Game 59 Thread / Cubs @ Padres (2 of 3)

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SP Jason Marquis SP *Wil Ledezma
  2-3, 4.98, 32 K, 22 BB, 56 IP
0-2, 4.50, 31 K, 21 BB, 26 IP
LF Alfonso Soriano CF *Jody Gerut
SS Ryan Theriot 2B Tadahito Iguchi
1B Derrek Lee RF *Brian Giles
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Adrian Gonzalez
C Geovany Soto 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff
CF Reed Johnson LF *Paul McAnulty
RF Mark DeRosa C Michael Barrett
2B Ronny Cedeño SS Khalil Greene
P *Jason Marquis P *Wil Ledezma












The Cubs seek consecutive win number nine tonight versus the generally punchless Padres. While the Giants offense gets mocked for their futility, it's the Padres(3.66 R/G) and Nationals(3.74 R/G) currently battling for the bottom rung of the NL offensive ladder.

For the Cubs, not only does a win tonight extend their winning streak, it would also secure their first road series win since they swept the Pirates...their first road series of the year back in early April. And while their 11-13 road record is certainly unspectacular, there's only 3 NL teams with a .500 or better mark on the road (Marlins, Phillies and Cardinals). Another series sweep and the Cubs will join that group...

Marquis vs Ledezma tonight...I imagine good seat are still available.

Update: Reader Little Nate Lewis flagged this official Cubs press release announcing the demotion of Micah Hoffpauir, who went 8-for-19, .421 in 11 games, and the promotion of pitcher Kevin Hart from Iowa. Hart appeared in six games for the I-Cubs, all as a starter, going 1-1, 3.81, 33 K, 9 BB.

In 18 appearances with the Cubs dating back to last September, all in relief, Hart is 2-1, 3.33 .


Sorry if 3/44, but Hart up, Hoffpauir down.

strange lineup, Cedeno and Theriot both playing SS.
Sorry if 3/44,

but this just in from Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus:
"Jason Schmidt has a minor calf injury, re-setting his rehab clock"

Hart wearing #22, in a bold tribute to all pitchers who are about to have shoulder surgery.

It's interesting that Ledezma's K and BB totals are almost exactly the same as Marquis' in about half the IP. What conclusions can be drawn from that?

I must admit that I am a bit embarrassed to be asking this, but what is the exact history and definition of "3/44?"

I was working more than I would like and was not checking this glorious site as much as I should have been over the past 8 months or so.

Back when Schmidt was on the market, there was some interest here at TCR in the offers he was getting. The Dodgers' offer of 3 years, $44 million was repeated several times here by several individuals, to the point that a day or two would go by and someone else would report it as news. Thus, "3/44" became synonymous with reporting information that was already well known.

Sorry if this is 3/44, but back when Schmidt was a free agent, there was interest at TCR in the offers he was getting. The Cubs' offer of 3 years, $44 million was repeated many times here by several individuals, to the point that a day or two would pass by and someone else would report it as news. Thus, "3/44" became synonymous with reporting info that was already known by most people here.

Well played. Very meta.

It's denotes a comment that has been made before (usually numerous times). The origin was back in November/December 2006 when Jason Schmidt was a free agent. There were rumors that Hendry had made an offer of "3/44" that about 10 different commenters posted.

The first reference I can find to the contract offer was from commenter WPZ on 11/27/2006:

"Here’s the quote Brian got from that SF article:

“All has been quiet on Jason Schmidt’s potential return to San Francisco, and this might be why: According to one source, the Cubs have offered Schmidt a three-year deal worth $44 million.”

For me that’s a no-brainer. I’d prefer two with a mutual option but in this market forget it … we’d have to go to $20 a year."

The first repeat of this information came from Jacos on 11/28/2006:
"George Offman on WSCR reports Cubs offer Jason Schmidt 3/44."

I believe the first reference to 3/44 as a joke came on 11/28/2006 from Little Nate Lewis:
"My sources are telling me we have made a 3 year offer to Schmidt…. somewhere around $44-$45 million dollars.

This is very solid information….. if it comes true I will repost this to rub it in your faces."

However, some others who re-posted the contract details may have been doing so as a joke as well.

Doug's right. It was the Cubs that offered 3/44, not the Dodgers. My bad.

Fantastic. Thanks so much for the response. I got the basic idea, but was unsure of the specifics.

I will now use 3/44 with authority...

I love that Cedeno is hitting better this year, but man the guy is an idiot on the basepaths. At least this time he slid through the base on an actual SB attempt instead of a walk.

No shit. I never see anyone else do that. What's up with sliding through the bag?

That was one of the worst-pitched innings I have ever seen. The other team has one dangerous hitter, and Marquis walks 3 guys (including the pitcher and the leadoff man) to get to him.
Bad, stupid or some combination -- Marquis continues to be a very over-priced #5-quality starter. Love to trade him, but who would want him?

Come on, bats -- time to get going.

and he's gonna cost TEN MILLION dollars next year.

But I agree he's number five quality, as in he can only give you five innings and his ERA is five.

And the Cubs will probably have to swallow at least $5M of his salary next year if they want someone else to take him.

i cannot wait for the day Marquis gets released. that will be a good day.

i am absolutely stunned that lou did not pinch hit for marquis there in the 5th. 1 out, 2nd and 3rd, looking for contact and hopefully more.

why have a million pitchers on the roster if you're not going to pinch hit in that situation/?!?!?! marquis looks 100% awful.

tying run at second and you've got marquis hitting lefty against a lefty (i realize that the bench guys are all lefties tonight other than blanco, but still....marquis against a righty maybe i could see)

i'm stunned with lou....thought that was a fontenot spot for sure.

Marquis laughs all the way to the bank where he collects his huge bags full of money. Oh yeah, and a W.

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  • crunch 2 hours 10 min ago view
  • My guy Addy

    jacos 2 hours 10 min ago view
  • oh, another a.russell HR...whatever.

    crunch 2 hours 24 min ago view
  • Dylan Cease throwing gas tonight for the Emeralds. In first three innings, has hit 100 mph six times, averaging 98 mph

    Eric S 2 hours 43 min ago view
  • Can I get a gif of Joe West's jowls waving as he chews gum?

    /Asking for a friend

    jacos 3 hours 7 min ago view
  • my gawd...that castillo-to-bryant pickoff was a thing of beauty. the knock on him in the minors being slow out of the crouch is looking less like a thing.

    crunch 3 hours 19 min ago view
  • bless your heart. *pinches cheeks*

    crunch 8 hours 16 min ago view
  • real shame I missed this week's episode of The Crunch Reporter.

    It's highly unusual.

    It does matter a little.

    It matters much less than you think.



    Rob G. 8 hours 18 min ago view
  • four winds field is awesome. it's crazy how minor league parks have "grown up" since the 80s/90s and that park was one of the late-80s models that showed a low-capacity ballpark could look like you're at something other than a highschool baseball game.

    crunch 9 hours 23 min ago view
  • On another topic....I returned to South Bend last night for the 2nd time this season (still haven't tried either the deep-fried mac & cheese sandwich nor "The Porknado", as the drive home is over an hour and that could get ugly), and was pleasantly surprised to find D. Underwood pitching in a rehab start. He looked good -- although, to be fair, these are low-A hitters -- fastball consistently at 94-95 (if the SB scoreboard is to be believed -- several pitches were clocked in the 30s...) and with good location.

    billybucks 10 hours 32 min ago view
  • he gains nothing, no advantage, no saving of resources, nothing...there is not a cost/benefit tradeoff...him letting the running game go on around him for others to control isn't gaining him an advantage elsewhere. it's putting him at a disadvantage even if it's not cashed in with a run.

    crunch 13 hours 12 min ago view
  • And out of respect for the rest of TCR, I'm done on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the other camp, but time to let it go. (Until the next Lester start. I kid.)


    Tito 13 hours 15 min ago view
  • He is putting himself at a disadvanage. But how much of one relative to the rest of his game? He's not Justin Germano -- he's inarguably one of the best SPs in baseball, issue or not. It would be more of thing to discuss ad nauseum if it constantly caused him to give up runs and lose games. But it doesn't.


    Tito 13 hours 25 min ago view
  • shouting down my points about lester with "well, it didn't hurt" is like saying it doesn't matter if a guy starts out walking 3 guys every inning as long it's followed by a K and a double play.

    it's like elevating ERA and wins to a high level while ignoring what it took to get there.

    crunch 13 hours 31 min ago view
  • I'm asking how much it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this year. Do you have that answer?

    I legitimately don't recall you answering that quesion, apart from the condescending silliness you just posted. So if you did answer specifically about the impact of Lester's issue, I'd like to re-read it. Thanks.


    Tito 13 hours 44 min ago view
  • if runner = on base and pitcher = j.lester then lead = large

    if lead = large then probability of extra base on following hit > average of mean

    okay, enough of that silliness... can read more on the thread i copy/pasted this from the last time you decided you needed to talk to me about me.

    crunch 13 hours 50 min ago view