Bless!
so...what's chan-yong lim up to these days?
yes, those hamilton WAR numbers are very reasonable. i'm on your side now based on that biting commentary and reasoning of why he's a 3.5-ish WAR player over a 600 PA season.
those numbers are obviously well deserved and worthy of no scrutiny...none at all. no issue.
CF D is rarer than a jon lester pickoff at 2nd...totally irreplaceable...no way in hell there's good D, low/no-hitting CF's in anyone's system that could do what hamilton is doing. guys like this don't exist...you get like, 2-3 at any given time in history.
Please do not discuss War here. I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.
But yes, whether you support War or Peace...Mike Trout is ridiculously consistent and good.