Game 67 Thread / Braves @ Cubs (3 of 3)

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SP Tim Hudson SP Carlos Zambrano
  7-4, 2.86 54 K, 23 BB, 91.1 IP
8-2, 3.01, 63 K, 29 BB, 92.2 IP
SS Yunel Escobar LF *Eric Patterson
2B *Kelly Johnson SS Ryan Theriot
3B Chipper Jones 1B Derrek Lee
1B #Mark Teixeira 3B Aramis Ramirez
C *Brian McCann RF *Kosuke Fukudome
RF Jeff Francoeur C Geovany Soto
LF #Greg Norton CF *Jim Edmonds
CF *Gregor Blanco 2B Mark DeRosa
P Tim Hudson P #Carlos Zambrano














I believe this is what our ancestors called a pitching duel. They probably called it that in 1948 as well, which is the year they will be honoring with today's "Turn back the clock" event. Both teams will break out the 1948 uniforms in honor of WGN's 60th anniversary. I hope they had a better logo in 1948 then they do now. To keep in the 1948 spirt, the first two innings will be broadcast in black and white with similar camera angles that they used back then and minimal graphics. I believe the plan is to add more graphics and cameras as the game goes on. Len and Bob will be wearing authentic 1948 garb as well.

For the Cubs, it's day one after Soriano's latest injury. The Cubs roster juggling included sending Kevin Hart down and calling up Micah Hoffpauir and the hot-hitting Eric Patterson. As Lou did the first time, he's keeping Theriot in the number two spot in the lineup. For today at least, he's giving Eric Patterson a shot at the leadoff spot and left-field. I will be curious to see though if he keeps E-Pat out in left and DeRosa at second, or is he just playing the percentages today with a lefty-heavy lineup and Zambrano's groundball tendencies? DeRosa is proably a stronger defender at both positions than Patterson, so we very well might see Lou change this up depending on the matchup. And I'm sure we'll see Hoffpauir in left as well for a few games.


sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet (the WGN concept, I mean.)

Apparently the Cubs signed Broussard.

ESPN Radio100 via MLB Trade Rumers.

Interesting...seems more like a move you'd make if you think Darlye Ward might not be healthy anytime soon.

Yeah, I haven't formed an opinion on this, yet, myself. I guess it'll depend on how he's used. Personally, I'd prefer Reed in left when Edmonds plays.

it's a minor league deal for Broussard so we won't be seeing him anytime soon. He could just be filling in a spot in Iowa with E-pat and Hoff gone.

I wonder if the black and white thing will be broadcast on

Patterson is a lefty. I'd really like to see EPatt get some PT an 2nd over the next 6 weeks. At 25 the time is really now to see if he is indeed the future at the postion.

I agree, except, I'd rephrase it this way:

...I'd really like to see EPatt get some PT [at] 2nd over the next 6 weeks [to build up his value]. At 25 the time is really now to see if he [can be traded for someone valuable].

Whatever. I just wan't good production out of him and Hoff so that we don't have to keep asking when Sori will be back.

"Len and Bob will be wearing authentic 1948 garb as well. "

They will be sweating their balls off.

Holy Hell!!!

I go away for a few days and you let this happen?

I blame RobG.

Anyway, just checking in from the baltic sea. haven't made contact with that phantom Russian sub yet but Seaman Jones swears we'll catch him yet.

Did stay up last night to watch the first couple of innings of the game (the ship has espn2!).

At least can we still be in first when I get back.

Lastly, bigger loss:

Cards - Pujols 3 weeks
Cubs - Soriano 6

I say Cards.

You have it wrong chad

Clearly Michael Barrett is the one to blame

this is the internet, you are back

Watch out for those Baltic sea boats. The last one I was on sank. Fortunately, it sank AFTER I had disembarked.

Jacques Jones DFA'd by the Marlins after 44 at bats.

Kind of enjoying the 1948 thing. That camera angle from the upper deck down the 3B line that they use for every pitch is kind of annoying, though. Guess it's what you get when you're going for the real thing.

On my black and white feed, the Cubs 1948 uniforms don't look particularly different from the Cubs 2008 uniforms.

I have a generally random question about the organization, and maybe AZ Phil can answer this.

I noticed that the Braves have a few guys who switch-hit and thus can play against both lefties and righties. This seems to be a positive thing, as they don't have to worry about platooning with these guys. The Cubs have all kinds of platoons to worry about; why is it that, given our preference for guys who are flexible (i.e. can play more than one position), why is it that we don't try to develop more switch-hitters?

I know we tried to with Theriot a couple of years ago and that failed miserably. Have we just given up on the idea of developing switch-hitters, acknowledging that our developmental coaches within the organization are incapable of doing so? Or is there some kind of effort to develop switch-hitters and it's just that none have worked out? Or is it that switch-hitters normally develop themselves earlier, in Little League or high school?

The unis look awesome, and for those of us who started watching the games on WGN back in the late 60's, the camera angles don't look too different, except for the CF camera. They're also using a real typewriter in the background, which I had forgotten about.

Why on God's green earth wasn't EPatt bunting?

Back to back innings of back-to-back singles followed by rally killing double plays.

Maybe he was afraid of clogging up the bases.

I'm not sure I see the logic in letting Zambrano hit there either. He pops out on the first pitch and then promptly walks the lead-off hitter in the next inning and leaves the game anyway.

Cub Pinch Hitters are hitting .184 this year

Cub PITCHERS are hitting .220 this year.

Probably won't last, but WOW.

Anyone have any idea why Lou didn't pinch-hit for Zambrano with 2 guys on and us down a run? That doesn't seem to make any sense, especially given that he just had to yank Z after that 4-pitch walk to Teixeira.

I would've pinch-hit Hoffpauir with the RHP Campillo in.

Wow, nice relief job by Eyre and Marmol striking out the side with the bases loaded.

Old and Blue reaction on signing of Jim Edmonds:


Jim Motherblankin' Edmonds

I guess he's one of us now.

I can't believe I'm saying this--but I agree. Jim Edmonds is officially a Cub.

Gabba gabba we accept you, we accept you, one of us.

Ya Pinhead...

Great reference!

I know what you mean Whip. Here's a quote from the Yahoo story:

“It’s always hard to win here when you are on the road because the home team is never out of it,” said Edmonds, who played for years with the rival Cardinals.

“It’s a tough place to play. … It’s great to be a part of it on this side now.”

Not like any of this is surprising. But I found myself liking him for saying that. Weird alternate universe.

i still dont get the edmonds hate...i dont recall him ever railing about the cubs or their fans (he may have, i dunno).

the only thing ive picked up is he's a pretty boy ex-cards star.

given that i live in NC and not the midwest, cards/cards-fans bother me about as much as...well...i think i've met 2 or 3.

hell, the whole cubs/cards thing means about to much to me as cubs/anyone-else. i do like the fan-presence, though, at the STL/MIL games. that's a fun give/take for both sides.

i get the "history" of the rivalry and all that just doesnt mean jack to me...maybe if i was old enough to remember the lou brock trade or lived in southern IL or something...

My grandfather and father grew up in southern Illinois, closer to St. Louis than Chicago, so they were in Cards territory but were Cubs fans. I learned baseball largely from my father, playing and spectating, so the rivalry added some fun to the games--it's rarely been a mean-spirited rivalry, as Cards fans are traditionally very polite. In the 2000s, though, and particularly since 2004, the rivalry has gotten a little more spiteful. Edmonds was a big part of that 2004 team that ran away with the division, and a number of good Cardinals teams; my dislike for him stemmed from him putting up great numbers for the Cards during the years they beat the Cubs, his defense being overrated by the sports media, and that dang eyeliner and frosted tips he sports. Nothing major there, just finding reasons to dislike a guy on a rival team. Other examples include but are not limited to: I dislike Prince Fielder because he plays way too far off of first base, and I dislike Lance Berkman because he's got a dumb look on his face.

You don't live here so you really can't relate. But, I know you can relate to NC-Duke. But its just crap to me. Maybe if I lived there or something. Maybe if I remembered Dean Smith coaching, or playing the "four corners" stall defense. Meh.


UNC/Duke makes perfect sense...and yeah, a lotta it is cuz i dont live in the area and it's never touched my culture.

"the only thing ive picked up is he's a pretty boy ex-cards star."

Then why do you keep saying you don't get it? Isn't this enough?

I also wanted to mention that I thought the Jack Brickhouse tribute on the Edmonds homer was a really, really nice touch to the day. Len nailed it. I really enjoyed it.

For those who didn't see it...

I'm glad I recorded and downloaded to you tube.
Thanks for sharing.


Well, it wasnt the Ryne Sandburg game, but if this game doesn't deserve a 'Holy Cow' I don't know what does.


Ben Broussard is apparently a singer-songwriter also:

Remember when the Cubs discontinued the blue jerseys and everyone kept questioning if this would upset Zambrano? I remember reading a number of mailbags in which Carrie Mustache was dismissive of these comments saying that it wasn't a big deal to him. Now she's got this wonderful tidbit after tonights game:

"The Cubs and Braves were dressed in 1948 throwback uniforms, and that may have thrown Big Z off. He prefers the alternate blue jerseys, not the all white with the striped stirrups."

Yup, that was probably the problem. That's why he gave up so many runs: 2.

The whole "Wood to closer, Dempster to the rotation" craziness.

How's that going?

A harebrained idea if I ever heard one. That'll never work!!

This was a really nice win among many this season. They had 2 key early double plays and Hudson was pitching pretty well. Piniella took some risks that didn't pay off in not bunting EPat and letting Z hit for himself only to pull him one batter later, but the HBP machine Reed Johnson in there to end it at the end. I'm thinking thats some HPB karma with Wood's stuff and Soriano going down. I'll be happy to split the next 6 on the road vs the AL but this team might just pleasantly surprise me.

As long as you don't talk about the Cubs great health...

A reference to Tod Browning's "Freaks" on TCR. Beautiful.

And don't get us started on Manos: Hands of Fate.

Only it's "any old kind of a run wins it," NOT "any old run wins it." But otherwise, a very nice tribute by Len to Jack Brickhouse.

One funny throwback: The camera op zoomed the lens in and out rapidly in "celebration" after Edmonds HR. Jut like Brickhouse days!

Little trivia for you... the last Cub to strike out the side on 9 straight pitches? No Google... just guess.

LaTroy Hawkins, 09-11-2004 9th inning


I seem to remember Wellemeyer coming in and striking out the side in Milwaukee not too many years ago.

I remember that, it was when he 1st got called up. I think it was 2003 though.

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  • Can't get soft just because we have a big lead!

    billybucks 17 min 58 sec ago view
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    the numbers are awesome, but he's lost the equivalent of a good chunk of a top-tier pen arm's season in innings of work compared to the rest of the lot.

    crunch 29 min 14 sec ago view
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    Rob G. 8 hours 57 min ago view
  • AZ PHIL: With starters the likes of Edwin Jackson, even Chris Rusin or Michael Bowden could look good on their staff. At best, he is a #5-6. But as always, LH are at a premium.

    The E-Man 10 hours 27 min ago view
  • Sure we would all want consistency. He is not even 24, has played 5 (!) positions this year. Can you imagine what is in his head? He was only a part-time player at 2 spots last year. And THEN think about hitting?? Cut him some slack...You sure are picky lately. First wishing #6 NL RBI guy Russell have a better average, and now an "unncessarily fancy pick". Geez tough crowd!

    The E-Man 10 hours 31 min ago view
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    crunch 11 hours 25 sec ago view
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    billybucks 11 hours 22 min ago view
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    billybucks 11 hours 24 min ago view
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  • hendricks WHIP drops to 0.98 over 159 innings after throwing 7ip 3h 1bb 4k, 0r/er

    ERA down to 2.09 on the season.

    crazy good.

    crunch 11 hours 49 min ago view
  • I am pretty well fed up with the majority of home plate umps. Just terrible inconsistencies.

    The E-Man 11 hours 52 min ago view
  • Oh shit forgot about that
    Shark and Sczur right?

    jacos 12 hours 6 min ago view
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    The E-Man 12 hours 14 min ago view
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  • If it was 2006 Hendry would be there w a Bible and a contract

    jacos 15 hours 26 sec ago view
  • he subscribes to my twitter, he's beyond TCR. #yolo #swag

    crunch 15 hours 38 min ago view