Game 21 Thread / Cubs @ Rockies (1 of 2)

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SP *Rich Hill SP *Franklin Morales
  1-0, 3.86, 11 K, 10 BB 1-1, 6.60, 5 K, 11 BB
CF Reed Johnson CF Ryan Spilborghs
SS Ryan Theriot 2B Clint Barmes
1B Derrek Lee 1B *Todd Helton
3B Aramis Ramirez LF Matt Holliday
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 3B Garrett Atkins
LF Mark DeRosa RF *Brad Hawpe
C Geovany Soto SS Troy Tulowitzki
2B Ronny Cedeno C Yorvit Torrealba
*Rich Hill P *Franklin Morales












Rich Hill's flyball tendencies and big curve meet the thin air of Denver where he's 0-2 with 10.1 IP and an 11.32 ERA over his career. The Rockies counter with one of their many heroes from last year's late season surge to the NL pennant, Franklin Morales. 

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gaaaaaaaame time. woo!

If anyone has RCN in Chicago CSN+ is channel 371. It took me forever to find it so I figured I would save someone the effort

Is anyone trying to watch the game on comcast HD (174)? I've got no sound on that channel...booooooo.

I had no sound on my CSN+ HD feed at the start of the game, but it's working fine now...

I can't get to load the game. Neither firefox or explorer works. Give me back my money!

I've been watching on since the start of the game, no problem.

Sorry to hear you're having trouble :(

I'm officially off the Murton bandwagon.

yeah, horrible timing for a strike out. Should've put Ward up there instead.

Yea, the strikeout was rough, but in the bigger picture, Murton does not seem to be developing at all. I don't think we've seen enough of him to say for certain that he is regressing, but you'd like to see some growth out of the guy.

I think I'm starting to see why Murton wasn't called up right away when Soriano went down. Something is wrong with his swing; he's just not this bad. What is with the long stretches of pounding the ball into the ground? This is a guy who needs to hit the ball in the air more. He isn't Juan Pierre, and it isn't even working for Juan these days.

Yes!!!! A-RAM gives us back the lead in the top of the 9th with a two run shot :)

Man, was that huge. Let's hope Woody can close this one out.

Well, they tied it up, but atleast Kerry got 3 K's....and didn't let them get ahead.

Good to see Theriot come through with the RBI.

I think there may be just as many Cub fans in the stands there :)

9 games over.

Wow, it sure is exciting to see the Cubs win another game they probably could have easily lost (and most certainly would have blown in 2007).

Cubs win!!!

I think I like this team...

Today's game was full of drama, but turned out the right way for Cubs fans. I'll take it as long as it's a W. A-Ram, Soto, Lee, and Cedeno all had very nice days at the plate, while Theriot came through late.

10,000 wins. Congratulations, Chicago Cubs.

is this team serious?

is this heaven?

GO Cubs!!

got to give Lou alot of credit for how he uses his players----again, no position player left on bench when game ended---he goes for the victory now, doesn't worry about next inning----in both of Woods blown saves, Pitt and tonight, he didn't lose the game after giving up the tying run--that shows alot, good to see him k the side also---total team victory, only players not in game were Hart and the other starting pitchers(Marquis ran in 10th)--great game!!!

"-again, no position player left on bench when game ended---he goes for the victory now, doesn't worry about next inning----in both of Woods blown saves,"

Just like in game 1 of the NLDS when he pulled Zambrano? Also, for the record, it's Wood. Not Woods. Woods is a really really good golfer.

Pretty sure that was just a plural that he missed the apostrophe on..."In both of Wood's blown saves..."

That is my bad then and I apologize.

What an awesome game. Another decent showing by R-Ced. And Soto cannot be stopped. I love this team.

Nice win. Would have liked to see Wood close it out in the 9th but the result is the same. This team is firing on all cylinders right now. Lets go for the sweep!

And the Cubs are tied for the best record in baseball.

So great to see the Cubs playing so well. I really like this team. Having been to 5 home games this year it really is a different feel around Wrigley. The players just seem different. It is amazing.

I honestly don't want Soriano to come back. This is a TEAM right now and Soriano is the farest from a team player there is. All he cares about is himself and getting what is best for him. If he didn't he wouldn't insist upon hitting lead-off.

I love to see Cedeno and Soto playing the way they are; all we can hope is that this continues.

I honestly don't want Soriano to come back. This is a TEAM right now and Soriano is the farest from a team player there is. All he cares about is himself and getting what is best for him. If he didn't he wouldn't insist upon hitting lead-off.

I'm so tired of reading this. Since Soriano has been on the Cubs, when has he "insisted" on leading off? All I have ever seen him say was that he "prefers" leadoff but will bat wherever Lou wants him to.

From today's Trib:

He (Soriano) said he expects to bat first when he returns but will do whatever Piniella tells him to do.

How does anyone interpret this comment as Soriano being a selfish player that is insisting he lead off? What am I missing?

Agreed, LNL. Soriano is not the most talented player on the team nor is he worth his $136 million contract. But he is certainly a very nice player to have and although I'd prefer he batted elsewhere in the lineup, I think he's a decent enough leadoff hitter because of his power. And this BS about being selfish is just that -- Soriano has always been described as a great team player and willing to do whatever is needed to win. If he's always returned to batting leadoff, it's only because it's clear to management that he's more comfortable there and thus hits better.

So yeah, posts like the one above are not only ignorant, they're borderline troll-ish. If Soriano is not on this team, as ThisIsTheYear wishes, I can guarantee that this will not be the year.

I don't think anyone on the Nationals would say he is a good team player. You are forgetting this is the same guy who threatened to sit out the entire year rather than play left field, that is until Diego Bentz convinced him otherwise, because he wanted to play second base. The only reason he took the field was because the Nationals were threatening that him sitting out the year wouldn't fulfill his contract and he would still have to honor the contract whenever he chose to play. Good final decision on his part; it got him a contract he in no way deserves.

So, NO, I don't think everyone he has played with would describe him as a good team player.

And, he hasn't only said he is more comfortable hitting leadoff, he uses it as an excuse when he doesn't hit well in other parts of the lineup. Last year when Lou dropped him for a couple games a reporter asked him why he was struggling and he said it was because he can't hit as well if he is not leading off games.

Interesting note: Jason Marquis 3-0 with a 2.49 ERA and 1.15 WHIP at Coors Field in his career. Lets hope he can keep that up today.

nice win, team. congrats to the cubs on 10,000.

rich hill deserved a better fate. if michael wuertz is the answer, what is the question?

i hope the kangaroo court clips d-lee for 50 or a 100, whatever the rate is these days. getting doubled off 2b could easily have been a stake through the heart; glad to see the club battle back.

was also intrigued by pie running for lee. i guess lou felt aram had a better chance of hitting a double or triple than a home run. is there any way to know if this is something he knew from statistics, or just going by his gut?

let's go marquis; would 3 sweeps in a row be asking too much?

i hope the kangaroo court clips d-lee for 50 or a 100, whatever the rate is these days. getting doubled off 2b could easily have been a stake through the heart; glad to see the club battle back.

Umm... did you watch the game?

Derek Lee had no chance on that play - it was just bad luck.

Cedeno hit a hard line drive about a step the shortstop's left, taking the shortstop right towards the second base bag.

Only a bad base runner (who didn't take a lead off) or a psychic base runner would have been able to get back to 2b.

Yeah it was hardly a Moises Alou kind of baserunning issue. He had no chance.

Agree that Lee had no chance -- just bad hitting luck.

However, it was DeRosa who hit the ball.

However, it was DeRosa who hit the ball.

Oops... you are right.

I agree as well. Can we institute a TCR Kangaroo Court that punishes people for saying stupid things like that? Maybe a donation to the TCR fund. Just a suggestion.

Go Marquis!

That actually would be a pretty interesting idea.

Some blogs have comment ratings systems to do that, but a TCR Kangaroo Court would be awesome.

Though I do not think that anyone would actually pay up.

I propose we do it in parachat! Those who don't comply get their username banned for a week. hehehe

Can we fine Dave for using "Ummm..." all the time? ;)

Can we institute a TCR Kangaroo Court that punishes people for saying stupid things like that? Maybe a donation to the TCR fund.

i prepaid for my stupidity a couple of weeks ago. when the meter expires, i am sure rob g. will send me another invoice. it's only fair that you know in advance i have far more stupidity than cash.

go cubs!

Umm... did you watch the game?

actually, this is one of the few innings i was able to watch. thanks very kindly for asking.

my judgement was too harsh. the ball was hit so hard any man would have been hung out to dry; the knowledge that a line drive must go through is trumped by the athletic instinct to get moving.

just a hypothetical but...had the game gone past 11-12 innings, who would have been called upon to long relieve?

Z or Dempster.

Marquis starts today and Lilly pitched the day before. Everyone else was used except Hart (who had pitched the day before so probably was good for 1-2 innings max).

Now that would have been interesting.

This team is reminding me a little bit of the '69 club -incredibly hot start, never give up attitude. But this team may be a lot deeper in bench strength, and that could be the critical difference.

I honestly don't want Soriano to come back. This is a TEAM right now and Soriano is the farest from a team player there is. All he cares about is himself and getting what is best for him. If he didn't he wouldn't insist upon hitting lead-off.

Yeah, because Soriano is such a detriment to the lineup. Maybe we could trade him for Kenny Lofton *crosses fingers*

... lol

Seriously, though, what a run. Cub's record the last three weeks?

15-4 !

Amazing. We all know things will cool off eventually, but still you want the highs to be high and you want to limit the damage of the lows.

Yeah it's only realistic that even good teams cool off eventually. Winning early is good though. Pile up the wins early and keep on rolling the rest of the year.

Exciting start to the season for sure. My reality check is this: the Brewers and Cards are starting pretty well too at 13-8 and 13-9 respectively. I think the Cubs are more likely to sustain their success than either of those two teams, but it isn't time for the Cubs to be feeling comfortable.

Yes...Prince going yard twice to beat Cole Hamels was a bit disturbing.

Brewers are 13-8 despite: playing a lot of road games, Gagne sucking and their big guns not really hitting yet. Concerning.

the brewers will probably be able to keep pace with the Cubs for most of the season but i doubt that the cards can sustain this pace.

I'm surprised no one is questioning Lou's use of Marquis to run, since he was set to pitch today. If only bc it did not turn out badly in this case, then that is not quite fair. Dumb plays work sometimes. A move like this by Dusty (may he torture the Red faithful for many years to come) wd have been lambasted, no?

It was just pinch running... not really sure what the problem would be.

Could he have possibly gotten hurt? Sure... but so could have anyone else.

I had and have no problem with Marquis running in that situation.

I have bigger problems with Pie running for Lee in the ninth.

I had bigger issues with Lou using up the bullpen in the 6th...seems like it was his first rodeo in Denver. Games aren't won too often 3-0 over there and I don't think using Lieber as a situational righty is a smart move. Marshall I understand because they view them as their only LOOGY and won't use him multiple innings. But they should have gone to Howry for a 1+ innings there and saved Lieber for later. Just no point in trying to save a 1-2 run lead in the 6th inning in Denver.

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  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 1 hour 35 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 4 hours 33 min ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 4 hours 45 min ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 4 hours 54 min ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 4 hours 59 min ago view
  • a 60" TV with slow-motion replay and multiple looks on that replay helps...a lot...

    it's one thing to shy away like he did the 2nd time, it's another to bail out of the box on a called strike. that happened in the 1st one he pulled away from. he misjudged that one by a foot or so...

    crunch 5 hours 18 min ago view
  • Good Hendricks sure is fun to watch. He was hitting all his corners today and the Phillies couldn't do anything with his changeup.

    johann 5 hours 54 min ago view
  • Bryant and I believe Zobrist both did that too.

    johann 6 hours 12 min ago view
  • Soler BB acumen and plate awareness is excellent. Not unusual for even the best players to react as if they were about to hit them, "even though they weren't that close" from your vantage point sitting on your deck, or wherever.

    The E-Man 6 hours 13 min ago view
  • soler vs inside breaking balls is scary.

    he's had 2 inside curve balls today where he reacted as if they were about to hit him even though they weren't that he bailed out of the box on, it was a called strike.

    crunch 6 hours 31 min ago view
  • j.urias optioned back to AAA...guess we wont be seeing him in the LAD series.

    crunch 6 hours 38 min ago view
  • so is him actually getting 2 hits in a game (2 doubles!)...first time he's even been on base 2 times in a game since 9 games ago on his 3/4, 1bb day.

    im ready for him to at least look like a 2-slot hitter since he's gonna be slotted there no matter what he does.

    crunch 7 hours 34 min ago view
  • That Heyward move to avoid Bryant's ball hit at him was a thing of beauty too.

    johann 7 hours 52 min ago view
  • 9 pitches in and this game already rules.

    HR, double...bryant's turn (who came out to a Kris Kross song for some horrible, horrible reason).

    ...2 run inning...zoobrest hitting streak at 14.

    crunch 7 hours 56 min ago view
  • First time I saw Herrera was yesterday. He took like 100 pitches, fouled off a ton off Lester.

    Very nice young player and perfect leadoff guy.

    The E-Man 9 hours 6 min ago view
  • Obviously not Phil. But he mentioned this on Wednesday.

    "Dominican Summer League (DSL) Opening Day is Saturday June 4th, so probably about 8-10 pitchers and position players presently at EXST in Mesa will be sent to the Cubs Dominican Academy (probably sometime this week) and be assigned to either DSL Cubs #1 or DSL Cubs #2."

    In the comments here:

    QuietMan 9 hours 45 min ago view