NL Central Smackdown: The Aces

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I had to take a little break to bash Brenneman yesterday, but NL Central Smackdown is back. I was going to just try and cover all the pitching in one post and have you guys vote on the pitching staffs as a whole. But who really want to decide between Brandon Backe vs Braden Looper. On the other hand, the crown for the best staff ace is worthy of discussion.

Let's see how it breaks down...

Player 3-Year Warp-3 Average
3 Year Warp-3 Projection
Rob's Ranking
Carlos Zambrano
8.1 4.1 3
Ben Sheets 5.13 3.47 4
Adam Wainwright 7 (1 year) 3.6 5
Roy Oswalt
8.7 4.57 2
Aaron Harang
8.3 4.9 1
Ian Snell 4.43 3.6 6


 

 

 

 

 


The Justification: I just put Ian Snell in there so the Pirates didn't feel slighted. I won't even bother putting him in the poll. The list doesn't even include Chris Carpenter and Yovani Gallardo. And once again I remind everyone, I did these rankings before the year started.

It was pretty much a toss-up between Harang, Oswalt and Z for the top spot and if Ben Sheets could stay healthy, he's probably got the best stuff of the group. Z had been on a steady decline since 2004 in ERA and his peripheral numbers so I knocked him down to the three spot. Oswalt just got nudged by Harang due to my concerns over his dropping K rate. And Wainwright hadn't quiten proven himself to be considered with those heavyweights.

But now it's 2008 and Z is looking as good as ever, while Oswalt and Harang struggle out of the gate. Although in Harang's case, he's just not getting much run support. Sheets has been healthy for the most part and dominating and Wainwright has been matching all of them start for start.

So how say you? There's another poll for you guys to fill out below this and I'll leave the old polls open until we finish this.

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Comments

There is very little that separates 1 - 4.

If Z's demeanor matches up with his talent (like what he is doing so far this season) then he is a stand out 1st and the rest of these guys fight for 2nd.

I'm not really up on WARP 3. What's with the precipitous drop off for all these guys (esp. Z, Oswalt, & Harang) from the past three years to the future projections? Is it age and abuse or what?

I ranked them thusly:

Harang
Zambrano
Sheets
Wainwright
Oswalt
Pirates?

Maybe a little homerism, but Z is very durable. That's worth alot, despite his inconsistency.

On Oswalt, I am probably biased by the fact that I saw him get knocked around at Wrigley this year, he seems to have lost something off his stuff.

Only one more year of Sheets for us. I nominate him as "Most Likely to Get a Large Contract Offer from the New York Yankees this coming offseason"

Ben "Mark Prior" Sheets has to be last in my book. You just can't be a great ace from the training room and/or during rehab starts.

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  • yes. I was at the Sean Marshall game in LF. Lou Piniella was managing.

    On a 6 degrees of separation note: Cubs got Travis Wood in the trade that sent Sean Marshall to Cincy.

    Cubster 4 min 3 sec ago view
  • i like how strop played LF with his "crooked cap" look...that's not just for the mound.

    crunch 7 min 59 sec ago view
  • let baez pitch the 15th, he earned it.

    crunch 18 min 29 sec ago view
  • Forget the save, finally Javier!!

    cubbies.4ever 18 min 56 sec ago view
  • Can a pitcher get more than one hold in a game? Or a Win and a save?

    cubbies.4ever 21 min 56 sec ago view
  • Didn't they do this sort of thing with Sean Marshall years back? Sticking him in LF to save him to face others, but without a pitcher replacing him in LF.

    cubbies.4ever 31 min 8 sec ago view
  • This is the most beautiful thing ever.

    Transmission 35 min 12 sec ago view
  • all i wanna know is...when's d.ross gonna pitch?

    crunch 38 min 27 sec ago view
  • Maddon is over-managing the shit out of this game.

    Rob G. 40 min 28 sec ago view
  • yeah. ...or not...

    i was a bit more confused why the guy who gave up a HR to votto last night was facing him with 2 men on.

    ...now that wood is coming in to pitch the following inning, the whole thing gets weirder. so like, okay.

    crunch 40 min 38 sec ago view
  • Javy 0-6. At least he's consistent.

    The E-Man 49 min 35 sec ago view
  • Sweet play.

    What's with the Travis Wood stuff? Is it because he pitched the last 2 games?

    Rob G. 50 min 30 sec ago view
  • peralta (and maddon) owes zobrist a coke.

    crunch 52 min 53 sec ago view
  • #cantpredictball

    Rob G. 1 hour 19 sec ago view
  • The Reds bullpen -- statistically one of the worst in the history of baseball -- has no-hit the Cubs for 7 innings. That just sucks.

    billybucks 1 hour 1 min ago view
  • Nice inning from Carl Edwards Jr - two straight quality appearances for a pen that could use it.

    Eric S 1 hour 27 min ago view