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Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Cubnut on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 11:41am

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SP Jeff Suppan SP Ted Lilly
(2007) 12-12, 4.62 (2007) 15-8, 3.83
       
2B Rickie Weeks SS Ryan Theriot
CF Gabe Kapler LF Alfonso Soriano
1B *Prince Fielder 1B Derrek Lee
LF Ryan Braun 3B Aramis Ramirez
3B Bill Hall RF *Kosuke Fukudome
RF Corey Hart 2B Mark DeRosa
SS JJ Hardy C Geovany Soto
P Jeff Suppan CF *Felix Pie
C
 Jason Kendall P *Ted Lilly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The sun is shining over Lakeview, The Cub Reporter made it through April Fool's Day without hearing from a single corporate attorney, and the Cubs are only one game out of first. A good day to be alive.

The veteran Suppan (5-5, 3.15 lifetime against the Cubs) matches up with the veteran Lilly (1-1, 5.09 v. the Brewers). When we last saw Ted in a game that meant anything, you may recall, he was having a temper tantrum on national televison.

Despite the outburst, Lilly was all the Cubs could have hoped for in his first season on the North Side, tying his career high in wins (15) and setting career marks for starts (34) and innings pitched (207). Germane to today: in games following a loss last year, Lilly went 9-1.

In the category of "Ted Lilly, 2007: Fluke or Future?" Rob G. points to this list at Baseball-Reference.com. It places Lilly in the company of other veteran pitchers like Jenkins, Marichal, Drysdale and Seaver; guys with years in which they threw 200+ innings, had an ERA+ of 120 or higher, and kept their WHIPs at 1.15 or lower in their age 31 seasons.

Finally, if you haven't picked a name in the "First Cub or Brewer To Tear His ACL" Pool, you might want to act now.

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#1 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Ted Lilly Fan Club on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 11:53am.

Ted Lilly Fan Club Super Computer (TLFCSC) says:

6 2/3 IP, 5H, 2 ER, 7 K. Ted goes 1-2 with the Nissan "Drive Of The Game." 10+ Babies named "Ted," 9 months from now.

A very optimistic Super Computer, we like it!

(BTW, We've played Van Halen's "Jump" about 1k times today)

#2 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by jacos on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 11:56am.

The Cubs have yet to beat a lineup with the pitcher batting 8th this year.

"Ohhh, Who said that? Baby how've you been?!?"

#3 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Wes on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:03pm.

Today's the day we climb out of last place!

#4 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:07pm.

mlb.tv sucks...

#41 mlb.tv sucks...

Submitted by navigator on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 4:54pm.

what's the problem?

#5 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:11pm.

Not to nitpick Brother. But Lilly had 34 starts.

#8 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Cubnut on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:17pm.

I appreciate a good nitpicker, but isn't that what it says?

"...setting career marks for starts (34)..."

#9 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:22pm.

I edited it, it did say 37.

#10 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Cubnut on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:28pm.

Thanks, Rob. Thanks Aaron B.

#6 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Jace on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:16pm.

This lineup SUCKS!!!!

#11 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:40pm.

I agree, Lou really needs to find a way to get Cliff Floyd or Kat Matsui into the lineup.

#7 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:16pm.

the link about the fast Wrigley surface was an interesting note. I noticed on the Counsell double in the 10th that the ball seemed to jump past Pie who certainly looked like he didn't expect it to fly past him like that.

#12 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Transmission on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 12:43pm.

And once again, I'm in office with lots of students, no recap from me. Will try to at least get into parachat. Go Cubs!

#13 If Kosuke were batting second

Submitted by navigator on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 1:34pm.

we'd score more runs.

#14 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by jacos on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 1:37pm.

Damn you, Fukudome!

#15 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Doug Dascenzo on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 1:54pm.

I'm watching the game on ESPN GameCast, and I'm just wondering - are they accidentally showing a game from 2001? How is Jason Kendall suddenly a doubles machine? And he's caught two guys stealing in the last two games. That took him approximately an entire season last year.

#16 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by SheffieldCornelia on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 1:57pm.

One of those stolen bases was Aramis running on a hit and run with 2 strikes to Kfuk--Kfuk swung at ball four and missed, and they threw out Aramis easily. Not exactly your average CS.

#18 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Doug Dascenzo on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 2:01pm.

Is my baseball logic just still in spring training form, or does a hit-and-run on a full count make no sense?

#32 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by big_lowitzki on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 4:11pm.

Not really a hit and run...

It was a "send the runner on a full count to avoid the double play, because Fuku typically makes contact and doesn't swing at bad pitches."

#17 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Doug Dascenzo on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 1:57pm.

Also, for how deep this team supposedly is, why is Mike Fontenot the first guy off the bench? Replacing DeRosa's bat with Fontenot's when down 2 runs is usually not a successful solution.

#19 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by WISCGRAD on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 2:01pm.

It's way early, but they look sluggish just like they did for the first 2 months last year.

I think Fontenot was simply chosen because DeRosa made the last out and they play the same position.

I'm wondering how long before Soriano goes back to leading off to make him "comfortable" being that so far he is 0-season.

#22 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 2:27pm.

hopefully soon, whatever sends Theriot back down in the order...

#20 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Doug Dascenzo on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 2:05pm.

How about Fuku moves to the leadoff spot? Obviously it's a small sample size, but he's shown great patience and a good eye at the plate.

Fuku
Lee
Soriano
Aramis
DeRosa
Soto
Theriot
Pie
Pitcher

That way, Soriano gets all the meatballs he wants with Aramis protecting him, and we might actually score some runs with Fuku on base followed by Doubles Lee.

Eh, probably makes too much sense.

#21 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by garsky on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 2:06pm.

Memo to Kevin Hart: walks to lead-off batters get you an all-expense-paid ticket to Des Moines.

#23 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by jacos on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 2:30pm.

Boy, does my Detroit vs Cubs World Series prediction look bad.

#24 Low potassium culprit for Zambrano

Submitted by RIOTshirts.com on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 2:56pm.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080402&c...

Doesn't Z know that Kazakhstan is the number one exporter of potassium, all other countries have inferior potassium.

#25 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by garsky on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 3:19pm.

So why does Cedeno get the nod to be the first right-handed pinch-hitter over Johnson? That move seems positively Dusty-esque.

Anyone?

#26 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 3:30pm.

not sure it mattered much in that situation, a righty was still on the mound. Probably thought Cedeno might go back in on a double-switch.


#27 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by crunch on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 3:49pm.

HOLY F'N CRAP.

THAT SUCKED.

WOW. YEAH.

#28 Re: Game 2 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (2 of 3)

Submitted by jacos on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 3:49pm.

Dempster to stop the bleeding tomorrow.

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