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SP Jeff Suppan SP Ted Lilly
(2007) 12-12, 4.62 (2007) 15-8, 3.83
2B Rickie Weeks SS Ryan Theriot
CF Gabe Kapler LF Alfonso Soriano
1B *Prince Fielder 1B Derrek Lee
LF Ryan Braun 3B Aramis Ramirez
3B Bill Hall RF *Kosuke Fukudome
RF Corey Hart 2B Mark DeRosa
SS JJ Hardy C Geovany Soto
P Jeff Suppan CF *Felix Pie
Jason Kendall P *Ted Lilly












The sun is shining over Lakeview, The Cub Reporter made it through April Fool's Day without hearing from a single corporate attorney, and the Cubs are only one game out of first. A good day to be alive.

The veteran Suppan (5-5, 3.15 lifetime against the Cubs) matches up with the veteran Lilly (1-1, 5.09 v. the Brewers). When we last saw Ted in a game that meant anything, you may recall, he was having a temper tantrum on national televison.

Despite the outburst, Lilly was all the Cubs could have hoped for in his first season on the North Side, tying his career high in wins (15) and setting career marks for starts (34) and innings pitched (207). Germane to today: in games following a loss last year, Lilly went 9-1.

In the category of "Ted Lilly, 2007: Fluke or Future?" Rob G. points to this list at It places Lilly in the company of other veteran pitchers like Jenkins, Marichal, Drysdale and Seaver; guys with years in which they threw 200+ innings, had an ERA+ of 120 or higher, and kept their WHIPs at 1.15 or lower in their age 31 seasons.

Finally, if you haven't picked a name in the "First Cub or Brewer To Tear His ACL" Pool, you might want to act now.


Ted Lilly Fan Club Super Computer (TLFCSC) says:

6 2/3 IP, 5H, 2 ER, 7 K. Ted goes 1-2 with the Nissan "Drive Of The Game." 10+ Babies named "Ted," 9 months from now.

A very optimistic Super Computer, we like it!

(BTW, We've played Van Halen's "Jump" about 1k times today)

The Cubs have yet to beat a lineup with the pitcher batting 8th this year.

"Ohhh, Who said that? Baby how've you been?!?"

Today's the day we climb out of last place! sucks...

what's the problem?

Not to nitpick Brother. But Lilly had 34 starts.

I appreciate a good nitpicker, but isn't that what it says?

"...setting career marks for starts (34)..."

I edited it, it did say 37.

Thanks, Rob. Thanks Aaron B.

This lineup SUCKS!!!!

I agree, Lou really needs to find a way to get Cliff Floyd or Kat Matsui into the lineup.

the link about the fast Wrigley surface was an interesting note. I noticed on the Counsell double in the 10th that the ball seemed to jump past Pie who certainly looked like he didn't expect it to fly past him like that.

And once again, I'm in office with lots of students, no recap from me. Will try to at least get into parachat. Go Cubs!

we'd score more runs.

Damn you, Fukudome!

I'm watching the game on ESPN GameCast, and I'm just wondering - are they accidentally showing a game from 2001? How is Jason Kendall suddenly a doubles machine? And he's caught two guys stealing in the last two games. That took him approximately an entire season last year.

One of those stolen bases was Aramis running on a hit and run with 2 strikes to Kfuk--Kfuk swung at ball four and missed, and they threw out Aramis easily. Not exactly your average CS.

Is my baseball logic just still in spring training form, or does a hit-and-run on a full count make no sense?

Not really a hit and run...

It was a "send the runner on a full count to avoid the double play, because Fuku typically makes contact and doesn't swing at bad pitches."

Also, for how deep this team supposedly is, why is Mike Fontenot the first guy off the bench? Replacing DeRosa's bat with Fontenot's when down 2 runs is usually not a successful solution.

It's way early, but they look sluggish just like they did for the first 2 months last year.

I think Fontenot was simply chosen because DeRosa made the last out and they play the same position.

I'm wondering how long before Soriano goes back to leading off to make him "comfortable" being that so far he is 0-season.

hopefully soon, whatever sends Theriot back down in the order...

How about Fuku moves to the leadoff spot? Obviously it's a small sample size, but he's shown great patience and a good eye at the plate.


That way, Soriano gets all the meatballs he wants with Aramis protecting him, and we might actually score some runs with Fuku on base followed by Doubles Lee.

Eh, probably makes too much sense.

Memo to Kevin Hart: walks to lead-off batters get you an all-expense-paid ticket to Des Moines.

Boy, does my Detroit vs Cubs World Series prediction look bad.

Doesn't Z know that Kazakhstan is the number one exporter of potassium, all other countries have inferior potassium.

So why does Cedeno get the nod to be the first right-handed pinch-hitter over Johnson? That move seems positively Dusty-esque.


not sure it mattered much in that situation, a righty was still on the mound. Probably thought Cedeno might go back in on a double-switch.




Dempster to stop the bleeding tomorrow.

says WSox and Cubs showing most interest in Crisp (still).

Don't make much sense with Johnson now...

Missed the game, but why do we suck? Is it 0-season Latin starters?

The season's two days old. Chill.

Wow. You're new to TCR....

Someone told me that Lou said after the game that he's planning on moving Soriano back to leadoff. Can anyone confirm this and did he give out any other details about how the lineup would look if he does so?

folks at NSBB heard the same thing, said theriot would go to the 2 spot

way to shuffle the deck chairs...

Jesus, they really look dead out there. When Lou starts putting on hit and runs to ignite a moribund offense, you know they're struggling. Oh well, at least Soto got going today.

he hit a homer which was nice...he looked like Barrett behind the plate.

How shitty is it that under ESPN's top performers, Kendall is posted with a picture of him in a Cubs hat...

Lou said in post game press conference.

He's been thinking about it since the end of spring training.

"His legs are feeling better."

Theriot batting second.

I would put Fbomb batting second.

I'd like to see:


(switch Theriot and Derosa if you want)

I will switch those two

says the Cubs told Z to chill with the caffeine btw...

does he down like 5 Red Bulls and 3 Starbucks before a game or something?

...back on the DL with a strained oblique. He pulled a muscle in his last at bat yesterday against the Iowa Hawkeyes, so it's back to Arizona for two weeks.

Oh Crap!
Computer model saying the brewers will win the division

had fitful dreams of us losing.

this one i was at a party and daisuke matsuzaka walks out of a room with a beer in his hand and tells me too bad about the game.

dream changes and im riding an atv through a forest and come upon a campground with a giant neon scoreboard that has our final being 8-2 brewers.

got out of bed at 3:30 am to see the weeks leadoff homer and couldnt sleep after that so just kept up with the game, then went back to bed after the friggin throwing error by soto.


fuck the damned lineup when are sorry-ano and aramiss gonna get that BA over .000?

lou's solved it all...2 games is enough for theriot/soriano 1/2 to be its soriano/theriot 1/2.

100 wins here we come.

This is idiotic--when you're the highest paid hitter on the team you should be able to man up and hit wherever it helps the team most. For Soriano, that's probably 5th.

As a low OBP, power hitter who can't run at full speed because of injuries, he belongs nowhere near the leadoff spot.

In addition, Lou needs to stop making hasty decisions. Let's not forget that Soriano is a very streaky hitter and that his recent 0-9 may have more to do with his streakyness than where he has hit in the order. Oh, and what's the team batting in the first two games? Could it just be that they've been temporarily over-matched?


its not like the guy steals 50 bases with a stellar sb%...put those 40+doubles, 30+hr to use.

and yeah, soriano's going 0-10 is about as surprising and likely as him going 5-10 it seems. see ball, swing...

Yeah two games in and we are already moving around the lineup? I thought that was what ST was for to tinker with that stuff. And were just flip flopping #1/#2? Whatever...

Last year Lou made the excuse that he didn't know his team and that was mainly the reason why he used so many lineups, not sure what the excuse will be this year. Get a damn lineup and stick to it. While I don't want to see Theriot or Alf in the 1 or 2 slots, just let's get into some kind of set plan here. If Wood has another horrible outing is he going to drop him from closer too?

That's easy.

No Brian Roberts.

I called the Soriano move above mid-game - whatever makes Soriano feel better psychologically seems to help the offense ignite. He doesn't look like he is running any better to me, my guess is that Lou is just using the legs as an excuse to move him where he wants to try him.

I haven't seen much positive so far, but the outfield defense and arms are impressive. That strike that Pie threw to the plate was a hell of a lot closer than I thought it would be.

Hey Rob G. and Trans, in one of the sidebar boxes could you guys put the Cubs schedule?

If we're making requests, I have one. Could you perhaps post a link to the Gameday for the day's game? I know that other Cubs blog we love to hate on does it. And since a lot of us follow the games by computer it might be helpful.

I would like e-mail or SMS notifications of new postings. Better yet, just stream TCR postings directly into my brain.

You can get the latest postings via email by going to that link. There's a little subscribe box.

One more link I have to scramble for each day, I'd prefer not different folks use different game trackers. I've always liked the CBS sportsline one myself.

I haven't found a widget or anything that updates automatically yet, if someone does, let me know.


Good thing our stopper is pitching tomorrow.

Heading into chicago to see the game saturday, which will be the 5th game, assuming no rainout. With the offday can we except to see Z or marquis as scheduled? I'd assume since Marquis is on the 25 man roster, he'll get the nod. if they planned on skipping his start they'd have an extra pen arm, but what do i know. Looks like Hill friday and marquis sat. But i hope otherwise so anyone who knows better, let me know. thanks!

According to in the "Probable Starters" link. Marquis pitches Saturday. I am going Sunday, and Z is supposed to start. Sorry. It will be his first start sans-caffeine. We'll see how that goes...he could get pulled because of withdrawal symptoms.

Sat- Marquis Vs Oswalt
Sun= Z vs Backe

According to Houston broadcasters last night on MLB extra innings.

You guys see the write-up on Yahoo! about A-Rod making more money this year than the Marlins are spending on their entire roster? While amusing, something isn't right about that.

Yeah, it's definitely not right that the team owner gets to pocket all that revenue sharing money and still complain about the team not making enough money to field a competitive team, and with no repercussions. Oh wait, and what about that brand-spanking-new, absolutely free of cost ball park? Oh, and the fact that the value of his team on the open market has skyrocketed? Check out THT. They did a good write up on it a month or so ago that I'm too lazy to link to.

Marlin's management is shit in epic proportions. I really feel bad for the players, coaches, and fans. It's kind of like the movie Major League.

If the Marlins were a publicly traded company and we were shareholders, we'd be singing management's praises. From a fan's perspective they're shit, but from a profit perspective they're geniuses.

You are not going to reap profits, not for long when your major league baseball team pulls in crowds of 400.

not that this happens but what if dempster is our 2nd best
starter this year say wins 15 games
if its gonna happen ya know it will on his walk year.

Just confirmation of the switch.

"Beginning with Thursday’s series finale, left fielder Alfonso Soriano will move back to the leadoff spot from No. 2, flip-flopping with shortstop Ryan Theriot.";_ylt=AulMBJZ8I6ZP...

I never liked moving Soriano to the second slot anyways, but come on, it's only been two games.

I wonder if Soriano moped around or even approached Lou for the switch.

I mean he wouldn't take the field a couple of Spring Trainings ago when he was to start his first game in LF for Nationals.

Theriot's OBP is about 30 or 40 points better historically in the #2 slot than at leadoff and Soriano has always said he's more comfortable in the leadoff spot. I like the move, but I think it's ridiculous we didn't start the season out this way. Fuckin' McFail.

It's April 3 and were still brought to you by motorola.

I think you need to delete your cookies/temporary files 10man. Motorola's been gone for awhile.

I'd like to see:

No idea why you would want your highest OBP batting 5th.

Lineup construction isn't a major deal to me, but based on who is starting everyday, I would have it:


So Dempster's our stopper this series - yikes, hope the wind's blowing in today.

I'll raise you one Dmac. While we're wishing, I hope that the winds howls in when the Brewers are up, and that it howls out when the Cubs are up. Of course, this would inevitably end up biting us in the ass, with the Cubs hitting several foul balls that blow fair and are caught, while the brewers hit several bloopers that get blown down in front of the outfielders, for singles....

I heard a sound bite 30 minutes ago in ESPN1000, I believe it was from today's pregame conference.

Basically Lou said he doesn't need to explain or defend his changes, that it is what it is.

T minus 10 to Lou blow up if they lose today.

Did Lou say, "I'm the decider!" ?

His answer was "so?"

They just showed that press conference on the Lead Off Man - I thought it was hilarious.

Even if you hate his moves you have to say that Lou has the stones to do whatever he wants to do and doesn't give a shit what the media says.

the guy became the first cubs manager in decades to refuse to do a press conference after a game...twice...the first time he didn't give them the respect of telling someone he wasn't coming out til people went to find him to ask him "wtf?"

ultimately it doesnt mean crap cuz its just the media, but he's not as slick with them as some managers.

they love it when he's in a good mood, but he can be a bit of a prima-dona on the media front when he's "in a bad mood".

Soriano LF
Theriot SS
Lee 1B
ARam 3B
Fukudome RF
DeRosa 2B
Soto C
Pie CF
Dempster P

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