Game 58 Thread / Cubs @ Padres (1 of 3)

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SP Carlos Zambrano SP Cha Seung Baek

7-1, 2.33, 55 K, 24 BB, 81 IP
1-1, 5.23, 18 K, 13 BB, 31 IP




LF Alfonso Soriano CF *Jody Gerut
SS Ryan Theriot 2B Tadahito Iguchi
1B Derrek Lee RF *Brian Giles
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Adrian Gonzalez
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff
CF *Jim Edmonds C Michael Barrett
2B Mark DeRosa SS Khalil Greene
C Henry Blanco LF *Paul McAnulty
P #Carlos Zambrano P Cha Seung Baek

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Cubs try to extend their winning streak to eight as they travel out West to face the struggling San Diego Padres. As Dr. Hecht mentioned earlier, the Cubs will get emergency starter Cha Seung Baek instead of Shawn Estes, who broke his thumb tripping on the way to the dugout. You can leave the Cubs, but Cubbery follows you everywhere.

For the Cubs, it's Carlos Zambrano, fresh off a 130 pitch effort against the Dodgers last week. Lou has already mentioned that he'll likely be on a shorter leash than usual. Hopefully it's not too short, as you'd like to keep his .316 hitting bat in the lineup.

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Yay! Z vs. Barrett!

BARRETT!

Freaking 9:39 PM and I'm watching Cubs Pregame. Ugh... stupid west coast games (apologies to Rob).

what am I, chopped liver?

I once had a stripper in Vegas ask me that. I was busy ogling the hot, scantily-clothed chick who was selling test tube shooters, ignoring the somewhat less attractive naked (waist up, anyway) woman on stage right in front of me. She leaned down off the stage, touched my arm to get my attention and asked me if she was chopped liver.

I thought I was going to be thrown out when I responded, "yeah, pretty much."

I chose wisely. Whereas the stage is a do not touch zone, shooter babe sits on your lap while peddling her wares. ;)

So RobG is a shooter girl?

Oh, come ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN Soriano~~~~~!!!

Just fucking ridiculous.

comment by announcers. "did he break back on the ball?"

and then the roof falls in on Z...

Bad time for a DP Aramis....

Padre announcer complaining "Edmonds didn't hit like this when he was with us." Kind of gives me satisfaction to having to listen to the home broadcast.

edmonds is really getting the bat around quicker lately. just 2 weeks ago he looked pretty washed up. good stuff. too bad he's not the defender he once was.

hope he can keep it up at least to some form of respectable level.

well that was an adventure....marmol may have just cost himself an allstar spot.

watching the cubs keep tacking on runs and the penguins and red wings battle forever tonight was a fantastic late night of sports watching. awesome on both sides.

DEEETROIT SUCKS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1BFfTf8MNE

"marmol may have just cost himself an allstar spot."

Good!!

He can spend the three days icing his arm.

Amen.

Those announcers are douchebags. They were looking for any possible way to criticize the Cubs...guess that's what happens when your team sucks and you're playing a good team.

Anyway, I was especially annoyed when the colorman (can't remember who does it) basically predicted Tommy Johns for Marmol. WTF? He almost sounding happy to make that prediction. Yeah, they've got a good pitcher, but his deliver will get him injured.

pretty brutal last night...were way over the top bagging on Soriano on two separate plays. The plays deserved some criticism, but they seemed confused about their place in the standings and the Cubs.

I wonder if the announcers are bitter over the number of Cub fans in attendence.

A phenomana foreign to the Cubs home games, except for against Cardinals and White Sox.

I think they enjoy their own little universe and are not use to hearing loud roars when the visiting does well.

See Marty Brennaman and his gay son Thom.

could be...the phenomenon in San Diego is quite something. Easily 50/50 crowd, I would almost guess 70/30 in favor of the Cubs at some games I've been to...

Marmol pitched for the 7th time in the last 10 days yesterday, and straddled the 8th/9th inning, to boot.

Lou keeps that up, and TJ surgery will be one of a list of procedures Marmol will need.

On the highlight, it looked as if Piniella defensive subbed for Sori in left field. Is that the case? And who played left?

I think it was a double-switch when Marmo came in in the 8th. In any event, a good thing -- not sure if Fonzie would have caught that last ball....

fyi, it was Reed. I definitely felt more confident with him running down Barrett's last ball than Sori. +1 for Lou.

Thanks guys.

Both Berkman and Chipper are prompting talks of someone hitting .400 again. I think Z definitely wants in on that. All he needs to do now is to convince Lou to get him enough AB's to qualify.

CUBSTER:

Saw this in the Sun Times:

Injured reliever Chad Fox was examined by surgeon James Andrews, who confirmed the Cubs staff's original diagnosis for the tingling and numbness in his pitching elbow: ulnar neuritis.

I believe you covered this, but what is ulnar neuritis? Will Chad Fox' arm fall off at the elbow?

According to MLB.tv Barry and Sammy never existed.

http://deadspin.com/5012214/mlbtv-ignores-the-exis...

but what is ulnar neuritis? Will Chad Fox' arm fall off at the elbow?
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His elbow not fall off, unless someone with an axe gets loose in the clubhouse.

-itis means inflammation, and the prefix neur- refers to nerve, so in Fox's case it's inflammation of the ulnar nerve.

the rest of it is covered here:

http://www.thecubreporter.com/2008/05/20/out-foxed

I like Lou's straightforward response re: Wuertz:

Piniella was also not pleased with the performance of reliever Michael Wuertz, and once again threatened to call up another relief pitcher, perhaps even by Tuesday.

“We’ve talked about 13 pitchers here in the past, and I think we’re going to have to start talking about it again,” he said. “Michael is walking people. In that type of role, you have to make the other people put the ball in play. You just can’t walk people, and most of the times he comes into ballgames, that’s exactly what happens, and it forces me to go get another pitcher.”

More at http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/spor...

I'm not opposed to 13 pitchers, but if Lou does that, he needs to change his approach with his bench. More often than not, we get to the 9th with 1 or no bench players left. If he's got one less bench player, he's going to have to be more judicious in using the 4 he's got.

How about Jim Edmonds? Maybe he does still have a little left in the tank.

Can't expect him to keep his .286/.324/.543 line as a Cub so far, but if he could pull off something like a .265/.330/.470 line....well I don't think I'd have too much to complain about.

Absolutely right. And don't forget Edmonds was out an entire month with a calf injury and missed most of Spring Training. He basically did his ST during the regular season, then we got him.

He's healthy(er), he's returned to his old batting stance, his bat speed is back and he's sure squaring up the ball lately.

He's finally got that good power stroke back. You're right about squaring it up. He's hit some balls REALLY hard in the last few days.

If Edmonds is going to hit, the Cubs lineup is a monster, especially during Z's starts.

BTW, does anyone else think that Z would rather have an plate appearance in the ASG than pitch an inning?

I wish Zambrano could play every day. For just one day I'd love to see him play LF.

No way on left, first base.

At the ASG, he could be DH. ;-)

Of course, so could Sori. :-S

He'd make a great defensive replacement for Soriano.

I must say that it was really good to see "Bad Z" show up last night, but only give up 3 runs. He let his emotions go a bit crazy at a couple of points, but was still able to maintain control and not freak out.

Of course, it helps that it was against the lowly Padres, but last year he would have exploded in a similar game.

Yeah, if this were last year I suppose Z would have imploded and started overthrowing everything. Maybe last year was humbling for him.

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  • FYI: Here's a good link explaining the differences in pitching WAR between Fangraphs and Basebell Reference.

    http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2012/8/28/3273844/which-war-works-best-pitc...

    Rob G. 24 min 12 sec ago view
  • ERA is just FIP with defense and luck. That being said if Hendricks gets his ERA under 2.00, he may have a legit shot.

    That all being said I was looking at Fangraphs WAR and I should have been looking at Basebell Reference WAR because more voters use that. My bad and happy to admit my mistake unlike some people around here that shall not be named (just kidding CRUNCH, CRUNCH, CRUNCH!)

    Rob G. 27 min 24 sec ago view
  • Yes. That is something up with which we will not put.

    fullykräusened 1 hour 37 min ago view
  • Right, then. Moving forward lets focus on simple declarative sentences, subject-verb agreement, and watch out for punctuation. Avoid prepositions at the end of sentences.

    Jackstraw 2 hours 14 min ago view
  • I love sabremetrics and think FIP and WAR can definitely predict future success. For the Cy though which is an award for current success I do think ERA and WHIP have a place. Also while Hendricks doesn't have the strikeouts he does have the highest soft hit contact and second lowest hard hit contact which does a lot to take fielding skill out of it.

    To me if the ERA is close FIP and WAR should be used but right now its not. That said I agree with you Hendricks won't get it.

    johann 2 hours 25 min ago view
  • Can't get soft just because we have a big lead!

    billybucks 3 hours 30 min ago view
  • kershaw will be lucky to put in 160+ip. even though it projects to be an awesome 160+ip it's going to be extremely difficult for him to do much with that. he's still got minor league rehab game(s) to go through and he's only stretched out to 2ip with his last simulated rehab...it may take another couple weeks before he returns.

    the numbers are awesome, but he's lost the equivalent of a good chunk of a top-tier pen arm's season in innings of work compared to the rest of the lot.

    crunch 3 hours 41 min ago view
  • Kershaw, Fernandez and Syndergaard are your current leaders and all will be pitching meaningful games down the stretch that could make or break them. Hendricks will not be and his saber-numbers aren't anywhere close to those 3 and he'd split votes with Arrieta and Lester whom all are basically neck-and-neck for  WAR and FIP. If Kershaw pitches like just okay Kershaw in September he deserves to win in a landslide. Voters are pretty much saber-inclined now so it would take a crazy shutout streak or something for Hendricks to jump in the picture.

    Rob G. 12 hours 9 min ago view
  • AZ PHIL: With starters the likes of Edwin Jackson, even Chris Rusin or Michael Bowden could look good on their staff. At best, he is a #5-6. But as always, LH are at a premium.

    The E-Man 13 hours 39 min ago view
  • Sure we would all want consistency. He is not even 24, has played 5 (!) positions this year. Can you imagine what is in his head? He was only a part-time player at 2 spots last year. And THEN think about hitting?? Cut him some slack...You sure are picky lately. First wishing #6 NL RBI guy Russell have a better average, and now an "unncessarily fancy pick". Geez tough crowd!

    The E-Man 13 hours 43 min ago view
  • it's going to be hard to take down scherzer.

    kershaw is supposedly coming back soon, though he'll probably need a good amount of deep innings to match up with scherzer...probably too late at this point. tanner roark, bumgarner, and hendricks are probably going to steal some votes along with kershaw.

    crunch 14 hours 12 min ago view
  • I absolutely love Javy's game, and I love the way Maddon changed the perception of him as a ballplayer, but I really wish he would just make the routine plays routinely. On the ground ball in the 9th, he made an unnecessarily fancy pick. He made the play, but tried the same thing last night and made an error.

    billybucks 14 hours 34 min ago view
  • How many wins does Kyle need for serious Cy Young consideration? Would 17 be enough if he leads the league in ERA? My goodness, what a season -- makes a Dartmouth alum proud.

    billybucks 14 hours 36 min ago view
  • jacos 14 hours 39 min ago view
  • hendricks WHIP drops to 0.98 over 159 innings after throwing 7ip 3h 1bb 4k, 0r/er

    ERA down to 2.09 on the season.

    crazy good.

    crunch 15 hours 1 min ago view
  • I am pretty well fed up with the majority of home plate umps. Just terrible inconsistencies.

    The E-Man 15 hours 4 min ago view