Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
The Cubs rallied for two runs in the bottom of the 9th to tie the game, only to see Gabe Gross key a Brew Crew four-spot in the top of the 10th with a PH HR, as the Brewers defeated the Cubs 10-6 before 9,977 fans on a sunny 70-degree day at Mesa’s HoHoKam Park.
Ryan Dempster got the start for the Cubs, and worked three innings (58 pitches, but only 33 for strikes, including a 33-pitch 1st inning), allowing one earned run on two hits, two walks, a HBP, and one K.
After laboring and throwing 33 pitches in the 1st inning, Dempster came back to retire the Brewers on only 13 pitches in the 2nd and 12 in the 3rd.
Tony Gwynn, Jr, led off the second with a triple, but was stranded there thanks to a one-hop come-backer to the mound, a Ricky Weeks strikeout, and a fly ball to RF.
Dempster retired the last six batters he faced, and appeared to grow stronger and more confident as his outing progressed.
With the Brewers leading 1-0, the Cubs scored three in the third. With one out, Kosuke Fukudome homered over the RF fence on an 0-2 pitch off Brewers starter Claudio Vargas, and then Derrek Lee drew a walk and Tyler Colvin yanked a single to right sending D-Lee to third, before Geovany Soto doubled both runners home with a hard-hit grounder down the third-base line.
Sean Gallagher worked the 4th and 5th innings for the Cubs (34 pitches total - 24 strikes), and he had trouble keeping the ball down and in the park. The youngster gave up a two-run HR to Gwynn following a lead-off double in the 4h, and a solo shot to Mike Cameron in the 5th. Another batter was retired on a fly ball to the warning track in RF.
The Cubs scored a run of their own in the 4th, when with two outs, Felix Pie pushed a perfect bunt between the mound and 1st base for a single, and then after a wild pitch moved Pie up to 2nd, Kosuke Fukudome chopped an opposite-field RBI single down the third-base line and into LF. For the day, Fukudome (hitting second in the order) was 3-3 (ground ball single to CF, HR to RF, and RBI single to LF). He is now hitting .400 in Cactus League action.
Kerry Wood entered the game in the top of the 6th and retired the Brewers 1-2-3 on two pop ups and a line drive. Although Woody threw just 12 pitches in his one inning of work and retired the Brewers in order, he struggled with his control, throwing only six strikes.
The Cubs missed a golden scoring opportunity in the bottom of the 6th, failing to get Alex Cintron home from 3rd with no outs. With Cintron on 3rd base following a lead-off double and wild pitch, Sam Fuld had his bat busted as he grounded out weakly to 3rd, Andres Torres struck out swinging (he's dead meat once he's got two strikes), and--after a two-out five-pitch walk to Derrek Lee--Tyler Colvin flied out to deep CF (the Cubs could have used that when there was only one or two outs!).
Chad Fox made his first Cactus League appearance today, and had a very poor outing. In his one inning of work, Fox allowed two runs on three hits and a walk, and had a lot of difficulty throwing strikes. Several of his pitches were head-high (or even higher).
Carmen Pignatiello pitched the 8th, and faced only three batters. Throwing strike after strike, Tiggy retired the Brewers on a 5-3 GO, and then after a hard-hit line single to RF by Craig Counsell, a 4-3 GIDP.
Kevin Hart pitched the 9th and struck out the side. He did allow a one-out single, but then he blew away the last two hitters he faced with an excellent fastball.
The Cubs trailed Milwaukee 6-4 going into the bottom of the 9th, and with two out and nobody on base, they managed to string together a Ryan Theriot single, a double to the RF fence by J. D. Closser, and an infield hit by Luis Figueroa that featured a two-base Brewer throwing error that allowed PR Ronny Cedeno to score the tying run. But Alex Cintron fanned to end the inning, stranding Figueroa (who was representing the potential winning run) at 3rd base, sending the game into extra frames.
Unfortunately, Jose Ascanio was absolutely rocked by the Brewers in the top of the 10th, allowing four runs on four hits and a walk. Ascanio's outing would have been even worse if not for an outstanding diving stop & throw by 1st baseman Micah Hoffpauir to get the lead-off hitter 3-1. Ascanio had nothing today, and the Brewers "B" Squad relief-lineup treated him like a Batting Practice pitcher.
Besides Fukudome’s three-for-three afternoon, another notable offensive performance by the Cubs today was Geovany Soto going 1-2 with two walks and a two-run double. Also, Derrek Lee drew two walks, and Sam Fuld went 1-2 with a single and a walk (Pie started in CF, and was replaced by Fuld in the 6th). Fuld also had an outfield assist (8-3-5).
Eric Patterson started the game at 2B, and Mike Fontenot started the game at shortstop. E-Pat handled his one and only one chance (a 4-3 ground-out) and Fontenot handled his two (both 6-3 ground outs) without incident. And Kosuke Fukudome continues to make strong, accurate throws from RF. He has an OUTSTANDING arm.









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#1 Pitch counts
This might be a dumb question, but when you're keeping track of pitches, how do you know whether a batted ball (either a foul ball or a pitch put into play) is a ball or a strike? Do you automatically assume it's a strike?
#3 Re: Pitch counts
Batted balls are automatically counted as strikes. That's why in a single inning, a pitcher could get credit for throwing 15 or 20 strikes.
#4 Re: Pitch counts
And batted balls includes foul balls?
#6 Re: Pitch counts
Yes, foul balls are counted as Strikes
#7 Re: Pitch counts
Thank you!
#2 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
Thanks for the rundown Arizona Phil. Do you think given Cotts' struggles and Pignatiello's performance so far he is in the mind of Lou as a possibility for the 2nd lefty in the pen?
#10 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
WISCGRAD: Right now, I would say IF Uncle Lou chooses to keep two lefties in the pen (and he very well might keep only one), it will be Scott Eyre and Carmen Pignatiello.
But, if the Cubs do in fact acquire Brian Roberts from Baltimore, I believe LHP George Sherrill will probably be included in the deal, too, and if he is, he would immediately become the #1 lefty in the Cubs bullpen. He is VERY good.
#13 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
AZ Phil--FWIW, the Baltimore Sun reporter who was on with David Kaplan Monday night sounded very confident that Sherrill wouldn't be part of any Roberts deal; said the O's were insistent about the Mariners including him in the Bedard deal and that they have high hopes for him as a closer...not that a Baltimore Sun reporter couldn't be wrong.
#5 AZ PHIL!
Thanks!
I was wondering when you'd get to a write-up.
Do you have a sense when Lou will say "Enough!" with these pitchers/players who will
not be on the team?
Fox, Taketsu, Ascanio, A. Blanco, Cotts, et. al.? I realize the ST team is "thin" with the injuries - but some of these guys...ugh!
Also, is Cintron signed to any type of guarantee? He still is a weak hitter, isn't he?
Will he make this club?
Thanks!
#9 Re: AZ PHIL!
E-MAN: As of right now, I would guess Chad Fox, Shingo Takatsu and Neal Cotts will probably get released.
C. Fox and Takatsu are signed to minor league contracts so releasing them is no big deal, but in the case of Cotts, when he gets released is crucial.
Cotts is signed to a "non-guaranteed" major league contract, meaning that if the Cubs release him no later than March 14th, they will owe him only thirty days salary ($133,333). If they wait to release him until sometime after March 14th but prior to March 28th, they will owe him 45 days salary ($200K). If they release him after March 28th, they owe him his entire 2008 salary ($800K).
As for Alex Cintron, he signed a minor league deal, but I suspect he was promised that if he is not on the Cubs Opening Day 25-man roster, he can have his release and will be free to make a deal elsewhere.
Cintron making the team probably has a lot to do with whether Ronny Cedeno is on the Opening Day roster. if Cedeno gets traded, Cintron will almost certainly make the Opening Day roster. If Cedeno does not get traded, Cintron probably does not make it.
#12 Re: AZ PHIL!
If Cedeno gets traded is there any chance Andres Blanco makes the team over Cintron?
#25 Re: AZ PHIL!
T-DUBS: I would say Andres Blanco is strictly an "insurance policy" and will be the starting SS at Iowa. He has a strong arm and is fluid around the bag, but he isn't fast (in fact, he has below-average-speed for a middle infielder), and he has no power. And although he is hitting pretty well so far (mostly against minor league pitching), he has struggled with his hitting throughout his career.
#8 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
i would say that the cubs 2nd lefty for bullpen is not on
the team yet.
#11 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
if sherrill is included in a deal we would definately
be looking at more then four players going to orioles.
#14 ST numbers
A.Pagan is leading ST in hits (11)!!! panic!!! fire hendry!!!
har...
S.Moore is 8 for 14 and 4th in hits.
P.Konkero is 10 for 14 (damn).
it's still too early to make fun of the pitching. :(
#17 Re: ST numbers
Scott Moore is one of those hitters who wishes it was ST all year long.
#23 Re: ST numbers
Scott Moore has some skills. I've seen him in AAA several times. If he indeeed gets the LH Platoon Job in Baltimore this year. I could totally see him putting up a 265/330/460ish line. He has a good eye, patient approach and 25 HR Power. Not great when you have Aramis Ramirez in your lineup. However he is better than what Pittsburgh,Florida, and Melvin Mora can bring to the table. And he very well could outproduce what the 3rd Basemen do in Oakland,KC,Cleveland,Arizona,LAA,LAD, and Tampa.
#15 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
Well, if Fontenot and Patterson are your starting middle infielders, is it really that much of a surprise that Gallagher was trying to get fly balls?
How did Colvin look in left? One for the good DR. Was Fukudome's surgery for swinging or throwing or both, in your opinion? Seems like he did both well today.
#19 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
Was Fukudome's surgery for swinging or throwing or both, in your opinion?
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Both. Having loose bodies in the elbow causes pain an sometimes locking. It seems that Fuku's throwing arm if it's not at 100% yet should get stronger over time, but he looks close to fully recovered.
#24 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
REAL NEAL:Colvin looked fine in LF yesterday. I've seen him play all three OF positions over the past couple of years, and LF is defintely his best OF spot, although he does have the speed to play CF.
Fukudome's surgery was for bone chips in his right elbow. I'll leave it to Dr Hecht to evaluate which is more negatively affected by that problem, hitting or throwing, but I can tell you his arm looks really strong right now.
Fukudome appears to be the ultimate spray hitter, literally using the entire field, line-to-line. But when he pulls the ball, he really turns on it and elevates his swing. I've yet to see him hit a ball over the fence anyplace but straight-away RF. When he hits the ball to CF or LF, it's strictly line drives, ground balls, and choppers. He likes to use the "butcher-boy" opposite-field chop down the third-base line when the third-baseman isn't playing all the way back.
#16 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
caught this at an Illini message board:
"If we could package Benson for a tackling sled and a kicking tee - warrenillini "
Sound familiar?
#18 Re: Cubs Rally to Tie Game in 9th, Then Lose in 10th
"Ryan Dempster got the start for the Cubs, and worked three innings (58 pitches, but only 33 for strikes, including a 33-pitch 1st inning), allowing one earned run on two hits, two walks, a HBP, and one K."
Welcome to the wonderful world of "Dempster as a starting pitcher".
#20 Why I love Lou, Pt. 1
From Wittenmeyer, this A.M.:
"Piniella is disappointed with the early spring performances of young pitchers Jose Ascanio, Sean Gallagher, Esmailin Caridad, Jose Ceda and even Neal Cotts. ''You look at these guys prior to the games starting, and you think to yourself, 'Boy, this guy's got a good arm or this guy's got a good slider,' and all of a sudden, you put an umpire out there and start selling some beer in the stands, and it changes around a little bit,'' Piniella said.•
#43 Re: Why I love Lou, Pt. 1
You think its the beer?
#21 Roberts talk
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/825531,CST-SPT-cubnt05.article
In fact, one team source said Tuesday that the Cubs and Orioles haven't talked in more than a week and the sides are no closer to a deal than they were when camp opened -- which is not close at all.
General manager Jim Hendry wouldn't address specific teams or players but said reports that things are ''heating up'' with any team are wrong.
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'There have been no active talks in any trade situation in the last five, six days,'' Hendry said. ''We will continue to scout all the teams in Florida and Arizona, and if possible we will try to improve our ballclub by the end of camp.'
#22 Lineups: Interesting BP article excerpt
This may be 3/44 material, but Sullivan posted this excerpt of a Baseball Prospectus article re: lineups:
"The Cubs, to pick one example, have the potential for a disastrous lineup in play. A couple of weeks ago, Lou Piniella indicated that he would lead off with Alfonso Soriano and Ryan Theriot, who possess two of the lowest projected OBPs in the Cubs lineup, while batting Kosuke Fukudome fifth. It would be hard to assemble a worse lineup given the talent available; Soriano is simply not a leadoff hitter, possessing the power and OBP of a #4 batter. Theriot, despite 28 steals last season, is at best a #7 batter, and best-suited for eighth. Fukudome will hit for average, OBP, and doubles power, and is a good #2 or #3 hitter depending on the players around him.
"To Piniella's credit, he has been batting Fukudome in the #3 spot so far in the Cactus League. Then again, it just puts the lack of understanding into relief; batting Theriot second and Fukudome third is one of those things that is a bit hard to make sense of.
"What has happened is teams, and even managers such as Lou Piniella, have been trained to regard secondary offensive characteristics as more important than primary ones. Speed is a secondary offensive characteristic, and it always has been. Contact rate is a secondary characteristic. The primary ones are the ability to get on base and the ability to hit for power. How well a player does those two things should determine his lineup spot."
#26 Re: Lineups: Interesting BP article excerpt
Werd.
The lineup should be, imo: Theriot 6, Lee 3, Fukudome 9 (Lee & Fukudome could be reversed), Ramirez 5, Soriano 7, Derosa 4, Pie 8, Soto 2, 1
...and when Soriano doesn't immediately start hitting, don't panic. Leave him there and he'll settle in.
#28 Re: Lineups: Interesting BP article excerpt
Theriot leading off, really? I'd prefer:
Fukudome
Lee
Soriano
Ramirez
Derosa
Soto
Pie
Theriot/Cedeno
Pitcher
#32 Re: Lineups: Interesting BP article excerpt
The problem with that is you have:
Lefty, Righty, Righty, Righty, Righty, Righty, Lefty, Righty, pitcher.
The Cub's need more left-handed power, it's that simple.
Thinking outside the box here, but would you try to pick up Roberts again, move Derosa to 3B, and trade Ramirez for some sort of solid lefty hitter? I'm sure he could net an all-star caliber lefty slugger.
#33 Re: Lineups: Interesting BP article excerpt
"I'm sure he could net an all-star caliber lefty slugger."
I am not sure I agree with this, who were you thinking of?
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