Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Submitted by Rob G. on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 1:05pm
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| SP | Kevin Correia | SP | Rich Harden |
| 1-5, 4.96, 31 K, 22 BB, 49 IP | (AL) | 5-1, 2.34 ERA, 91 K, 32 BB, 77 IP | |
| LF | #Eugenio Velez | SS | Ryan Theriot |
| 3B | Jose Castillo | RF | *Kosuke Fukudome |
| RF | #Ray Durham | 1B | Derrek Lee |
| C | Bengie Molina | 3B | Aramis Ramirez |
| CF | Aaron Rowand | C | Geovany Soto |
| RF | *John Bowker | CF | *Jim Edmonds |
| 1B | Rich Aurilia | LF | Mark DeRosa |
| SS | #Omar Vizquel | 2B | *Mike Fontentot |
| P | Kevin Correia | P | Rich Harden |
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#1 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Another good outing by Rich Hill in Arizona today, 5 innings, no runs, 3 hits, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts.
#2 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
how many pitchers does it take to protect a 5-7 run lead?
#3 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
unless marmol gets his shit together it'll be 7 pitchers rather than 6, evidently.
damn...
-edit-
wtf?
WTF?!?
sigh...
#4 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
WTF!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
#5 That was...
remarkably stupid by Theriot to not eat that ball. Not to take away from the shitty outing by Marmol and all. Hopefully he can pick up the ultimate vulture win here in the 9th.
Wood is obviously hurting, sounds like a blister.
#6 Re: stupid Theriot
holds that ball, Cubs win.
Not sure what we do with Marmol. He's not major league the last month.
#7 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Marmol would benefit from a trip to the minors, just to get away from Larry Rothschild. Rothschild has turned Marmol into Michael Wuertz, a one-pitch pitcher. "Just keep throwing the slider until they hit it. Then throw it some more."
Remember when Marmol threw 97? You've got a good memory.
I'd love to take the #50 jersey away from that guy, too.
#8 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
it could be a lot of things.
it could be his 49th appearance of the year that he's not conditioned to.
it could be blisters (as rumored by announce staff).
it could be the huge early workload on the season.
it could be aliens.
personally...im betting aliens. it's more fun that way.
#11 Re: Marmol would benefit from a trip to the minors
Rothschild might benefit from a trip to the minors.
On second thought, keep him away, far away, from our minor leaguers.
#9 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Between May 24th and May 31st, Marmol threw 128 pitches in 6 different outings over 7 days. Since then, he hasn't been the same pitcher, and has had an ERA over 8. Many expressed concern about overwork then. Maybe Marmol needs 15 days off more than anything.
#36 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
agree. put him on the dl and let him rest.
#10 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Apparantly Lou has deemed this game expendable. absolutely ridiculous that he doesn't take Marmol out there for Marshall to face Bowker. They might still pull this one out but apparantly Piniella thought it was ok to put Marmol out there to rot.
#12 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Phew!
#13 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
WOOOOOOOO!
hell yeah.
#14 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Listening to Lou's postgame comments on the radio:
He says Wood will not pitch until after the all star break due to blisters.
Blamed Marmol for the little dribbler and said if he would have made that play the inning would be over. Chalked it up as a 'learning experience'.
Either Lou isn't saying anything or they really don't believe there is any problem with Marmol. Strange.
#16 Re: 49 games
the kid's arm if falling off
#15 NOLASCO one of the best pitchers in the game
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_9858066
#17 Re: NOLASCO one of the best pitchers in the game
One of the best pitchers in the game? Not so sure about that.
I do really think it is funny that he did something that these other "great" pitchers did:
Great list to be compared to...
#18 Re: NOLASCO one of the best pitchers in the game
Are we really going to keep crying over losing Nolasco? Pitchers run into hot and cold streaks all the time. He's had half a season of above-average pitching. If he puts together 5 good years then we can talk about losing a great player.
#22 Re:NOLASCO one of the best pitchers in the game
Did you read the article? It's his pitching coach and manager making that assessment, not me.
Of course they're NOT ALONE.
Nolasco Bandwagon Filling Up -- Joe Fresaro, MLB.com
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080712&c...
Nolasco goes tonight if anyone wants to watch him. He's 9-1 over his past 12 starts, with a 2.82 ERA and 1.08 WHIP in 79.2 innings. Seems to have figure out lefties recently.
#28 Re:NOLASCO one of the best pitchers in the game
i think you might have missed the point there.
don't think anyone is calling the kid bad or an extreme over achiever...they're saying "yeah, that's nice...let's wait a while before anointing him the next jake peavy."
#19 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Nice "objective" article you linked to, all in order to make doubly sure we know how much the Cub's talent evaluation/trade prowess suck. God, your act is so tired and old - go play in your litter box, sweetheart.
#20 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
"On second thought, keep him away, far away, from our minor leaguers."
Who, of course, suck - because our farm system sucks. It's like listening to a Mynah bird - same thing over, and over, and over again...
#21 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Canadian fans are funny. Must be some kind of slumpbuster for A-Rod?
#23 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
just guessing...
...rich harden is hoping hendry trades for a couple more relievers. can't protect a 7 run lead over 2 innings? zounds.
...carlos marmol is second guessing not taking the winter off.
...lou is upset he did not run the 2-point conversion instead of kicking; cubs would have won in regulation instead of overtime.
...jim edmonds suggests to lou to leave him in the lineup a little longer, and let reed johnson be the 9th inning caddy for soriano when he returns post a-s-g. unless i missed a medical reason to do so, why sit the hottest hitter on the day?
#24 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
I'm pretty sure Edmonds was out for 'rest' he's been nursing all kinds of nagging injuries in his feet and hands.
#26 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
Didn't see the game but assume from comments above that Marmol was throwing nothing but the slider to both righties and lefties? dc60124 good point about the winter ball usage as well - adds up to a lot of wear and tear. Hopefully, we see the April-May version of Marmol reappear again post all-star break.
What's the going rate to pick up Brian Fuentes from the rockies?
#27 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
well, 4 of the 6 relievers did just fine.
besides marmol coming in to protect another 5 run game i dunno why a few of these guys couldn't have gone longer. 3 at least...2 if you don't wanna count cotts who's worked a lot lately (8 of last 12 days with 1 off-day in between).
#25 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
dc you hit it on the head marmol second guessing
not taking the winter off, the kid needs some time off.
sean marshall = player of the game
he is looking forward to going to
az. to spend some time with his favorite
news lady.
#29 Re: Game 94 Thread / Giants @ Cubs (2 of 3)
buckle your seat belts, folks...Cardinals trying to blow a giant lead in the 9th, too...
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