Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
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| SP | Javier Vazquez | SP | Ryan Dempster |
| 7-5, 4.13, 93 K, 24 BB, 96 IP | 8-2, 2.76, 81 K, 37 BB, 94.2 IP | ||
| SS | Orlando Cabrera | RF | *Kosuke Fukudome |
| C | *A.J. Pierzynski | LF | *Eric Patterson |
| LF | Carlos Quentin | 1B | Derrek Lee |
| RF | Jermaine Dye | 3B | Aramis Ramirez |
| 1B | #Nick Swisher | CF | *Jim Edmonds |
| 3B | Joe Crede | C | Geovany Soto |
| CF | *Dewayne Wise | RF | Mark DeRosa |
| 2B | Alexei Ramirez | SS | Ryan Theriot |
| P | Javier Vazquez | P | Ryan Dempster |
The national ESPN spotlight shines this evening on 1060 West Addison, which can only mean one thing:
The Yankees and Mets aren't playing each other this weekend.
According to the Sun-Times' up-to-the-minute Cubs reports via Twitter, Rob Reiner and his kid are in the house tonight. Could there be any clearer indication what an important contest this is?
Regarding tonight's starters...
Dempster makes his first career start against the White Sox after seven relief appearances (0-1, 3.86 with 3 saves). Vazquez is 3-3 lifetime against the Cubs in 14 starts dating back to his days with the Expos. He is 2-2, 4.80 in ten starts at Wrigley.
This morning on ESPN 1000, former Cub and current Comcast analyst Dan Plesac attributed Dempster's success this year to his ability to throw strikes early in the count and then fall back on his split-finger fastball as an out pitch, especially against lefties. Plesac reasoned that if the White Sox take a bunch of big swings tonight trying to drive the ball out of the park, Dempster could be in for a very successful outing.
If Dempster gets knocked out of the box and the Cubs lose, don't blame me—I'm just quoting Plesac.
But if Dempster makes the Sox look silly tonight, remember, you read it here first.
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Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 6:23pm Permalink
ESPN 1000 just said that Edmonds also has a hand problem... I didn't hear the particulars because I walked into the room late. They suggested that he might end up being a late scratch.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 6:32pm Permalink
I think it's a strain from him flipping the Sox the bird yesterday. He sure gave them the might FU with aplomb. I hope to heck he can play today. He's batting .311 since becoming a Cub and he's been both clutch and scrappy.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 6:44pm Permalink
Disagree. He's entirely too well manicured to be scrappy. No long hair. No can't-quite-grow-the-entire-thing beard. Hates getting dirty.
Plus, he's slugging .581 as a Cub. That's WAY too high for scrap. Subtract about 200 points from that and then we'll talk.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 6:56pm Permalink
When The Riot had a .522 slugging pct in 2006 wasn't that scrap? Edmonds slugging will come down. That he's hitting the ball now just shows his scrappiness.
Besides, you seem to be describing Shaggy, not Scrappy.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 9:29pm Permalink
This may have actually been on the SAT this year:
Theriot:Shaggy :: Edmonds:Fred
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 8:47pm Permalink
Willie McCovey was one of Joe Morgan's childhood idols? The guy made his major league debut all of four years earlier than Morgan.
"Banks Boulevard," ugggggggguhgughghgh.
P.S. Aramis Ramirez will you marry me [ ]yes [ ]yes [ ]alrighty.
Re: Banks Boulevard Basket
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 11:35pm Permalink
I'd like to know who makes shit like this up, Joe or his fact checkers?
FWIW, the basket didn't go up until 1970 by which time Ernie was pretty much done.
He only hit 15 more homeruns before he hung up his spikes and I think only 8 were at Wrigley Field.
And the basket wasn't put up primarily to keep fans from interfering with the ball. Back in the sixties when Bleacher bums were ACTUALLY BUMS 'cause seats only cost a dollar and beers were less, the bums would stack their beers and empty cups on the top of the wall, along with their wallets and shirts and suntan lotion and hibachi grills. All that junk wound up on the field, often after it landed on the outfielders head. Usually when he was trying to make a catch, but not always. There wasn't a problem before Durocher took over because there were no fans before the Durocher era. But starting in 67 when the Cubs found themselves in first place, it became a problem. Thus the basket.
Re: Banks Boulevard Basket
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 12:53am Permalink
hahaha. rock.
Re: Banks Boulevard Basket
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 1:44am Permalink
"I'd like to know who makes shit like this up, Joe or his fact checkers?"
Joe Morgan doesn't need fact checkers because he DOES NOT use facts. Why would he have to when he can make stuff up so well?
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 1:56am Permalink
Funny bit from Rogers' column tonight:
• Cubs fans have long memories.
Of course they boo Pierzynski. It's only been two years since he brawled with Michael Barrett. But about an hour before Sunday night's game, a fan in the upper deck was heckling ESPN's Joe Morgan and waving a sign that read, "Ryno was better than you, Joe."
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 5:40am Permalink
ryno wishes he was as good as morgan.
as much as he sucks on the mic he's gotta be one of the best (if not the best) 2nd basemen ever. i'd put him #1 on my personal list.
that said, i don't how a guy with a "bad-mic-skills" reputation as that one morgan has keeps getting work on the marquee cable baseball "game of the week". go f'n figure.
-edit-
guess i should say why.
while injuries robbed him of his full potential in his mid-30s (what was left, anyway) he was one hell of a full package. he got on base and had plus speed. he could also hit for a bit of power so you couldn't just play him in. incredible eye. beyond that he was absolutely one of the best defensive 2nd basemen who's played the game.
not that ryno was a pile of crap or something...but i'd take joe.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 3:45am Permalink
The awesomeness of this reply is only emphasized by the greatness of the Achewood reference as a handle.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 9:54pm Permalink
Morgan continuing to show his profound ignorance of any teams not called the Reds, Yankees or Red Sox.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 10:38pm Permalink
My favorite was when Joe said that the Cubs have played not nearly as many games on the road as at home. That actual number was pushed to 4 after tonight's game. His point was probably well taken the last time the Cubs were on SNB a couple of weeks ago before the Cubs took to the road.
That aside -- CUBS WIN! Awful sweet sweeping the ChiSox. As decent as Baltimore is, they are a .400 team on the road and the Cubs should take at least 2 of 3 before it's time to spank the White Sox again.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 10:39pm Permalink
Oh, and Cubnut, you and the Meathead are off the hook.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 1:32am Permalink
You had me at ignorance.
Toasting success
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 10:28pm Permalink
Here's to:
* Returning to 20 games over .500
* Dempster's continued success
* ARam's hot streak
* EPat having two consecutive good games
* .800 record at home
* Kevin Youkilis and the Red Sox downing STL
* Sweeping the cross-town rival
* Ozzie's frustration
Bottoms up!
Re: Toasting success
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 10:47pm Permalink
if someone would've told me at the beginning of the season the Cubs would win 32 of their first 40 at home i would've laughed my ass off...
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 10:32pm Permalink
The Cubs just are inside the White Sox heads, thanks to Ozzie Guillen. I normally discount a managers effect on a team but its obvious the Kenny Williams/ Ozzie Guillen inferiority complex effects their team. Vazquez talked trash about the Cubs lineup and gets knocked around. I'm sure the Cubs will be in for a tough fight next weekend at the Cell..but this sweep is very sweet :)
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 10:40pm Permalink
Jeff_Pico:
Vazquez talked trash about the Cubs lineup and gets knocked around.
I like to see guys fail after talking trash like that.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 10:55pm Permalink
Two questions after tonight:
- Dempster contract extension at the A-S break?
- Does E-Pat have the arm to play CF?
Fun, fun, fun!
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 11:02pm Permalink
- Does E-Pat have the arm to play CF?
And play instead of Edmonds? Doubt that is going to happen.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 11:16pm Permalink
Thinking more for next year -- and, the occasional game when Edmonds breaks down this year.
E-pat's speed directly led to 2 runs tonight -- a dimension that Hoffpauer and Fontenot and Murton don't bring.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 8:15am Permalink
I don't have the numbers to prove it, but I think Corey the Cub hit the Sox pretty good too.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 9:04am Permalink
Not so much. Corey's career line against the White Sox:
.293/.331/.478
Corey's line as a Cub against the White Sox:
.229/.282/.375
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 9:32am Permalink
Wrong again, thanks Big Lowitzki.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 11:12pm Permalink
edmonds is hurting i doubt if johnson was available if edmonds
would be playing.
i also was wondering if patterson has played center?
did lou say he earned another start.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 11:20pm Permalink
so when d. ward is activated who goes down
1.patterson
2.hoffpauer
3.murton
i would say #3
that is if johnson goes to dl for marshall call up
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 11:46pm Permalink
They will no doubt DL Johnson for Sean Marshall. As for Ward being activated for the White Sox series next weekend, say adios to Murton. LH or RH, Lou likes results and Patterson and Hoffpauir hit the crap out of the ball compared to the redhead.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 9:59am Permalink
I think they might make 3 roster moves tomorrow
IN:
Marshall
Torres
Ward
Out:
Hoffpauir
Johnson
Murton
I think Hoffpauir will be sent down in Ward comes back as they have the same skill sets and Lou likes defensive verisatility to much to have 2 guys who play 1b and our emergency OF on the roster. With Johnson likely going onto the DL and Edmonds banged up I'm sure Lou will want a back-up CF who has played their in the bigs and that is where Torres comes in. Plus he is a fast switch hitter something that Lou and Jimbo love. So that leaves Murton for Marshall's spot, given Epat's performance the last 2 games I think its safe to assume he has earned a roster spot, if not the everyday LF job V. RHP until Sori comes back. If he keeps it up, he might just take Fontenot's job.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 11:32am Permalink
I'd be shocked to see Torres on this team...they'd have to make room on the 40 man roster and the guy is 30 years old. I think Lou will go with Edmonds/Fuku in CF. Maybe Cedeno in an emergency.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 11:37am Permalink
Chad Fox could go to the 60 day DL to clear a spot.
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Sun, 06/22/2008 - 11:52pm Permalink
whatever trade we make i hope it includes murton
it is not gonna happen in chicago
Re: Game 76 Thread / White Sox @ Cubs (3 of 3)
on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 8:32am Permalink
in a tribute to george carlin ozzie used all of
those seven words in post game interview.