Game 33 Thread / Cubs @ Reds (2 of 3)

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SP Carlos Zambrano SP Aaron Harang
  4-1, 2.11, 35 K, 11 BB
1-4, 2.98, 41 K, 11 BB
LF Alfonso Soriano CF Ryan Freel
SS Ryan Theriot RF *Ken Griffey Jr.
1B Derrek Lee 2B Brandon Phillips
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Joey Votto
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 3B Edwin Encarnacion
C Geovany Soto LF *Adam Dunn
2B Ronny Cedeño SS Jeff Keppinger
CF *Felix Pie C *Paul Bako
P #Carlos Zambrano P Aaron Harang




Aramis Ramirez returns to the Cub lineup, and Ronny Cedeño gets a start at second base.

In the pitching matchup, Carlos Zambrano, who was one horrendous Kerry Wood inning away from winning his fifth game of the season last time out against Milwaukee, goes up against curveball-flingin' Aaron Harang, Zambrano beat the Reds in the middle contest of their three-game visit to Wrigley Field a few weeks back; Harang started the series opener and got smacked around (6 IP, 8 H, 5 ER) en route to a 9-5 Cubs win.

"Cubs win"...those are two words that haven't been used very often around here lately.

Other Tuesday notes:

— Today is the 10th anniversary of Wood's 20-strikeout game against the Astros

— Geovany Soto is coming off a single-double-homer hitting performance Monday night, the third time this season he has come up just a triple short of the cycle; I don't know what he's waiting for.

— Felix Pie's homer-robbing catch off Ken Griffey was Monday's Play of the Day on ESPN, but it was Adam Dunn's 750-foot homer against Ryan Dempster that got John Kruk to giggling.

— reports that "the visiting clubhouse at Great American Ball Park has been
redecorated, partly because of the mess the Cubs made last September
when they celebrated clinching the NL Central there." I wonder if Marty Brennaman was required to shampoo all the champagne stains out of the carpet and that's why he and his kid have become so insufferable where the Cubs are concerned.



who the hell is ronnie cedeno?

FYI, heard Lou in the pre-game.

"tonight, I gotta put people out there who can catch the ball, Cory."

He was pretty disgusted with how poor defensively the team is playing. Truly thought it was a team strength. Provis asked is, "fielding contagious?" and Lou responded that in his view it is an individual thing - whereas hitting tend to go in streaks. Really thought the team post good start would hover at the .500 mark in subsequent games played - not what they have been doing.

Mentioned Fonty needed to have gotten the sure out in his boot, and then thought about a DP, "He may be trying too hard..."

Such a difference in how he handles things, than Dusty.

people who can catch...soriano night off?

har har...sigh...

he needs to get back on track...badly.

and speaking of handling things different than dusty...seen the leadoff hitter lately?


and putting cedeno in a game after letting him rot for weeks after a hot start is worthy of applause and a great move?


i see other things than you're seeing outta that situation.

Yeah, right CRUNCH. Cedeno with a 2-out 2rbi hit!

You're a real genius CRUNCH. Lou is an imbicile! You should go manage the team! LOL!!

...and an error.

my point wasnt to demonize was to say all this managerial stuff is played out for heros and bums.

btw, i have no idea how you got to the cedeno conclusion. if he's so great why's he been rotting on the bench? that was more akin to my point.

kinda rips the heart outta your insult, i'll leave that one alone besides to say i guess i should manage. thanks.

Santo should have called in sick. I can't stand to listen to him tonight.

Santo sounded like a dying toad.

Love the Cedeno play, just came about a week too late. We have to keep Soto 5th.


Adding to our thread on Thom. Here was a nice gem from tonight's game:

TB: "I don't know if it is sentiment or lunacy, but many experts have picked the Cubs to reach the World Series this year."

You stay classy Thom...

start ronnie, good things happen

Do you think Thom's a little bitter?

Nothing tastier than a victory taco.


Gavin Floyd with his second "hmm-hmm" bid of the season. This is pretty much the only time you'll ever see me pleasantly tune into a White Sox broadcast with Hawk and DJ.

Though, I abide by the "you can put it on mute, YEEES!" rule, so it's all good.

1) Since his absolutely horrendous start, salary valedictorian Alfonso Soriano has hit safely in 12 of his last 13 games, raising his batting average 145 points from a respectable .045 to a scorching .190.

Give the man a raise!

2) Felix Pie goes 1 for 4 and actually raises his average.

Who says being roomates doesn't have it's advantages?

Nice edit ;)

Yeah, I love that new edit function. Makes the pain of leaving MVN a lot easier to bear.

Gavid Floyd just lost it. Mauer with a slicing fly ball just past Quentin. Good job, Hawk!

Sigh. The kid looked all giddy even after he lost it. Nice game!

lets win a series now

If Hendry could somehow pull the wool over the Pirates' eyes again, Nate McLouth would look real nice in CF.

I was thinking the same thing when they announced he had hit a homer.

I missed an entire three dayz of Cub games because I was out of the country - in Euro no less. And then I come back to internets, and beer, and a lawn that needs mowing. And the Cubs finally winning again. London Times relaying very unfriendly messages, but it's so f'ing good to be home.

I will return to this space with coherence, I promise.

I literally want to cry when I see those highlights.

I wish they had they had Pitch F/X for that list pitch to Derrek Bell. I want to know the break on that pitch.

gotta love the mark grace quote on the incident...

"He was electric. He's too young and stupid to understand what he just did. He's just a baby. He's only 20, for crying out loud."

Kevin fuckin' Orie - should've been a no-hitter.

Brewers have lost 4 straight since their uplifting gift from the Cubs.

Baseball. Go figure.

The Cubs are very sensitive about that. They like to make you look good even if you aren't.

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  • jacos 25 min 54 sec ago view
  • For sure! Russell and Baez are the first infielders in a while to make me think of star defensive players in football or basketball--it's almost like they force turnovers, and they definitely play the field with a degree of athletic aggression I'd expect from a linebacker.

    [Edit: Was meant to be a response to JB above.]

    Charlie 1 hour 31 min ago view
  • tebow hit a HR in the 1st pitch he sees in instructs..lulz.

    crunch 1 hour 38 min ago view
  • I don't think his issue(s) will have anything to do with it. He hasn't hit since he's been back. Coghlan has the hot hand.

    Tito 4 hours 3 min ago view
  • I'm not a denier but definitely a skeptic on Strop and Grimm, who struggle with fastball control. Strop doesn't go near the ninth inning, and note how Grimm couldn't close the deal even with a 5-run lead. So Felix Pena comes in and gets the 3-pitch game-ending strikeout like it was nothing.

    And how about Almora missing that very catchable ball? That was unexpected after all the hype about his glove.

    When Trea Turner misses balls like that--which he does--I draw conclusions from it. It seems to be the one chink in his armor. But I'll give Almora another chance.

    VirginiaPhil 4 hours 7 min ago view
  • Assuming Soler is good to go, I think it comes down to 3 of the following 4: Coghlan, TLS, Sczcur, Almora. Of the 4, TLS seems to be the hardest to justify, particularly given his behavioral issues.

    billybucks 4 hours 12 min ago view
  • I'm wondering if both Coghlan and LaStella make it. With Javy being able to play all the infield spots and Joe maybe wanting late-inning D when Soler plays (assuming he plays), hence either Szczur or Almora, I think LaStella might be the odd guy out.

    Tito 4 hours 15 min ago view
  • Hendricks needs the win, anyway, plus a couple more.

    My hunch is that Hendricks wins the Cy Young . . . for Lester. That is, without Hendricks tipping the scale toward the Cubs, Scherzer tops Lester.

    VirginiaPhil 4 hours 28 min ago view
  • Old Cub fans remember when Ken Hubbs died at 22 in the crash of a small plane he was piloting in a storm in Utah in 1964. But Hubbs was not an elite power pitcher like Score and Fernandez. Score lived a long time after the accident but it was (effectively) career-ending.

    VirginiaPhil 4 hours 32 min ago view
  • HAGSAG: Since I've only seen them throw in one game and in one "live" BP session, all I can do is provide initial first impressions.

    Brailyn Marquez is listed at 6'4 but is probably more like 6'5 or 6'6. I would describe him as a younger version of Bryan Hudson, throwing a ton of ground balls but not getting a lot of swings & misses (yet). Because of his size he could eventually grow into more velocity, but right now he's mostly a pitch-to-contact guy. He generally throws strikes.

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 37 min ago view
  • Phil, do Marquez and Ocampo look like prospects?

    Hagsag 8 hours 22 min ago view
  • It helps when your defense has declared war against the H in WHIP.

    Still impressive.

    John Beasley 8 hours 24 min ago view
  • Lackey finishes with a 3.35 ERA. Currently good for 13th in the NL. Not bad for a guy signed to be a #3 starter in a 15-team league.

    He is also 6th in WHIP. Pretty amazing: Cubs have the #2, #3, #5 and #6 starters in WHIP.

    billybucks 15 hours 19 min ago view
  • Completely meaningless game, but Pena striking out Sean the Turd to with the bases loaded was very fun.

    Other than one bad game in SD, Pena has been very good. Even with that game, 9.0 IP, 13 K, 0.89 WHIP.

    billybucks 15 hours 23 min ago view
  • 101 wins...most since 1910 (104).

    neat. ...or sad. pick one. pick both. 'murica.

    crunch 15 hours 39 min ago view
  • Just looked up Grimm's stats -- after a great run, he gave up 2 runs vs. MIL then didn't pitch for 10 days. Don't remember why?

    billybucks 15 hours 41 min ago view