The Cubs "travel" to Phoenix today to take on their Central rivals, the Brewers. Rich Hill goes for the Cubs with Mark DeRosa set to return to the lineup. Dave Bush will start for the Brewers.
I don't quite get the whole "we're not gonna pitch Z today, since that will allow the Brewers to get a better read on him and he's gonna face the Brewers several times this year." Aren't the other pitchers just as likely to face the Brewers an equal number of times? Although I do suppose, since Hill won't face them on the opening weekend, that he's more likely to face them less times than Z...
Piniella, talking about Japanese hitters in general and our Japanese hitter in particular, from yesterday's New York Times:
“They’re very disciplined hitters,” Piniella said. “They have great
work habits, they have a unique style of hitting that isn’t taught in
this country. They learned it through batting practice, their
instruction and they use film. They have their own way of hitting.
“They
stand a little closer to the plate than American hitters. When they
stride, they don’t step toward the pitcher but more toward first base
or third base, depending on whether they’re left-handed or
right-handed. Their top stays stationary so they’re nice and square and
their hands are steady when they hit.
“It’s a unique way of
hitting, but it’s effective. Ichiro can hit the ball anywhere he wants.
He can spray it to left, slap it to center, pull it to right.”
To prevent subsequent torsion, fix viable gonads to the scrotal wall with 3-4 nonabsorbable sutures. Perform both exploration and anchoring of the contralateral testis through the same incision.
Submitted by Transmission on Mon, 03/10/2008 - 4:39pm.
Random ex-cub Prospect update.....
Among the many players the Nationals re-assigned to minor league camps today were Bobby Brownlie and Jason Dubois.
Other notable names include Detweiler getting sent to A-ball, and Clippard to AAA. But they're not ex-cubs, so who cares....
Cubster, what's your take on the OssaTron treatment that Dwyane Wade will undergo for his knee? Is this a longshot treatment or a new technique that's proven to be effective? And how long before they know whether the treatment "worked"? Thanks.
The Ossatron is very similar to Lithotripsy used in treatment to non-surgically break up kidney stones. It's high frequency ultrasonic shock waves (branded as Extracorporial Shock Wave Therapy or ESWT).
Apparently, the theory behind it is that it disrupts the chronically injured/inflammed tissue bringing in new blood supply on a microscopic level where any prior healing reaction had stopped or never occurred. Hence in ortho it's used mostly on chronic tendonitis situations that seem to be resistant to conventional treatments over time.
My experience is limited to treatment of RESISTANT achilles tendonitis and lateral epicondylitis (tennis elbow) and plantar fascitis in the foot and it's been very iffy (it's been very expensive, so for most people, the insurance usually has to approve it which isn't all that common these days) but some of the patients felt it helped. It's not like the ultrasound treatments rendered in physical therapy departments which is more like deep heat.
Regarding baseball players, I believe this is what Magglio Ordonez had in Europe (I seem to remember Vienna) for his knee problem which was labeled avascular necrosis (AVN) but more likely Ordonez had a severe bone bruise that got better on it's own...just that it took a long time to heal. The data on it for treatment of AVN comes mostly from Europe. Of course with a good result someone is going to take credit. Again the theory was that there was damage to the local blood supply to bone in his distal femur at the knee and the ESWT creates a situation where new blood supply even in the bone would develop restoring the damaged area.
Chris Quinn, a teammate of Wade's had OssaTron treatment after last season on the bottom of both feet (plantar fascitis) to relieve heel and arch pain. I guess he's better.
I'm not sure what Wade's diagnosis is, apparently he's had both of his knees scoped though. Most likely diagnosis in the knee to use it on would be patellar tendonitis (which is also known as jumpers knee)...that makes sense as it's common in basketball.
Submitted by HendryIsClueLess on Mon, 03/10/2008 - 9:43pm.
Does anyone think Marshall has better stuff and upside than Rich Hill? I know Marshall hasn't had the same amount of success, but he's younger and hasnt been given the same opportunity. I see Hill as a one trick pony (curveball) and still hasnt developed a 3rd pitch, nor can he hold runners. His fastball is straight as heck. Rich Hill seems to clean up on lousy lineups, but he doesnt do that well vs better teams. Rich Hil stepped up a few games last year and surprised me, but who's more on the rise? Marshall or Hill? I would think Hill would get more on the open market as well? Hill straight up for Roberts?
Submitted by The Real Neal on Tue, 03/11/2008 - 12:48am.
Hill throws four pitches and his fastball, when he's on his fastball has some late life. Marshall throws three pitches none of which are 'above average'. The advantatge that Marshall has is that his fastball tends be thrown on a downward plane and get more groundballs. But no, I don't think Marshall has better stuff or a higher upside than Marshall. Marshall got rushed to the majors, whereas Hill had some injury problems in the minors, which explains the desrepancy in their ages vs MLB experience. Hill has been better in the minors and better in the Majors.
Submitted by HendryIsClueLess on Tue, 03/11/2008 - 8:13am.
I dont think Hill throws 4 pitches, cause i have heard repeatedly that he is working on a 3rd Pitch (Changeup) to go along with his 2 pitches. I guess if he throws multiple type of fastballs thats additional pitches, but then u can say every pitcher throws 4 pitchers (3 different fastballs, + Breaking Ball)
Submitted by mannytrillo on Tue, 03/11/2008 - 9:10am.
Yeah, it depends on the way you look at it, but for the most part, Hill has less pitches in his repertoire than most pitchers and still has some improvement he can do, which is good!!
2010 CUBS MLB PAYROLL: $134.9M NOTE: Total does not include performance bonuses not yet earned, and signing bonuses are only included if all or part of the bonus is actually paid this season
+ Player has "NO TRADE" rights NOTE: Byrd, Grabow, and Nady have "no trade" only through 6/15/2010
SIGNED FOR 2010
+ 12 Alfonso Soriano, OF - $18M
+ 38 Carlos Zambrano, RHP - $17.875M
+ 16 Aramis Ramirez, 3B - $15.75M
+ 1 Kosuke Fukudome, OF - $13M
+ 25 Derrek Lee, 1B - $13M
+ 46 Ryan Dempster, RHP - $12.5M
+ 30 Ted Lilly, LHP - $12M
52 Carlos Silva, RHP - $6M (see NOTE)
+ 22 Xavier Nady, OF - $3.3M
+ 43 John Grabow, LHP - $3.25M
+ 24 Marlon Byrd, OF - $3M
2 Ryan Theriot, SS - $2.6M
+ 29 Jeff Samardzija, RHP - $2.5M
49 Carlos Marmol, RHP - $2.125M
17 Mike Fontenot, 2B - $1M
28 Jeff Baker, INF - $975K
45 Sean Marshall, LHP - $950K
37 Angel Guzman, RHP - $825K
32 Tom Gorzelanny, LHP - $800K
55 Koyie Hill, C - $700K SUB-TOTAL (SIGNED PLAYERS): $130.15M NOTE: Mariners pay $5.5M of Silva's $11.5M salary in 2010.
OTHER:
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Luis Vizcaino - $500K (2010 buy-out) SUB-TOTAL (OTHER): $1.5M
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60 Mitch Atkins, RHP
64 Justin Berg, RHP
13 Andres Blanco, INF
33 Esmailin Caridad, RHP
72 Welington Castillo, C
21 Tyler Colvin, OF
66 Rafael Dolis, RHP
27 Sam Fuld, OF
48 John Gaub, LHP
34 Jeff Gray, RHP
6 Micah Hoffpauir, 1B
62 Marcos Mateo, RHP
47 Mike Parisi, RHP
58 Blake Parker, RHP
54 David Patton, RHP
18 Geovany Soto, C
44 Jeff Stevens, RHP
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The 2010 MLB mimimum salary is $400K, with a $65K minor league split minimum ($32.5K minor league split minimum for players with no MLB Service Time who are on 40-man roster for the first time), and minor league split salary must be at least 60% of what player was actually paid in salary the previous season.
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79 Casey Coleman, RHP
20 Thomas Diamond, RHP
78 Jeff Kennard, RHP
68 J. R. Mathes, LHP
53 Vince Perkins, RHP
76 James Russell, LHP
71 Robinson Chirinos, C
74 Steve Clevenger, C-1B
73 Blake Lalli, C-1B
75 Chris Robinson, C
65 Darwin Barney, INF
57 Matt Camp, IF-OF
67 Starlin Castro, INF
4 Bryan Lahair, 1B-OF
15 Kevin Millar, 1B-OF
19 Bobby Scales, IF-OF
9 Chad Tracy, 1B-3B
61 Josh Vitters, 3B
59 Brett Jackson, OF
56 Brad Snyder, OF
#1 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Cubs @ Brewers
Game will be replayed tonite on Comcast.
#2 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Cubs @ Brewers
I don't quite get the whole "we're not gonna pitch Z today, since that will allow the Brewers to get a better read on him and he's gonna face the Brewers several times this year." Aren't the other pitchers just as likely to face the Brewers an equal number of times? Although I do suppose, since Hill won't face them on the opening weekend, that he's more likely to face them less times than Z...
#3 Re: Defense
Not so great so far, Fuld with an ugly throw and Blanco with a near passed ball.
#4 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Cubs @ Brewers
Yay, the offense is here!
Boo, Hill got roughed up a bit in the second inning.
#5 Re: Fukudome
I predict by May, that fans will start getting cranky about how Fukudome pulls off the ball when swinging...
#7 Re: Fukudome
Might depend on his BA and whether he stays in the second slot. If he's batting 3rd or 5th and hitting .268, there will be a lot of barking.
#15 Re: Fukudome
Piniella, talking about Japanese hitters in general and our Japanese hitter in particular, from yesterday's New York Times:
“They’re very disciplined hitters,” Piniella said. “They have great
work habits, they have a unique style of hitting that isn’t taught in
this country. They learned it through batting practice, their
instruction and they use film. They have their own way of hitting.
“They
stand a little closer to the plate than American hitters. When they
stride, they don’t step toward the pitcher but more toward first base
or third base, depending on whether they’re left-handed or
right-handed. Their top stays stationary so they’re nice and square and
their hands are steady when they hit.
“It’s a unique way of
hitting, but it’s effective. Ichiro can hit the ball anywhere he wants.
He can spray it to left, slap it to center, pull it to right.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/sports/baseball/09chass.html?scp=1&sq=Piniella+Fukudome&st=nyt
But I agree that if he's put in a position lower in the order from which the Cubs need some thunder, he'll be criticized as an overpaid slap hitter.
#6 Re:Pie's Twisted Testicle
he'll be out a week, having a "procedure" today...
#13 Re:Pie's Twisted Testicle
Pie's surgery:
assuming the testis is viable...
To prevent subsequent torsion, fix viable gonads to the scrotal wall with 3-4 nonabsorbable sutures. Perform both exploration and anchoring of the contralateral testis through the same incision.
http://www.emedicine.com/Med/topic2780.htm
in case it's not viable:
Patients requiring an orchiectomy because of a nonviable testis may benefit from the placement of a testicular prosthesis.
#20 Re:Pie's Twisted Testicle
Just curious, doc. what causes twisted testicles? Not the kama sutra I hope...
#27 Re:Pie's Twisted Testicle
To prevent subsequent torsion, fix viable gonads to the scrotal wall
There are so many things wrong with this.
#8 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Cubs @ Brewers
Wow, Hank White has lost a fair amount of weight.
#9 Re: Rich Hill
sure brought the suck today...
Lahey looked good on the K, we'll see how the 5th goes.
#10 Re: Parachat
come on by...
#11 Ex Cub Factor on Nats
Random ex-cub Prospect update.....
Among the many players the Nationals re-assigned to minor league camps today were Bobby Brownlie and Jason Dubois.
Other notable names include Detweiler getting sent to A-ball, and Clippard to AAA. But they're not ex-cubs, so who cares....
#12 Re: Ex Cub Factor on Nats
Didn't make the Nats cut? Ouch.
#21 Re: Ex Cub Factor on Nats
Dubois is well on his way to being a career minor-leaguer.
#14 Off-topic sports medicine question
Cubster, what's your take on the OssaTron treatment that Dwyane Wade will undergo for his knee? Is this a longshot treatment or a new technique that's proven to be effective? And how long before they know whether the treatment "worked"? Thanks.
#16 Re: Off-topic sports medicine question
The Ossatron is very similar to Lithotripsy used in treatment to non-surgically break up kidney stones. It's high frequency ultrasonic shock waves (branded as Extracorporial Shock Wave Therapy or ESWT).
http://www.ossatron.com/
Apparently, the theory behind it is that it disrupts the chronically injured/inflammed tissue bringing in new blood supply on a microscopic level where any prior healing reaction had stopped or never occurred. Hence in ortho it's used mostly on chronic tendonitis situations that seem to be resistant to conventional treatments over time.
My experience is limited to treatment of RESISTANT achilles tendonitis and lateral epicondylitis (tennis elbow) and plantar fascitis in the foot and it's been very iffy (it's been very expensive, so for most people, the insurance usually has to approve it which isn't all that common these days) but some of the patients felt it helped. It's not like the ultrasound treatments rendered in physical therapy departments which is more like deep heat.
Regarding baseball players, I believe this is what Magglio Ordonez had in Europe (I seem to remember Vienna) for his knee problem which was labeled avascular necrosis (AVN) but more likely Ordonez had a severe bone bruise that got better on it's own...just that it took a long time to heal. The data on it for treatment of AVN comes mostly from Europe. Of course with a good result someone is going to take credit. Again the theory was that there was damage to the local blood supply to bone in his distal femur at the knee and the ESWT creates a situation where new blood supply even in the bone would develop restoring the damaged area.
Chris Quinn, a teammate of Wade's had OssaTron treatment after last season on the bottom of both feet (plantar fascitis) to relieve heel and arch pain. I guess he's better.
I'm not sure what Wade's diagnosis is, apparently he's had both of his knees scoped though. Most likely diagnosis in the knee to use it on would be patellar tendonitis (which is also known as jumpers knee)...that makes sense as it's common in basketball.
#17 Harben optioned to AA
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/press_releases/pr...
Did he even get in a game?
#18 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Cubs @ Brewers
Does anyone think Marshall has better stuff and upside than Rich Hill? I know Marshall hasn't had the same amount of success, but he's younger and hasnt been given the same opportunity. I see Hill as a one trick pony (curveball) and still hasnt developed a 3rd pitch, nor can he hold runners. His fastball is straight as heck. Rich Hill seems to clean up on lousy lineups, but he doesnt do that well vs better teams. Rich Hil stepped up a few games last year and surprised me, but who's more on the rise? Marshall or Hill? I would think Hill would get more on the open market as well? Hill straight up for Roberts?
#19 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Cubs @ Brewers
Hill throws four pitches and his fastball, when he's on his fastball has some late life. Marshall throws three pitches none of which are 'above average'. The advantatge that Marshall has is that his fastball tends be thrown on a downward plane and get more groundballs. But no, I don't think Marshall has better stuff or a higher upside than Marshall. Marshall got rushed to the majors, whereas Hill had some injury problems in the minors, which explains the desrepancy in their ages vs MLB experience. Hill has been better in the minors and better in the Majors.
#22 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Cubs @ Brewers
I dont think Hill throws 4 pitches, cause i have heard repeatedly that he is working on a 3rd Pitch (Changeup) to go along with his 2 pitches. I guess if he throws multiple type of fastballs thats additional pitches, but then u can say every pitcher throws 4 pitchers (3 different fastballs, + Breaking Ball)
#23 Re: Hill's different pitches
If the pitch acts differently from the hitters perspective, then it IS a different pitch.
#24 Re:Hill
Yeah, it depends on the way you look at it, but for the most part, Hill has less pitches in his repertoire than most pitchers and still has some improvement he can do, which is good!!
#25 Re: Rich Hill's pitches
Hill is mostly fastball and 12-to-6 curve. He does have a change and a cutter, neither of which he uses very often or effectively.
#26 Re: Rich Hill's pitches
What Rob G said. The same, however can be said about Marhsall's changeup as well.
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