Game 59 Thread / Cubs @ Padres (2 of 3)

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SP Jason Marquis SP *Wil Ledezma
  2-3, 4.98, 32 K, 22 BB, 56 IP
0-2, 4.50, 31 K, 21 BB, 26 IP
LF Alfonso Soriano CF *Jody Gerut
SS Ryan Theriot 2B Tadahito Iguchi
1B Derrek Lee RF *Brian Giles
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Adrian Gonzalez
C Geovany Soto 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff
CF Reed Johnson LF *Paul McAnulty
RF Mark DeRosa C Michael Barrett
2B Ronny Cedeño SS Khalil Greene
P *Jason Marquis P *Wil Ledezma












The Cubs seek consecutive win number nine tonight versus the generally punchless Padres. While the Giants offense gets mocked for their futility, it's the Padres(3.66 R/G) and Nationals(3.74 R/G) currently battling for the bottom rung of the NL offensive ladder.

For the Cubs, not only does a win tonight extend their winning streak, it would also secure their first road series win since they swept the Pirates...their first road series of the year back in early April. And while their 11-13 road record is certainly unspectacular, there's only 3 NL teams with a .500 or better mark on the road (Marlins, Phillies and Cardinals). Another series sweep and the Cubs will join that group...

Marquis vs Ledezma tonight...I imagine good seat are still available.

Update: Reader Little Nate Lewis flagged this official Cubs press release announcing the demotion of Micah Hoffpauir, who went 8-for-19, .421 in 11 games, and the promotion of pitcher Kevin Hart from Iowa. Hart appeared in six games for the I-Cubs, all as a starter, going 1-1, 3.81, 33 K, 9 BB.

In 18 appearances with the Cubs dating back to last September, all in relief, Hart is 2-1, 3.33 .


Sorry if 3/44, but Hart up, Hoffpauir down.

strange lineup, Cedeno and Theriot both playing SS.
Sorry if 3/44,

but this just in from Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus:
"Jason Schmidt has a minor calf injury, re-setting his rehab clock"

Hart wearing #22, in a bold tribute to all pitchers who are about to have shoulder surgery.

It's interesting that Ledezma's K and BB totals are almost exactly the same as Marquis' in about half the IP. What conclusions can be drawn from that?

I must admit that I am a bit embarrassed to be asking this, but what is the exact history and definition of "3/44?"

I was working more than I would like and was not checking this glorious site as much as I should have been over the past 8 months or so.

Back when Schmidt was on the market, there was some interest here at TCR in the offers he was getting. The Dodgers' offer of 3 years, $44 million was repeated several times here by several individuals, to the point that a day or two would go by and someone else would report it as news. Thus, "3/44" became synonymous with reporting information that was already well known.

Sorry if this is 3/44, but back when Schmidt was a free agent, there was interest at TCR in the offers he was getting. The Cubs' offer of 3 years, $44 million was repeated many times here by several individuals, to the point that a day or two would pass by and someone else would report it as news. Thus, "3/44" became synonymous with reporting info that was already known by most people here.

Well played. Very meta.

It's denotes a comment that has been made before (usually numerous times). The origin was back in November/December 2006 when Jason Schmidt was a free agent. There were rumors that Hendry had made an offer of "3/44" that about 10 different commenters posted.

The first reference I can find to the contract offer was from commenter WPZ on 11/27/2006:

"Here’s the quote Brian got from that SF article:

“All has been quiet on Jason Schmidt’s potential return to San Francisco, and this might be why: According to one source, the Cubs have offered Schmidt a three-year deal worth $44 million.”

For me that’s a no-brainer. I’d prefer two with a mutual option but in this market forget it … we’d have to go to $20 a year."

The first repeat of this information came from Jacos on 11/28/2006:
"George Offman on WSCR reports Cubs offer Jason Schmidt 3/44."

I believe the first reference to 3/44 as a joke came on 11/28/2006 from Little Nate Lewis:
"My sources are telling me we have made a 3 year offer to Schmidt…. somewhere around $44-$45 million dollars.

This is very solid information….. if it comes true I will repost this to rub it in your faces."

However, some others who re-posted the contract details may have been doing so as a joke as well.

Doug's right. It was the Cubs that offered 3/44, not the Dodgers. My bad.

Fantastic. Thanks so much for the response. I got the basic idea, but was unsure of the specifics.

I will now use 3/44 with authority...

I love that Cedeno is hitting better this year, but man the guy is an idiot on the basepaths. At least this time he slid through the base on an actual SB attempt instead of a walk.

No shit. I never see anyone else do that. What's up with sliding through the bag?

That was one of the worst-pitched innings I have ever seen. The other team has one dangerous hitter, and Marquis walks 3 guys (including the pitcher and the leadoff man) to get to him.
Bad, stupid or some combination -- Marquis continues to be a very over-priced #5-quality starter. Love to trade him, but who would want him?

Come on, bats -- time to get going.

and he's gonna cost TEN MILLION dollars next year.

But I agree he's number five quality, as in he can only give you five innings and his ERA is five.

And the Cubs will probably have to swallow at least $5M of his salary next year if they want someone else to take him.

i cannot wait for the day Marquis gets released. that will be a good day.

i am absolutely stunned that lou did not pinch hit for marquis there in the 5th. 1 out, 2nd and 3rd, looking for contact and hopefully more.

why have a million pitchers on the roster if you're not going to pinch hit in that situation/?!?!?! marquis looks 100% awful.

tying run at second and you've got marquis hitting lefty against a lefty (i realize that the bench guys are all lefties tonight other than blanco, but still....marquis against a righty maybe i could see)

i'm stunned with lou....thought that was a fontenot spot for sure.

Marquis laughs all the way to the bank where he collects his huge bags full of money. Oh yeah, and a W.

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  • TBS' K Zone seems to be more harsh than the others.

    I wonder if MLB will ask the networks to stop using them. They just make the umps, and the game, look bad, and it only pisses off the fans.

  • ...joe.

  • "Strop vs. Cardinals." Seen the movie. Hated it.

    Not all that disappointed -- I didn't think they would beat Lackey in Game 1. Need to get the bats going against the guys with less experience -- and they hit Wacha pretty good.

  • Rizzo has been slumping the last couple weeks of the season. Very disappointed it has continued during his penultimate moment of his career to date.

  • Really doesn't matter, but I was surprised to see Lester pulled and Strop pulled in. Should of left Lester in. oy.

  • Sweet merciful fuck, I hate the Cardinals.

  • *flips table*


  • Really doesn't matter, but I was surprised to see Lester out for the 8th. Down 1-0, at 100 pitches, seemed better to give a very fresh bullpen a little work.

    Oh well...Throw away game, although in a 5 game series there is no luxury afforded to do that.

  • This game is not on Lester - he did his job

  • Had a lot of hope hanging on that deep Fowler fly in the sixth.

    Really despise the Cards

  • aside from one swing, this 1-0 game feels like a blow out. Still nice to know one swing can change everything.

    We need Rizzo and Bryant to show up.

  • schwarb leadoff bunt single...lulz.

  • thanks. it was odd. supposedly the dodgers had him signed earlier in the year, then a lot of nothing, then the giants thing a few days ago, then the cubs get him for a bargain. i'll take it.

  • Umps strikezone is awful. Giving Lackey a good 6 inches off the plate.

  • Apparently it was greedy agents who kept pushing the envelope and teams backed away. He then fired his agents and by that time the landscape had changed. The July push had passed and teams were willing to be patient.

    As far as what happened to the Giants' deal, I don't know. But perhaps he looked at the two rosters and realized the Cubs had the better chance of winning going forward. Maybe the Cubs swooped in and gave him $500,000 more and he bit. I don't know. What I do know is he signed the day after the Cubs won the wildcard game rather impressively...

  • That's great to hear AZ Phil. If anyone should know, it'd be you. You've witnessed the transformation first-hand on a daily basis!! Thanks for passing that along and confirming what has seemed quite evident from afar!