Game 59 Thread / Cubs @ Padres (2 of 3)

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SP Jason Marquis SP *Wil Ledezma
  2-3, 4.98, 32 K, 22 BB, 56 IP
0-2, 4.50, 31 K, 21 BB, 26 IP
LF Alfonso Soriano CF *Jody Gerut
SS Ryan Theriot 2B Tadahito Iguchi
1B Derrek Lee RF *Brian Giles
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Adrian Gonzalez
C Geovany Soto 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff
CF Reed Johnson LF *Paul McAnulty
RF Mark DeRosa C Michael Barrett
2B Ronny Cedeño SS Khalil Greene
P *Jason Marquis P *Wil Ledezma












The Cubs seek consecutive win number nine tonight versus the generally punchless Padres. While the Giants offense gets mocked for their futility, it's the Padres(3.66 R/G) and Nationals(3.74 R/G) currently battling for the bottom rung of the NL offensive ladder.

For the Cubs, not only does a win tonight extend their winning streak, it would also secure their first road series win since they swept the Pirates...their first road series of the year back in early April. And while their 11-13 road record is certainly unspectacular, there's only 3 NL teams with a .500 or better mark on the road (Marlins, Phillies and Cardinals). Another series sweep and the Cubs will join that group...

Marquis vs Ledezma tonight...I imagine good seat are still available.

Update: Reader Little Nate Lewis flagged this official Cubs press release announcing the demotion of Micah Hoffpauir, who went 8-for-19, .421 in 11 games, and the promotion of pitcher Kevin Hart from Iowa. Hart appeared in six games for the I-Cubs, all as a starter, going 1-1, 3.81, 33 K, 9 BB.

In 18 appearances with the Cubs dating back to last September, all in relief, Hart is 2-1, 3.33 .


Sorry if 3/44, but Hart up, Hoffpauir down.

strange lineup, Cedeno and Theriot both playing SS.
Sorry if 3/44,

but this just in from Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus:
"Jason Schmidt has a minor calf injury, re-setting his rehab clock"

Hart wearing #22, in a bold tribute to all pitchers who are about to have shoulder surgery.

It's interesting that Ledezma's K and BB totals are almost exactly the same as Marquis' in about half the IP. What conclusions can be drawn from that?

I must admit that I am a bit embarrassed to be asking this, but what is the exact history and definition of "3/44?"

I was working more than I would like and was not checking this glorious site as much as I should have been over the past 8 months or so.

Back when Schmidt was on the market, there was some interest here at TCR in the offers he was getting. The Dodgers' offer of 3 years, $44 million was repeated several times here by several individuals, to the point that a day or two would go by and someone else would report it as news. Thus, "3/44" became synonymous with reporting information that was already well known.

Sorry if this is 3/44, but back when Schmidt was a free agent, there was interest at TCR in the offers he was getting. The Cubs' offer of 3 years, $44 million was repeated many times here by several individuals, to the point that a day or two would pass by and someone else would report it as news. Thus, "3/44" became synonymous with reporting info that was already known by most people here.

Well played. Very meta.

It's denotes a comment that has been made before (usually numerous times). The origin was back in November/December 2006 when Jason Schmidt was a free agent. There were rumors that Hendry had made an offer of "3/44" that about 10 different commenters posted.

The first reference I can find to the contract offer was from commenter WPZ on 11/27/2006:

"Here’s the quote Brian got from that SF article:

“All has been quiet on Jason Schmidt’s potential return to San Francisco, and this might be why: According to one source, the Cubs have offered Schmidt a three-year deal worth $44 million.”

For me that’s a no-brainer. I’d prefer two with a mutual option but in this market forget it … we’d have to go to $20 a year."

The first repeat of this information came from Jacos on 11/28/2006:
"George Offman on WSCR reports Cubs offer Jason Schmidt 3/44."

I believe the first reference to 3/44 as a joke came on 11/28/2006 from Little Nate Lewis:
"My sources are telling me we have made a 3 year offer to Schmidt…. somewhere around $44-$45 million dollars.

This is very solid information….. if it comes true I will repost this to rub it in your faces."

However, some others who re-posted the contract details may have been doing so as a joke as well.

Doug's right. It was the Cubs that offered 3/44, not the Dodgers. My bad.

Fantastic. Thanks so much for the response. I got the basic idea, but was unsure of the specifics.

I will now use 3/44 with authority...

I love that Cedeno is hitting better this year, but man the guy is an idiot on the basepaths. At least this time he slid through the base on an actual SB attempt instead of a walk.

No shit. I never see anyone else do that. What's up with sliding through the bag?

That was one of the worst-pitched innings I have ever seen. The other team has one dangerous hitter, and Marquis walks 3 guys (including the pitcher and the leadoff man) to get to him.
Bad, stupid or some combination -- Marquis continues to be a very over-priced #5-quality starter. Love to trade him, but who would want him?

Come on, bats -- time to get going.

and he's gonna cost TEN MILLION dollars next year.

But I agree he's number five quality, as in he can only give you five innings and his ERA is five.

And the Cubs will probably have to swallow at least $5M of his salary next year if they want someone else to take him.

i cannot wait for the day Marquis gets released. that will be a good day.

i am absolutely stunned that lou did not pinch hit for marquis there in the 5th. 1 out, 2nd and 3rd, looking for contact and hopefully more.

why have a million pitchers on the roster if you're not going to pinch hit in that situation/?!?!?! marquis looks 100% awful.

tying run at second and you've got marquis hitting lefty against a lefty (i realize that the bench guys are all lefties tonight other than blanco, but still....marquis against a righty maybe i could see)

i'm stunned with lou....thought that was a fontenot spot for sure.

Marquis laughs all the way to the bank where he collects his huge bags full of money. Oh yeah, and a W.

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  • If Travis' back-to-back-to-back walks cost Hendricks the ERA title, that would really suck.

    billybucks 29 min ago view
  • Edit: "A lifeless loss to a lousy Sox team."

    billybucks 1 hour 11 min ago view
  • This place is a real downer after a loss to the Sox.

    Charlie 1 hour 22 min ago view
  • I expect they will go 5-9 games above .500 the rest of the year. 96-98 wins will win the Division.

    They should have one more 2-3 week hot streak in them.

    However, several players are just "average" for the last month: Zobrist, Ross, Russell, Ceasar. Montero is terrible, plus he cannot throw anyone out. -WAR. Heyward is abysmal at the plate, but a plus in the OF. Still with RISP he has been terrible. KB has not been driving in runs as of late. But Apparently the team is still above average with RISP according to S Sahadev.

    The E-Man 1 hour 29 min ago view
  • I came to that realization tonight. I kept expecting them to play better, but now I realize they aren't going to. They are a .500 team now.
    - They have one reliable starting pitcher. Jake's magic is gone, and it doesn't look like it's coming back. Lester has been lousy recently. Lackey's ERA goes up every time he pitches.
    - Heyward has been dead weight all year. I can't remember a single series where he was a significant offensive contributor. Not one. Great defense, but but if he were hitting .270 with 10 HR and played average defense, the Cubs would be better off.

    billybucks 1 hour 32 min ago view
  • new one's allowed to throw k.bryant a changeup

    crunch 1 hour 43 min ago view
  • Team is .500 since early May and is playing like a .500 team. Lack of offense seems to be putting a lot of pressure on the pitchers...and they aren't handling it terribly well.

    .500 the rest of the way still may win the division though.

    blockhead25 1 hour 49 min ago view
  • ...i hate espn.

    nothing like settling into a cubs game to get a few minutes cutaway for an ortiz AB in the 6th inning of the det/bos game.

    oh, at least they're doing split screen now...i guess.

    crunch 2 hours 5 min ago view
  • I'm liking this rookie Nathan.

    CTSteve 2 hours 5 min ago view
  • Richard DFA'd. Meh...

    The E-Man 4 hours 56 min ago view
  • Throwbacks with fashionable cutouts would be a nice touch.

    Charlie 7 hours 29 min ago view
  • The next 2 games are nationally televised. I think we dominate tonight, hitting 3 HRs off Shields. Great night for KB to end HR drought facing HR prone pitcher in one of the most hitter friendly parks in the league.

    chitownmvp01 8 hours 2 min ago view
  • If the ball didn't deflect off the pitcher's mound, the game wouldn't have ended. Montgomery did miss his location though, but if that same contact was made and went in any of direction, good chance of ground out if it doesn't get through.

    If it was 1 night later, Chapman would be out there and we probably would be going to extras.

    Also, If KB wasn't robbed of a HR, perhaps we would have won. We will never know. Nice play by Melky though.

    chitownmvp01 8 hours 3 min ago view
  • The comparison isn't Chapman replacing Rondon. It's Chapman replacing Richard (hopefully) in the pen. Chapman's better.

    billybucks 10 hours 58 sec ago view
  • I'm with you, Rob. You pretty much summed up how I feel about it.

    JoePepitone 12 hours 20 min ago view
  • Been quite the roller-coaster the past two days -- both games, plus the Chapman kerfuffel. How about a couple of nice, comfortable wins before facing Sale? Cubs should definitely wear throwbacks for that game.

    billybucks 13 hours 16 min ago view