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Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Cubnut on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 11:38am.

The Rockies visit HoHoKam this afternoon at 3:05 Chicago time. It's Rich "89.4 MPH" Hill vs. Franklin Morales.

And Lou Piniella confirms: when he said he'd have a rotation announcement by Friday, he meant it, dammit.


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#1 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 1:55pm.

by friday?

so marquis and murton for j.walker and j.payton tommorow?

=p

#2 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Transmission on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:04pm.
mlb is telling me this game is not available either on audio or video from their website...

#3 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by WISCGRAD on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:28pm.

"Cesar Izturis went 0-for-3 and committed an error Thursday against the Marlins. Izturis is batting .163 and he's up to seven errors in the equivalent of about 12 full games at shortstop." (Rotoworld)

Glad he's not in the picture anymore.

#26 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Stevens on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 3:19pm.

And yet, he might go north with the Cards over Brendan Ryan. Strange world, this.

#4 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Jace on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:29pm.

WTF??? 5 BB in the first?? How the hell did Hill do that?

#5 WTF??? 5 BB in the first?? How the hell did Hill do that?

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:34pm.

and only 1 run scored

Walk
Walk
Walk
DP, run scores, runner to third
Walk
Walk
Fly Out to Right Fielder Matt Murton, Fukudome is playing Center!

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#8 Re: WTF??? 5 BB in the first?? How the hell did Hill do that?

Submitted by Transmission on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:38pm.
where you going for updates on this game?

#11 Re: WTF??? 5 BB in the first?? How the hell did Hill do that?

Submitted by Jace on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:39pm.

mlb.com's Live box score...

#20 Re: WTF??? 5 BB in the first?? How the hell did Hill do that?

Submitted by Transmission on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:57pm.
Thanks!

#6 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by billybucks on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:35pm.

Is Hill working on his Intentional Walks?

#7 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Jace on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:35pm.

So, what is he up to, like 50 pitches already?

#9 I know its "ONLY SPRING TRAINING"

Submitted by The E-Man on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:38pm.

but is this mental midget Hill really going to win 12 games this year?

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#10 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Cubster on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:39pm.

something tells me that Hill will be our 6th starter

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#12 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Cubster on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:40pm.

where you going for updates on this game?
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http://cubs.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2008_03_...

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#13 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Transmission on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:42pm.
Thanks! 

#14 Hill pulled in the second

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:53pm.

He started the inning off with his sixth walk
out on a missed bunt K
Aramis made a throwing error
Hill made a throwing error
Hill gave up a double past CF KFuk
yanked

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#15 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by SheffieldCornelia on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:52pm.

Is mlb.com correct? Josh Kroeger really came in and finished the inning?

#16 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Jace on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:53pm.

mlb.com is saying that the recently demoted OF Josh Kroeger came in to relieve Hill in the 2nd, and got the next two hitters out... I don't believe that... Anyone know what really happened?

#17 Back to back doubles by Murton and DeRosa

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:55pm.

puts the Cubs on the board after Aramis and KFuk struck out to start the bottom of the second.

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#18 Hank Blanco Homers

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:56pm.

tie game

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#19 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by billybucks on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:56pm.

They are show-casing Kroeger as a long releiver for the Orioles scouts.

#22 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:59pm.

Lahey not Kroeger.

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#21 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Jace on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 2:59pm.

Ahh... Lahey it is... That makes a little more sense...

#23 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Cubster on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 3:03pm.

Lahey not Kroeger.
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darn those Leprechaun's doing the live boxscores

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#24 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Jace on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 3:09pm.

What is this? No warm-ups day? All the pitchers are getting shelled!

#25 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Transmission on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 3:12pm.
No Good Has Come Of This.

#27 Guess who won't be on the Reds 25 man roster ....

Submitted by Transmission on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 3:28pm.
Jay Bruce, of course. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080320&content_id=2446821&vkey=spt2008news&fext;=.jsp&c_id=mlb

#57 Admin note for Trans

Submitted by Rob G. on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 12:18am.

the rest of you can ignore this...

but if you're logged into your normal admin account and want to post a link in the comments, I suggest going to "input format" below the edit windown and switching to "filtered html". It'll automatically hyperlink and truncate it for you. This only applies to admins though.

#58 Re: Admin note for Trans

Submitted by Transmission on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 3:05pm.
Thanks.  I sent it from my office computer, which evidently had different settings on it from my home pc, I don't konw why.

#59 Re: Admin note for Trans

Submitted by Transmission on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 4:21pm.
A question:  I can't get the switch to stick.  Meaning, I click on Filtered, and A. nothing changes and B. for my next comment, it goes back to the rich-text editing default....

#60 Re: Admin note for Trans

Submitted by Rob G. on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 7:34pm.

You need it on "Rich-Text" if you want to use the toolbar when you write an article. Unfortunately for the 6 of us, it'll also default to that in the comments. It was one of the 8,000 emails I've sent out, I'm sure you missed it. Some of the writers have two accounts, one for writing stories and one for commenting, then you don't have to worry about it. Otherwise, if you just want to post a link and a bit of info, I've just gotten in the habit of hitting "Disable rich-text" and then switching the "input format" to "filtered html". The only benefit is that it automatically hyperlinks any links and truncates them if they're over 50 characters.

But no, it won't stick...you have to change it each time you want to do that.

#61 Re: Admin note for Trans

Submitted by Transmission on Sun, 03/23/2008 - 9:50am.
A second account would give me migranes, I guess I'll just get in the habit.. thanks!

#28 Ryan Theriot manufactures a run

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 3:33pm.

Ryan Theriot walks
Soriano batting, E-1 on pickoff attempt
Theriot steals 3b
Theriot scores on a WP ball four to Derrek Lee

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#29 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 3:36pm.

At this rate it's irrelevant where KFuk bats, he just struck out again.

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#30 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Tito on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 4:09pm.

So basically the expectation of some people here is that Fukudome would tear up the Cactus League and continue that into the season.

Ah, good plan.

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#31 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by billybucks on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 4:15pm.

Are they playing at Coors Field?

#32 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by The Joe on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 4:20pm.

Hendry loves injury risks...any chance of acquiring John Patterson? Pretty please.

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#33 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Transmission on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 4:45pm.
Wow, just got a phone call from Pappa Trans, who is at the game! On his regular spring trip with the wife's family to AZ, and says it's a beautiful day. Beyond that, I'll just say that Pappa Trans's ability to comment on spring training games is somewhere below that of Arizona Phil's.

#34 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Cubster on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 4:45pm.

Steve Avery now pitching? Loved him with a young Glavine and Smoltz.

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#35 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Cubster on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:12pm.

G Jones now pitching? Can't wait to see Az Phil's writeup

...Lou on the phone to the bullpen in the 2nd inning after the 6th walk from Hill, "send the bus to the minor league camp and bring back some pitchers, I'm going to be damned if I burn out my bullpen in March."

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#36 A rotation with Hill?

Submitted by etschosi on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:19pm.

Is it possible that Hill could start in Iowa if he does not settle down? A rotation of Z, Lilly, Demp, Lieber, and Marquis to start the year if a trade is not made before opening day might sound bizarre, but possible. Trade Marquis or Dempster for the coveted RH CF/OF later and bring Hill back after the trade. Does Hill have any options left? Just a thought.....

#37 Re: A rotation with Hill?

Submitted by etschosi on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:20pm.

Duh...I meant w/o Hill!

#38 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Cubster on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:23pm.

Cubs Win 8-6. Wuertz 1 1/3 IP and a save, 2 K's. Nobody's said it yet but maybe he's our closer. Certainly he's been a good "fireman" this spring.

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#39 Rich Hill is an average pitcher at best

Submitted by Rich_Hill_is_av... on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:27pm.

It's entirely possible that Hill starts the season in Iowa. Mainly because he hasn't had one start where he met his required pitch count. He's had shorter than desired outings. He'll need to stretch his arm out somewhere and that somewhere is very likely Iowa and Lou will go with a 4 man rotation early. I know he said he wasn't going to do that, but the most overrated Cub since Jason Dubois has screwed that up.

Funny I don't hear anyone comparing him to Bedard anymore. LOL what a bunch of fools.

#40 Re: Rich Hill is an average pitcher at best

Submitted by The Joe on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:44pm.

Who are fools, exactly? Oh, is it THEY?

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#41 The fools are

Submitted by Rich_Hill_is_av... on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:52pm.

those who were comparing him to Erik Bedard and those who said he would progress this year and perform at a Bedard level and that the Cubs shouldn't go after Bedard because, "We already have an Erik Bedard. His name is the great Rich Hill."

Those fools.

Rich Hill has the mental toughness of a joint.

#45 Re: The fools are

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:12pm.

eh?

they're both lefties with good curves, but i dont recall people going out of their way to compare hill and bedard. they dont even have comparable fastballs.

maybe i missed something but i dont recall the bedard/hill comparison and love being expressed.

#48 Re: The fools are

Submitted by Rich_Hill_is_av... on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:23pm.

Maybe not here, but the fools over at NSBB>

#49 Re: The fools are

Submitted by The Joe on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:26pm.

Ok, now I get it. Alright, thanks for coming here to criticize them.

In other news, Fukudome is really struggling. All those fools who were comparing him to Vladimir Guerrero sure look stupid now! Idiots.

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#51 Re: The fools are

Submitted by Rich_Hill_is_av... on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:29pm.

haha another one who thinks Hill is just as good as bedard.

FWIW, i'll be here all season and when Hill finishes with a 4.40 ERA and you can no longer use the "it's spring traing dude" excuse, I'll remind you of Hill's 2 pitch average ass.

BTW, i've had this username before his suktacular ST.

#53 Re: The fools are

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:45pm.

psst...

this isnt a competition.

#56 Re: The fools are

Submitted by The Joe on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 7:50pm.

And when that happens, you'll find an army of overly impressed readers. You will be the king of prognostication and we shall bow down before you.

Oh wait, nevermind...no one gives a shit.

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#52 Re: The fools are

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:44pm.

i dunno if its funny or sad that a lotta people compare fuku to a young/prime mark grace...from expected output at the bat to quality of D (though at a significantly different position).

even if fuku performs on that level he's simply a "solid" player rather than a guy who carries the team. yeah, you cant have a team of Arods unless you wanna spend $200+m and anything complimenting dlee/soriano/aram is bonus...still...

he's gonna K a lot...hopefully he'll walk a good amount, take pitches, manage to put 15-20 over the fence, and stick somewhere around a .350ob%...

#42 Re: Rich Hill is an average pitcher at best

Submitted by JoePepitone on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 5:51pm.

"(Jesus said) But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell." Matthew 5: 22.

Who pissed in your cornflakes? Care to overreact a little?

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#43 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by MikeC on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:08pm.

The only fool i see is using spring training stats to go "See i told you so!"

By using this guys logic Rich Hill is wayyyy better than Bedard. Erik Bedard has a 9.69 ERA in spring training and he isnt striking out anyone.

Ohhhh i am sorry did i poke a hole in your stupid analysis? Poor fool.

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#50 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Rich_Hill_is_av... on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:26pm.

YOu can't even compute Rich Hill's spring ERA! I"m perfectly aware that this is Spring Training but I was saying this in the off season. Bedard is getting hit hard because he's working on a cutter.

So are you saying Rich Hill is as good as bedard? Are you? And you're calling meeee stupid?? HAHAHA.

Sure sounds like you're saying Hill is just as good as Bedard to me.

#44 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Ryno on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:11pm.

Cotts lowered his ERA to a robust 9.00 today, so that's nice.

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#55 Re: Cotts lowered his ERA to a robust 9.00 today

Submitted by navigator on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 7:20pm.

Maybe Cotts is our closer.

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#46 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by MikeC on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:12pm.

Ohh so Cotts is as good as Erik Bedard? Coolness.

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#47 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by Romero on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:23pm.

NO! Cotts is BETTER!

:)

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#54 Re: Gameday Open Thread / Rockies @ Cubs

Submitted by MCCLUBB34 on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 6:53pm.

"Bedard is getting hit hard because he's working on a cutter"

And it's not possible that Hill working on his changeup and cutter? You're argument sucks. No one is saying Hill is as good as Bedard.

Maybe you can't compute Hill's spring ERA, but according to my calculations its 7.11 which is better than Bedard's. So according to your own spring training argument, Hill is indeed a better pitcher than Bedard.

So who do you think is better?

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