Game 72 Thread / Cubs @ Rays (2 of 3)

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SP Carlos Zambrano SP Andy Sonnastine
  8-2, 2.98, 66 K, 32 BB, 99.2 IP
7-3, 4.89, 54 K, 14 BB, 84.2 IP
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 2B *Akinori Iwamura
SS Ryan Theriot LF *Carl Crawford
1B Derrek Lee CF BJ Upton
3B Aramis Ramirez RF *Eric Hinske
CF *Jim Edmonds 3B Evan Longoria
C Geovany Soto DH *Cliff Floyd
LF Mark DeRosa 1B #Willy Aybar
DH *Micah Hoffpauir C #Dionar Navarro
2B Ronny Cedeno SS Jason Bartlett













Wow, this is sickening.

it would appear as though Z has decided to join Brandon Webb on the All Dead-arm Team. Few too many 89-91 mph fastballs belt high and out over the plate.

Yeah, he hasn't been himself since that 130-pitch outing.

Why was Edmonds removed?

Edit: This is from Yahoo's box score:


left foot soreness (Edmonds), probably related to playing on artificial turf

Johnson out, Edmonds out..... will make for a short bench over the next few days.

"Yeah, he hasn't been himself since that 130-pitch outing."

Nah, pitch counts don't matter - just ask one commenter here, he'll tell you all about it.

Yeah.. something like that.

Oh Fuck

potential Z shoulder injury...fwiw...

potential Z shoulder injury...fwiw...

I guess that was the reason for Indiana's "Oh fuck"?

Any details Crunch?

Edit: Details from Rotoworld:

Catcher Geovany Soto saw something following Zambrano's last delivery and called out the trainer. Zambrano wanted to stay in, but the decision was made to take him out. Once he was in the dugout, he reached for his shoulder, suggesting that's what the problem was. He allowed five runs -- four earned -- in 6 2/3 innings before departing.

"right shoulder discomfort"

aka...we know something's not right, but we have no idea right now.

Cubster! We need a detailed medical prognosis on "discomfort", along with common remedies and duration of recovery time.


So now the injury bug comes to the Cubs for real.

We'll see if this team is for real now, as we could potentially be without Z for a bit here. Let's hope its not surgery.

It looked to me that Z screwed up his last delivery, this could just be as simple as soreness from the shoulder being out of allignment on the pitch and could go away with some Advil. The fact that he did not appear in serious pain should be a good thing.

Bad karma in Florida -- the Marlins always seem to hand it to the Cubs down there -- including a sweep by a crappy Marlins team last September.

Z hasn't had a dominating outing in quite some time -- his K's are way, way down. Maybe Lou should stop forcing more starts for him, and let him have the extra day of rest when there is an off day.

Annnnd...the White Sox are now hammering the ball. Perfect.

The White Sox are hammering the ball against the Pirates..they didn't do much the 2 series before against the Tigers and Rockies.

At least the Cards lost much AGAIN for their advantage of having to play KC 6 times a year...they seem to always give them a good fight.

Hopefully Z is ok. If not rest in general may be what he needs.

Annnnd...the White Sox are now hammering the ball. Perfect.

...against the what's-the-opposite-of-vaunted Pirates pitching staff. Not really cause for alarm IMHO. Potential Z injury problems = cause for 100 alarms all going off at once.

Cubster! We need a detailed medical prognosis on "discomfort",
my definition of discomfort is reading everyone freak out about Z's shoulder.

take two aspirins and post again in the morning.

oh, and the Cardinals did lose 3-2 to KC for the 2nd night. So think happy thoughts.

Another contender for post of the century. When a real doc tells you to take a chill pill, it's a good idea to do so :)

Since when is an MRI the equivalent of an aspirin?:?"

Z's on a flight back to Chicago for an MRI tomorrow. Cubs don't feel it's serious but I suppose that will put the whammy on him.

That explains the MRI.

No wonder Joe Sixpack is demanding one everytime he pulls a muscle playing softball.

The MRI is for precautionary reasons... it isn't that difficult to understand.

I would hope that the team would do an MRI even if they didn't think it was a big deal.

You can take your condescending attitude and shove it up your big fat lowitzki. MRI's are not trivial and they shouldn't be done unless there's a damn good reason.

The damn good reason is that Zambrano is a great professional baseball player making millions of dollars a year. Why NOT do an MRI if there is even 1/10th of 1% chance it could reveal something, even minor.

Heh. navigator is complaining about my condescending attitude? Funny...

And yea - when you make millions of dollars a year because of your shoulder, it is worth getting an MRI just to make sure things are okay.

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