Game 93 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (1 of 3)

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SP Matt Cain SP Jason Marquis
  5-7, 4.30, 112 K, 50 BB, 119.1 IP
6-5, 4.78 ERA, 49 K, 37 BB, 92.1 IP
LF *Fred Lewis SS Ryan Theriot
2B #Ray Durham 2B *Mike Fontenot
RF #Randy Winn 1B Derrek Lee
C Bengie Molina 3B Aramis Ramirez
CF Aaron Rowand C Geovany Soto
1B *John Bowker LF *Daryle Ward
3B Rich Aurilia RF Mark DeRosa
SS #Omar Vizquel CF Reed Johnson
P Matt Cain P *Jason Marquis













On Rich Harden Debut Eve, the Cubs have made a roster move as they open a three-game set against the Giants.

Michael Wuertz, who allowed four runs in an inning-and-one-third against the Reds on Thursday, was sent down to Iowa. Kevin Hart, 2-1, 3.35 for the I-Cubs with 48 K's against 15 BB and a BAA of just .205, gets the call-up.

As for today's game, the Cubs hope to avenge last week's series split in San Francisco. (Normally, "avenge" would be too strong a word when you're coming off a split, but considering how miserably the Giants have played at home this year, I figured the Cubs were at least owed 3-of-4.)

The pitching matchup is a repeat of the pairing from the game played a week ago Tuesday, which the Giants won, 2-1. Marquis steadied himself after a bumpy first inning, allowing just four hits and two runs over 7 IP. Cain, however, was flat-out brilliant, shutting out the Cubs for 8 innings, while fanning 10 and allowing 2 piddly hits, which is one hit less than the Cubs collected in a ninth-inning rally against Giants closer Brian Wilson which fell just short.

In the ultimate test of his flyball-catching skills, Reed Johnson gets to play centerfield between Mark DeRosa and Daryle Ward, as Jim Edmonds and Kosuke Fukudome, who is hitting .238 since June 1st and striking out like a sonofagun, get to rest.


"In the ultimate test of his flyball-catching skills, Reed Johnson gets to play centerfield between Mark DeRosa and Daryle Ward..."


Oh Shit...

I wonder who would win a footrace between Soto and Ward?

The play at the plate where Ward wheezed home last week and was tagged out, made me shake my head and roll the eyes.

Piniella clearly has a sense of humor.

Is Lou's idea to just keep playing Soto until he passes out behind the plate?. I know the kid's young and full of energy, but for Pete's sake, use your backup once a while. It's probably going to be over 100 degrees on the field by mid - game; sheesh.

Lou would definitely use his backup catcher, if he had one who could hit.

Wait till September, when Welington Castillo gets called up. Also, keep an eye out for Blake Lalli.


you mean the backup catcher hitting .300/.340+ consistanly most of the year?

the guy who could spell a guy in these 4-5-6+ run blowouts late in the game?

the guy who has 60ab's with over half the season done?

lou is simply not using him and there's little excuse besides lou wants soto out there as much as possible. he's not being used as a late replacement and he's rarely getting starts.

I agree that Soto needs a bit more rest, but he has to be treated not just like a catcher, but a star of this team. If it was Paul Bako back there, I'm sure Blanco would be catching at least twice a week. Since it's not Paul Bako, but instead is a key part of our offense, Soto's going to get the vast majority of ABs.

Geo might not be Ivan Rodriguez, but playing almost every day was ok with him:

Pudge age 24: 153 games (career high) All Star, Silver Slugger
Pudge age 25: 150 games All Star, Silver Slugger
Pudge age 26: 145 games All Star, Silver Slugger

Johnny Bench once played in 160 games. Holy shit.

Jody Davis too. 150 games '83, 151 games '84

So Wuertz is only being used once a week (shockingly, he'd doesn't perform well in his rusty state), the Cubs have 13 pitchers on the roster, and so they replaced him with another pitcher?

Does this mean Hoffpauir the new Murton?

Len Kaspar just said, I think incorrectly, that Matt Murton is starting for the A's AAA franchise.

Not so.

EPatt was added to AAA Sacramento (and played 2B for the River Cats last night) but Matt Murton hasn't played for them and doesn't appear on their roster.

Rumor is he may get a temporary assignment with the A's this weekend. As of the moment, Murt doesn't show up on any active roster I've looked at.

Now A's fans can start "Free Matt Murton" blog entries, and other Murton-related chats. Didn't take him long to get in limbo over there, just like here!

Yeah! Same old same old for Murt. I contacted Len & Bob about it.

Even is confuseld--- still lists MM as being an Iowa Cub, while they have EPatt as a Sacramento Rivercat.

Buster Olney says MATT MURTON &/or HUSTON STREET may be on their way to the Rays (or Padres).

Supposedly Street has cleaned out his locker and as I posted, Murt isn't on an active roster as I write.

Wow. Apparently this has been going on since yesterday. This is first I've heard of it.

If the A's get Jeremy Heckilson or Wade Davis in this deal, then Beane made the national media look like idiots again for questioning the Harden deal.

Murton has been added to the A's 25 man roster, wearing #26.

You beat me to it.

This just in: Murt's got a job with Oakland. Wes Bankston gets sent down to AAA to make room.

He's also in the lineup hitting second behind Kurt Suzuki.

Orange & green clash pretty badly.

/just sayin'

Does anyone know the best internet place to find ticket? I'm trying to go to the 7/27 Marlins game...but StubHub costs too much, methinks.

try that that use to advertise...or ebay closer to the game. 


Thanks...I couldn't remember the name (seatrocket). I'll check it out.

I would try out the CBOE auction first and see if you can find a good deal on some front row seats. I have noticed on some games that some of those seats went unsold.

I just looked into that, and it looks like the opening bid starts at $300/seat. I wanted to just put in a low bid to see if I won, but there's no way I'm spending $1200 on 4 tickets.

Even Upper Deck Box seats are $52 face these days. Unbelievable.

If the opening bid is $300 a seat that is outrageous. Those seats are no better than those Dugout box seats they started last year that are $ 300 a seat and they want us to seat in the CBOE for that just to put a bid in! You would think with HDTV and surrond sound units the way they are now, ticket prices would drop because unless you have a seat within the first 10 rows of either behind home or the dugouts you have a better view on TV than you do sitting in the park.


Harden was working with the A's new Bullpen coach Ron Rominick on a new in between start program. He has not been throwing off a mound, but rather playing throwing long-toss to get ready for starts. The article also has a good sidebar graphic detailing his injury history. I came away from it a little less worried about his health.

Name that Cubs blog!

"Jon Lieber, meanwhile, has an ERA of 2.53 while out of the bullpen, and better yet, it's 1.86 when not facing the Reds. Maybe Lieber needs to become a 7th-8th inning presence."

Jon Lieber! Setting up! At 82 mph!

Blogger in questions that Lieber should do it because Howry's on the downhill side of his career: "I think that, at 34, he's just not setup material anymore... At this point, his numbers land him in the 6th-7th inning"

Yet Lieber, at age 38 IS setup material. Awesome stuff. Remarkable.

but...the numbers...just look at the numbers...who cares how he got the numbers.

what the hell is a 82mph? i don't understand that stat. that a new one?

that had to come from BCB, but there is no way Al wrote that. That had to be a yahoo poster, right?

Incorrect. It's an actual blog post somewhere on the internets.

well if it ain't bcb, then what is it?

Goatriders I'd bet.

The article insists its either him or Sheets because both will have enough rest to throw multiple innings. Although Aaron Cook ( a sinkerballer on 3-day rest) and Dan Haren (4-days rest) could also be considred candidates. Also Rothschild would prefer that Demp not pitch in the game, but he still wants to do it. Personally, I think they should just let Marshall pitch on Sunday since as odd as it might be to say, Tuesday's Exhibition game is a 100x more imporant to this team than Sunday's regular season game due to homefield advantage for the World Series being on the online in the ASG. Of course with the Weather projections of a 80% chance of rain tommorrow with strong T-storms throughout the day tomorrow it wouldn't be shocking if Harden is scratched for Marshall tomorrow and Harden goes on Sunday.

Saw an article in the Milwaukee something or other that said Hurdle is only considering Sheets, Cook, Haren, or Volquez.

Let it be Sheets, and let it be the best (or last) 3 innings he throws this year.


Submitted by VirginiaPhil on Fri, 07/11/2008 - 3:55pm.

Lou would definitely use his backup catcher, if he had one who could hit. Wait till September, when Welington Castillo gets called up.

Also, keep an eye out for Blake Lalli.


VA PHIL: I betcha a lot of money that when the Cubs add a third catcher in September, it will be Koyie Hill.

It's like this (and not necessarily in this order):

1. Death

2. Taxes

3. Koyie Hill will be added to the Cubs roster in September.

Hey, cousin, how are you?

I like Hill, as you know, and he seems to settle down a team when he catches--Iowa (.608) has a better winning pct. than Chicago (.602)--but I wouldn't describe him as a catcher who can hit, although he's been hitting lately. He's a lot like Blanco, except that he can step into the other batter's box.

Castillo is in the all-star Futures game, tomorrow (Sunday) I think.

A couple of other recent tidings about organizational catchers: last night, in the resumption of a game that had been suspended with Peoria down 6-1, the Chiefs tied the game in the 9th on a Luis Bautista HR and won in extras.

And Blake Lalli doubled and drove in a run in a Smokies game where he pitched a scoreless ninth, with two Ks. When was the last time you saw DH-P after a hitter's name in a box score? Talk about a triple threat, he catches, too.

He's a lot like Blanco, except that he can step into the other batter's box.


He is a lot like Blanco? Sure... except for the whole "great defensive catcher" part.

i also would agree that marshall should be pitching on
sunday dempster pitched last tuesday give him a inning
on tuesday then start him on the following sunday.

i would think 13 pitchers even after lou said he would
like another outfielder on team means it is time to
showcase some one again by trading a pitcher for a hitter
backup outfielder type .

any ideas who?

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  • based on what SF has been doing every other year lately, getting access to the postseason playoffs seems to be what's important. bring on dat short series!

    that said, skipping the sudden death 1-game WC would be nice from here on out.

  • I know what you are saying, but I feel compelled to point out that there's no such thing as luck, curses, etc. The Cubs this year have as good as a chance as the Pirates to move on to the next round. If the Cubs proceed to the next round or not tomorrow, it will not be because of luck, but because one team outlasted the other. When/if the Cubs are lucky enough to make it to the league series, that's where they may find their biggest challenge. The Dodgers have a good, deep pitching staff.

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  • i'd like to know why the internet radio feed of the game (which is always delayed by a few seconds at best) is almost a minute faster than the ESPN cable TV coverage. wtf?

  • i dont know what order they'll be in, but i pretty much expect fowler/schwarb/rizzo/bryant/montero/castro/lastella/arrieta. any change at all (aside from the first 4 guys) wouldn't shock me, though. coghlan is still a wildcard in the lineup joe could always march d.ross out there with very slow arrieta pitching.

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  • probably stacking capable lefties vs cole while keeping the "hot" castro in the game. fwiw, he's 1-6 lifetime with 0 bb/k vs cole (double).

    i chalk bryant's issues at the plate while playing OF up to coincidence so far.

  • I will call your dead horse, "Trigger".

    In one game, when anything is possble, I am glad that Joe Maddon is our Manager.

    He knows the stats better than all of us. It would seem, IF La Stella gets the start at 3B, it will be only up to the point that they were to get the lead (crosses fingers). From everything I have read, the game will be managed like a hoops game: offense/defense. So expect La Stella to be out of the game by the 5th. This team is incredibly deep which is so surprising. We never woulda thunk it.

  • i don't know what their roster plans are, but j.herrera is out there practicing with the team.

    i can't imagine him making any roster, though. dude had 4 PA the entire month of sept. him being a good dude to be around while keeping the clubhouse loose seems to be his main role at this point.

  • I know it's my own personal dead horse to beat --but Bryant has been a lousy hitter when playing the OF this year. Given that it's his first playoff game, I really hope they keep him in his natural position and don't mess with his routine.

    Lousy as in 8-for-45 with one XBH and no HR. Small sample and all that -- but why take the chance?

  • hard to tell what's up given they'll probably want to stack as many good lefties into the lineup as possible.

    castro being a bit hot doesn't help things. if he was still cool they'd probably stick la stella at 2nd and call it a day.

  • Madden won't announce lineups but Stella is practicing at 3rd and Bryant in LF today. I'd rather see Bryant at 3rd but I guess Stella has been hotter than Coghlan.

    /edit. Though I guess they could be practicing this with the idea Stella would come in as a PH then double switch him to 3rd base and Bryant to LF. Hope that's the plan instead

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