A Trade Possibility...

Rotoworld had a blurb today that Kevin Frandsen is taking a break from playing shortsop. This is on the heels of Omar Vizquel being sidelined with a knee injury. Rotoworld speculates the Giants will probably be looking for a shortstop by the time spring training is ending and it made me think the Cubs might be able to help them out.

As previously mentioned, by a number of folks including our own Arizona Phil, center fielder Rajai Davis is out of options and could possibly fill that right-handed hitting, three-spot outfielder the Cubs have been searching for since the offseason began. A speedster, who is known for playing hard at all times, his major and minor league numbers suggest that, at the very least, he's not immune to taking a walk. The Cubs, of course, have a shortstop named Ronny Cedeno who happens to be also out of options.

So Jim Hendry, if you're out there, go ahead and contact me and I'll let you know where to send the consulting fee once this goes through.


I'd love that move. Do it to it.

And for the record, there's probably no one better on the planet for Ronny Cedeno to learn from than Omar Vizquel.

What about Dusty Baker?

Why not just trade Schoenweis and Castillo to the Cubs for Marquis, DeRosa and Murton?

It solves problems for both teams and wouldn't gut the farm system as the Roberts trade.

1. Castillo bats behind Soriano.

2. Schoenweis becomes provides a nice lefty option out of the pen.

3. Cedeno plays CF, SS & 2B off the bench in a platoon with Pie.

4. Cintron plays SS, 2B & 3B as a back-up.

5. Jake Fox (PH/OF/1B/C), Henry Blanco (C/1B) & Daryl Ward (PH/OF/1B) finsih out the bench.

For the Mets:

1. Murton solves their need for an outfielder that can hit in the middle of the order.

2. DeRosa replaces Castillo - with more power.

3. Marquis eats innings.

Of course, it leaves the Cubs with Alex Cintron as the backup SS in all likelihood...so yeah.

Hmm... thought Frandsen could handle SS for a while.

Cedeno is worth more than Rajai Davis and I do not even like Cedeno that much. We should be targeting Brian Anderson for the right handed backup OF, the White Sox seem to want a back of the rotation guy give them Marshall or Dempster depending if they want a vet or young guy.

That would be a decent enough proposal for both sides. Unfortunately they already got a SS backlog with 2 guys who are possible starters and/or paid like starters in cabrerra and uribe.

Agreed that cedeno is worth ore than r.davis...fontenot i wouldnt have an issue with.

100% certain that no one is going to trade for Mike Fontenot to play SS for them.

But yeah, probably would be happier just keeping Cedeno and teach him how to shag flyballs. 

yeah, fontenot has a hard enough time ranging 2nd base.

the "well, he does have experience playing there" can only get you so far.

may we never see more than 1 inning of d.ward playing RF in anything but a blowout game in 2008, please...wow...yeah...

Brian Anderson?! The guy can't hit his weight.

He can hit the shit out of John Mabry.

He can hit the shit out of John Mabry.

I had forgotten about that. It was a great baseball fight.

fwiw...things like trading for pro-level players in march tends to not happen til the last week or so of march.

i could only find offseason trading records back to 2003, but there has only been one pro-level talent exchange prior to the last stretch of ST.

trade was a dbacks march 8th 2006 a.cintron to the wsox for whosit mcwhatshisface, btw.

so what's this mean? nothing. just something to be aware of while the rumors grind us down.

Yeah, about March 20th is typically when deals start happening again.

I didn't really know much about Davis, but after looking up his stats, I'd be all for this trade. In 190 at bats he hit .279 with a .361 OBP, in addition to 32 runs, 11 doubles, and 22 stolen bases. Take those numbers out to a full season (roughly multiple by 3) and you get a pretty good player. 30+ doubles, nearly 100 runs scored, and over 60 stolen bases. In the minors he regularly stole 40-50 bases a season, has a career OBP of .373, and it looks like he is a pretty good outfielder as well - has had double digit assists twice. And even though it's a small N of just 67 games, fwiw he has a 1.000 fielding percentage in the bigs.

And to build on that, he splits even better against lefties than righties. If our presumptive CF should prove he is not ready to handle a full-time gig, they would be a really nice (and cheap) platoon duo.

Saw a lot of Rajai when he was in AAA Indy in the Pirates organization.

I really think he's a good player. Kid's got great wheels. Exceptional defensively. Does do a pretty good job of taking walks. He just doesn't have any power, though.

the cubs should at least float the possibility out there
and let andy the clown see it.

I have always liked:
Randy Wynn?

He has always played well against us.

Hits for power.

Some speed.

Solid defensively.

I so wanted the Cub's to go after him when Seattle traded him. I think I might have even bitched about it on TCR.

Think he can play CF?

I think he can still play centerfield and I would love to have him on the Cubs.

Brian Anderson? Pew. I thought we were looking for basically a "bench" guy that bats right-handed and can play all outfield spots? Randy Winn is a starter. I'd be all for welcoming Rajai to the squad. I saw him play several times when he was an Indianapolis Indian and he plays hard and would upgrade the Cubs team speed. If Felix flounders or twists his other nut, I don't think we'd miss a beat with RD. Love the trade idea, Rob.



I still like Rob G's idea of sending a reliever to the Tigers for Inge and then flipping him to the Angels for Figgins.

not sure I can take credit for that, the newspaper report was the Tigers asking us about bullpen help and mentioning Inge, I think "the Joe" was hoping we can then flip him for Chone, which is pretty doubtful. I had, earlier in the offseason, mentioned trying to work a 3-way deal between the same 3 teams though where Angels get Inge and something, Tigers gets some relievers and pitching rotation depth (Marhsall, Gallagher, Hart type guys) and we get Figgins. That's just me, floating stuff though.

I think "the Joe" was hoping we can then flip him for Chone, which is pretty doubtful.

I'd be happy with Willits -- not on the same level as Figgins, of course, but he would be an excellent 4th outfielder/platoon CF for the Cubs.


Cub's cut the roster finally, if this hasn't already been posted. No surprises, but some of Lou's pitching problems should go away.


List includes:

Billy Petrick
Esmailin Caridad
Jose Ceda
Geoff Jones

Tyler Colvin
Andres Torres

Bobby Scales

Wellington Castillo
Josh Donaldson

Torres is a big surprise. There's no other right-handed hitting "true" CF in the ML camp now. Either they're happy with the way Cedeno looks out there, or someone else is on their way.

Early cut for Colvin, considering he was in the RF discussion until Fukudome was signed.

When do the minor leauge games start?

Since when was Colvin in the RF discussion?

Did anyone seriously mention Colvin as a possibility?

awright, so who's the poor schlub who wasted his 1st round pick on pujols? i swear those guys sold their soul for that world series.

I'd sell Chad's soul for a Cubs WS title

Holy crap!

What did I do to you?!?!?!

don't act shocked, like you wouldn't sell your own soul for a Cubs WS title.

I have thought about selling my soul for a long time. But screw the Cubs. If I'm selling my soul, I would get to be a rock star. And not some crappy ass rock star like Pete Wentz but a real rock star like Gene Simmons or Mick Jagger.

Probably better use of your soul there Chad. Selfishly I would rather Sacrifice your soul for the greater good of Cubdom. It was nothing personal against you I assure you. It was just a sacrifice I was willing to make. Surely you understand.

I didn't really take it personally and I understand your reasoning. I thought it was funny that you used me.

"And not some crappy ass rock star like Pete Wentz but a real rock star like Gene Simmons or Mick Jagger."

I thought Gene Simmons is a cartoon character...

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  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 7 hours 28 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 10 hours 26 min ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 10 hours 38 min ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 10 hours 47 min ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 10 hours 52 min ago view
  • a 60" TV with slow-motion replay and multiple looks on that replay helps...a lot...

    it's one thing to shy away like he did the 2nd time, it's another to bail out of the box on a called strike. that happened in the 1st one he pulled away from. he misjudged that one by a foot or so...

    crunch 11 hours 10 min ago view
  • Good Hendricks sure is fun to watch. He was hitting all his corners today and the Phillies couldn't do anything with his changeup.

    johann 11 hours 47 min ago view
  • Bryant and I believe Zobrist both did that too.

    johann 12 hours 4 min ago view
  • Soler BB acumen and plate awareness is excellent. Not unusual for even the best players to react as if they were about to hit them, "even though they weren't that close" from your vantage point sitting on your deck, or wherever.

    The E-Man 12 hours 6 min ago view
  • soler vs inside breaking balls is scary.

    he's had 2 inside curve balls today where he reacted as if they were about to hit him even though they weren't that close...one he bailed out of the box on, it was a called strike.

    crunch 12 hours 24 min ago view
  • j.urias optioned back to AAA...guess we wont be seeing him in the LAD series.

    crunch 12 hours 31 min ago view
  • so is him actually getting 2 hits in a game (2 doubles!)...first time he's even been on base 2 times in a game since 9 games ago on his 3/4, 1bb day.

    im ready for him to at least look like a 2-slot hitter since he's gonna be slotted there no matter what he does.

    crunch 13 hours 27 min ago view
  • That Heyward move to avoid Bryant's ball hit at him was a thing of beauty too.

    johann 13 hours 45 min ago view
  • 9 pitches in and this game already rules.

    HR, double...bryant's turn (who came out to a Kris Kross song for some horrible, horrible reason).

    ...2 run inning...zoobrest hitting streak at 14.

    crunch 13 hours 49 min ago view
  • First time I saw Herrera was yesterday. He took like 100 pitches, fouled off a ton off Lester.

    Very nice young player and perfect leadoff guy.

    The E-Man 14 hours 59 min ago view
  • Obviously not Phil. But he mentioned this on Wednesday.

    "Dominican Summer League (DSL) Opening Day is Saturday June 4th, so probably about 8-10 pitchers and position players presently at EXST in Mesa will be sent to the Cubs Dominican Academy (probably sometime this week) and be assigned to either DSL Cubs #1 or DSL Cubs #2."

    In the comments here: http://www.thecubreporter.com/05242016/cub-power-d...

    QuietMan 15 hours 38 min ago view