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SP Carlos Zambrano SP Andy Sonnastine
  8-2, 2.98, 66 K, 32 BB, 99.2 IP
7-3, 4.89, 54 K, 14 BB, 84.2 IP
       
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 2B *Akinori Iwamura
SS Ryan Theriot LF *Carl Crawford
1B Derrek Lee CF BJ Upton
3B Aramis Ramirez RF *Eric Hinske
CF *Jim Edmonds 3B Evan Longoria
C Geovany Soto DH *Cliff Floyd
LF Mark DeRosa 1B #Willy Aybar
DH *Micah Hoffpauir C #Dionar Navarro
2B Ronny Cedeno SS Jason Bartlett

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 6:50pm
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Submitted by mattralph
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 7:09pm

Wow, this is sickening.

Submitted by dB
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 7:13pm

it would appear as though Z has decided to join Brandon Webb on the All Dead-arm Team. Few too many 89-91 mph fastballs belt high and out over the plate.

Submitted by mattralph
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 7:19pm

Yeah, he hasn't been himself since that 130-pitch outing.

Submitted by Little Nate Lewis
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 7:34pm

Why was Edmonds removed?

Edit: This is from Yahoo's box score:

CHICAGO OUTFIELDER JIM EDMONDS LEFT THE GAME IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FOURTH INNING WITH AN UNDISCLOSED INJURY.

Submitted by Cubster
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 7:45pm

left foot soreness (Edmonds), probably related to playing on artificial turf

Submitted by Little Nate Lewis
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 7:51pm

Johnson out, Edmonds out..... will make for a short bench over the next few days.

Submitted by Dmac
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:16pm

"Yeah, he hasn't been himself since that 130-pitch outing."

Nah, pitch counts don't matter - just ask one commenter here, he'll tell you all about it.

Submitted by Wes
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 10:01pm

Yeah.. something like that.

Submitted by Indiana JJ
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:28pm

Oh Fuck

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:38pm

potential Z shoulder injury...fwiw...

Submitted by Little Nate Lewis
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:48pm

potential Z shoulder injury...fwiw...

I guess that was the reason for Indiana's "Oh fuck"?

Any details Crunch?

Edit: Details from Rotoworld:

Catcher Geovany Soto saw something following Zambrano's last delivery and called out the trainer. Zambrano wanted to stay in, but the decision was made to take him out. Once he was in the dugout, he reached for his shoulder, suggesting that's what the problem was. He allowed five runs -- four earned -- in 6 2/3 innings before departing.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:49pm

"right shoulder discomfort"

aka...we know something's not right, but we have no idea right now.

Submitted by SheffieldCornelia
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:52pm

Cubster! We need a detailed medical prognosis on "discomfort", along with common remedies and duration of recovery time.

......go.

Submitted by Jordan
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:52pm

So now the injury bug comes to the Cubs for real.

We'll see if this team is for real now, as we could potentially be without Z for a bit here. Let's hope its not surgery.

Submitted by Chifan
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:29pm

It looked to me that Z screwed up his last delivery, this could just be as simple as soreness from the shoulder being out of allignment on the pitch and could go away with some Advil. The fact that he did not appear in serious pain should be a good thing.

Submitted by billybucks
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:42pm

Bad karma in Florida -- the Marlins always seem to hand it to the Cubs down there -- including a sweep by a crappy Marlins team last September.

Z hasn't had a dominating outing in quite some time -- his K's are way, way down. Maybe Lou should stop forcing more starts for him, and let him have the extra day of rest when there is an off day.

Annnnd...the White Sox are now hammering the ball. Perfect.

Submitted by Jeff_Pico
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:48pm

The White Sox are hammering the ball against the Pirates..they didn't do much the 2 series before against the Tigers and Rockies.

At least the Cards lost again..so much AGAIN for their advantage of having to play KC 6 times a year...they seem to always give them a good fight.

Hopefully Z is ok. If not rest in general may be what he needs.

Submitted by Pell Mell
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:49pm

Annnnd...the White Sox are now hammering the ball. Perfect.

...against the what's-the-opposite-of-vaunted Pirates pitching staff. Not really cause for alarm IMHO. Potential Z injury problems = cause for 100 alarms all going off at once.

Submitted by Cubster
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 10:07pm

Cubster! We need a detailed medical prognosis on "discomfort",
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my definition of discomfort is reading everyone freak out about Z's shoulder.

take two aspirins and post again in the morning.

oh, and the Cardinals did lose 3-2 to KC for the 2nd night. So think happy thoughts.

Submitted by 10man
on Thu, 06/19/2008 - 12:01pm

Another contender for post of the century. When a real doc tells you to take a chill pill, it's a good idea to do so :)

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/19/2008 - 12:09pm

Since when is an MRI the equivalent of an aspirin?:?"

Submitted by dB
on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 10:10pm

Z's on a flight back to Chicago for an MRI tomorrow. Cubs don't feel it's serious but I suppose that will put the whammy on him.

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/19/2008 - 12:14pm

That explains the MRI.

No wonder Joe Sixpack is demanding one everytime he pulls a muscle playing softball.

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Thu, 06/19/2008 - 12:21pm

The MRI is for precautionary reasons... it isn't that difficult to understand.

I would hope that the team would do an MRI even if they didn't think it was a big deal.

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/19/2008 - 12:33pm

You can take your condescending attitude and shove it up your big fat lowitzki. MRI's are not trivial and they shouldn't be done unless there's a damn good reason.

Submitted by WISCGRAD
on Thu, 06/19/2008 - 1:15pm

The damn good reason is that Zambrano is a great professional baseball player making millions of dollars a year. Why NOT do an MRI if there is even 1/10th of 1% chance it could reveal something, even minor.

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Thu, 06/19/2008 - 6:44pm

Heh. navigator is complaining about my condescending attitude? Funny...

And yea - when you make millions of dollars a year because of your shoulder, it is worth getting an MRI just to make sure things are okay.

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