Game 107 Thread / Cubs @ Brewers (2 of 4)

Game Chat | Press Pass | BR Preview

SP Carlos Zambrano SP Ben Sheets
  11-4, 2.96, 87 K, 44 BB, 133.2 IP
10-3, 2.87, 115 K, 31 BB, 135 IP
LF Alfonso Soriano 2B #Ray Durham
SS Ryan Theriot SS J.J. Hardy
1B Derrek Lee LF Ryan Braun
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Prince Fielder
CF *Kosuke Fukudome RF Corey Hart
RF Mark DeRosa 3B *Russ Branyan
2B *Mike Fontenot CF Mike Cameron
C Geovany Soto C Jason Kendall
P #Carlos Zambrano P Ben Sheets

My apologies for lack of a game thread last night, I was out on a 3-day weekend celebrating seven years of marriage with the Angelfan wife. Many ask what our secret is (okay, no one does), and the answer? Marry a girl who likes baseball and doesn't mind if you check the scores on your cellphone during a sunset dinner at the beach. Lucky in love I am...

I might be a day late, but I'll pony up a few extra bucks. A comparison of the two teams heading into tonight's game:

Runs Scored 555 498
Runs Allowed 443 470
Strength of Schedule .492 .499
Team Defensive Efficiency .715 .705
Batting Average .278 .256 
On-Base Perncentage .355  .326
Slugging Percentage .441  .443
Home Runs 121 140 
Stolen Bases 58 74
Starters' ERA 3.80 4.01
Relievers' ERA 3.98 4.05
Walks Allowed 361  360
Strikeouts 798 713

Pretty close, but the Cubs definitely look like the better team on paper. A paper you can light on fire because it's not going to mean much with two games separating the clubs and a raucous crowd filling Miller.

As for the lineup, Edmonds sits again which makes me believe the knee injury is worse than what's been reported. Of course, a career .697 OPS against Sheets in 54 AB's might be another reason, along with Fontenot's hot-hitting of late.  

Zambrano vs Sheets, it doesn't get much more fun that.


great...i just got a raging case of the cooties reading your 1st paragraph.

i knew i shouldnt have skipped the shot this year.

hopefully WGN can sell me a pill to get rid of this. i could go kayaking or something afterward. maybe high-five some people.

Hey I got you one better cootiemeister- marry a gal who knows nothing about baseball, but turn her into such a fan that not only does she follow the Cubs, but on a pleasant Tuesday evening she suggests we go down to PNC to watch the Pirates play the Rockies. No promotional give-aways, no fireworks, just plain baseball. Usually it's amusing baseball too ("How they gonna blow it tonight?") The $4 grandstand ticket price (not kidding) helps this decision. But last night we were rewarded with the 26th come from behind win out of 50 victories. And my darling wife of 24 years is scoreboard watching the Cubs-Brewers game for updates.

Does she have any sisters who like elderly (50ish) men?

I haven't been paying attention to the condition of our outfielders ... what are Edmonds' and Johnson's issues for tonight?

I believe the Cubs team slugging percentage is .441 so far, not the .326 you have posted. Typo?

Also, any suggestions on where to find a woman like that?

Also, this lineup sucks.

Why isn't Zambrano batting cleanup?

never in my wildest dreams did I think we win the first two.
never in my wildest dreams did I think we would be swept by AZ last year.
baseball...good times.

I completely expected the sweep last year. I didn't expect to win in back-to-back games started by CC and Sheets.

Good times! Now let's keep up the momentum and win this series!

I was at the bar off 1 in Malibu where Mel Gibson got busted for DUI.

Good Blue Moon beer and beautiful sunset.

Thinking about going to Santa Barbara for 10th anniversary...don't know where wife will go.


GO Cubs!!!

Great game take any spirit out of those Brewer bastards and stomp in the ground like an old Pal Mal.


yeah,that was it.

Great to see Rammy and Kosuke clubbing the ball -- Kosuke's 2B vs. Shouse was a beauty.

I would love to see Soto hit one ball to right-center.

It looked like Z was firing on all cylanders tonight -- pumped up to go against Sheets, but also in control of himself.

Very solid baseball by the Cubs so far -- hitting, pitching, fielding, base-running. Keep it up, boys!

Go go gadget run differential. +118. Seriously.

Next closest in the NL is Philly at +70. Best in the AL is Boston at +89.

For what it's worth (admittedly not much), MKE is at +22 and STL is at +28.

Our bullpen is shot with Wood out, Howry sucks, DFA Marquis, where's the hitting...oh wait a minute, that was last week ;)

Maybe SD would take Marquis and send us Maddux for old time's sake instead. Interesting comparison is to look at Ted Lilly and Maddux stats this year side by side. Greg would be 8-4 with us instead of 4-8 in SD. Although you couldn't leave Maddux off a play-off roster as easy as Marquis.

Yea... so Doug Davis is throwing a perfect game... he is currently throwing in the 7th.

Doug Davis?

well i like the way the cubs have produced all
series ,good to see rami come thru, starters have been good.

nice to see braun run around in outfield missing everything.

will cubs make any trades?

i would consider cedeno the last positon player on team
is it worth the upgrade?

eyre to the east coast? for a minor leaguer ?

HUNTLEY, Ill. (AP) -- Three Chicago Cubs fans face felony charges after allegedly beating a Chicago White Sox fan so badly at a child's birthday party that he lost his eye, McHenry County authorities said...

Does McHenry County really count as a hotbed of Cubs/Sox rivalry? It's like 3 hours away. This didn't happen at a game or during a game between the teams. Looks sensationalist journalism to me. Blame the thugs not the Cubs.

Ummm... 3 hours? Not quite. More like one hour.

With that said, the vast majority of McHenry County baseball fans are Cubs fans.

Have you ever tried driving from U of Chicago to Woodstock? An hour won't get you out of Chicago. At least 2-1/2 hours from U of Chicago to Wonder Lake unless traffic patterns have changed immensely. But the point remains I doubt McHenry County is perceived as a hotbed of Cubs/Sox rivalry and the story was just being sensationalist. Probably a Sox fan spinning it to make the Cubs look bad.

Since when do we measure the distance from the University of Chicago.

I grew up in McHenry County... my family still lives there, and I live in the city.

I get to them in an hour all the time, and it NEVER takes more than about 75 minutes.

But as I already said above... McHenry County isn't a hotbed of Cubs/Sox rivalry. And this was media sensationalism.

But it still doesn't 3 hours to get to McHenry County from Chicago.

Cubs Fans Could Face Felony Charges after Postgame Fight

Let me preface this first by saying that I am drunk and rowdy everytime I go to wrigley. That being said.... When the hell did cubs fans become F*%N Soccer Hooligans?

It's all fun and games until ...

Quien es mas macho?

Carlos Zambrano es MUY F@#$ing macho

That's who!

looks like Edmonds has an arthritic knee...his previous knee scope included some microfracture work which means he's missing some articular cartilage and they try to stimulate some formation of scar tissue to fill the expect it to be cranky from here on out. The cortisone can calm things down for awhile though.

from the Sun-Times:

Cubs center fielder Jim Edmonds, who got a cortisone shot in his sore left knee after the game Sunday against the Florida Marlins, said he was ready to play Tuesday but was kept out of the lineup for one more day.

Because of Edmonds's injury issues, Levine is reporting that Jimbo is looking for lefty bat for the OF. Personally I think they need a switch hitter because if they add another lefty they will have issues with LHP. He also confirms Eyre can be had for a reasonable price. He didnt mention any names of the lefty bat, but here is a list of quality CF and Corner of who can play defense enough for Lou "just catch the damn ball" Pinella to play in RF:

AL West
Milton Bradley

AL Central:
David DeJesus
Mark Teahan

AL East:
Luke Scott
Brad Wilkerson

NL West:
Randy Winn
Dave Roberts
Jody Gerut
Brian Giles

NL Central:
Ken Griffey Jr.

NL East:
Mark Kotsay

I would doubt Bradley, Dejesus, Giles, or Scott because of the high price to get them. Griffey is also unlikely as the CIN ownership wont deal him to a NL Central team and I would put Winn that category due to his 09 salary. I think of the remaning guys the top 5 candidates could be 1. Kotsay 2. Teahan 3. Roberts 4. Wilkerson 5. Gerut.

If I see Jody Gerut in a Cubs uniform again I'm going to shit.

Rosenthal adds the name of Raul Ibanez into the mix:

I dont think that would be smart. Ibanez cant play the field and would would be asking Fukudome an average CF to be flanked by two butchers in Ibanez and Soriano. Id rather make a smaller deal for an insurance guy than add an Ibanez.

I have liked Kotsay for a few years now. I think he is a notch above everyone else on the top 5 priority list. I do also think that Gerut is possibly appealing. We got a pretty skewed look at him when he played here before...

Levine is saying Texas and SF have called Jimbo about potential trades. I wonder if Texas would trade David Murphy?

Do they still have Marlon Byrd?

Since Pie has put his early slump behind him in Iowa, he's been raking. Why look elsewhere? Torres might be worth a look too, if Pie fails too miserably, or even Kroeger as a RF.

soriano is no butcher

Soriano is pretty awful as a left fielder. He has acceptable days, but he also has really awful days. He does not have good days.


Which part? When has Soriano had a good day in the field, and who has he been better than? Particularly, when has Soriano read a fly ball or ran a route better than...anyone? I will certainly give him credit for his arm, but he's definitely been a butcher with the glove this year. I honestly thought he looked better last year, but maybe I just wanted to believe he'd be a good fielder. I mean, I thought initially that he could someday be an acceptable center fielder. So young.

Chad is right... and I rarely agree with Chad.

Soriano ranked among the top leftfielders in the game last year with his defense.

And his arm alone makes his defense very valuable.

More important here is the thought that how an outfielder 'looks' or the routes he takes to a ball has an bearing on how good a fielder he is. That's a common misconception. What is important is if he catches balls, how quickly he gets to the ones he doesn't catch, and when he throws are the throws quick, accurate and strong. Soriano screws up some balls out there, this year actually seems worse than last year, but he makes a lot of catches in the gap that the Carlos Lee's and Manny Ramirez's of the world have to pick up from the warning track.

Everyone still OK with a split? Anyone? Anyone?

no, I want blood now

I want a bloody sweep now. If i'm gonna root for the Cubs, I'm gonna be greedy about it.

Agreed. BUT - I wouldn't cry with a split either.

How bout a split of these next two? I'll take that.

No, because going in I thought a split should one of the Z/Sheets or Demp/Parra games plus the Harden/Bush game which should be a near lock. Plus a split now keeps us in this win 1 or 2 then lose 2 funk we have had since the break.

I got tickets to Friday's game for my son for a b-day present (will be his first time at Wrigley). My plan was to drive (from Ft. Wayne) to Chesterton IN and get on the South Shore Line and get off at the Van Buren station then walk to the Red Line station @ State & Jackson and take that to Wrigley. It just dawned on me today that Lolla starts Friday and the Metra stop I'm planning to use is right next to Grant Park. Is this going to be a big headache for us? Especially on the way home after the game? Also, about how long is the Red Line trip from Jackson up to Addison?

I'd suggest picking up the Brown Line at Washington & Wells or Quincy and taking that North up to Fullerton or Belmont and transferring to the Red Line. I find that the Red Line is almost unbearable on Cubs' game days, while the Brown line is mostly work commuters. Between the Cubs and Lolla, the Red line is going to be a zoo. A 95 degree, no seat, people crammed everywhere zoo.

The trip should take 35-40 minutes.

Doug Dascenzo
Thanks for the advice I might try the brown line instead, but shouldn't I get on at Adams or Library instead of walking to the other side of the Loop. Also what about walking from the Southport or Belmont station to Wrigley and skip the red line completetly.

should be fine w/ red line on a friday.

most of concert crowd will come in on metra trains from suburbs.

Yeah, I was thinking Ogilvie or Union train stations.

Walking from the Belmont station would only take about 10 minutes (~.5 mile), so that's definitely walkable. Southport would probably be a tad longer.

I usually just take the Brown Line to Belmont and walk 4 blocks north. Don't bother with the Red.

For one thing, the Red Line will be crammed with people, especially closer to Wrigley.

Further, and more aesthetically, there's a nice sense of anticipation walking up Sheffield into thickening street crowds, hearing, then smelling, then seeing Wrigley loom up in the distance.

My 2¢.

The Cubs signed another amateur pitcher from the Pac Rim - Taiwanese RHP Hsin-Hong Tsai. (Check out his ht/wt => he might be 6' and 150 lbs!!) Hopefully AZ Phil will see him sometime soon at Fitch.


Recent comments

The first 600 characters of the last 16 comments, click "View" to see rest of comment.
  • Hah which reminds me this is a good article about Ross:

  • Gordo tweeted:

    "I'm pretty comfortable moving all over. I like it that way, too. It keeps me on my toes and ready each and every game.”--Bryant last week.

    So it could be he's just saying the right things, but I believe him.

  • Which means if you shut this place down, and the Cubs go back to their old ways, we will all have to hunt you down, kidnap you, and strap you to a chair to listen to Tim McCarver and Joe Buck repeatedly, with dollops of Hawk Harrelson thrown in for good measure.

  • You got a problem with David Ross?

  • La Stella (3B) batting fifth. Could be the La Stella game.

  • [Drafts plans for CTSteve idol.]

  • Pitcher batting 9th. Bryant in left, Schwarber in right.

  • i'm not ready for it to end.

    i'm not ready for "well, they weren't supposed to make it this year..."

    i'm not ready to talk about the off-season yet.

  • I can relate to that, E-Man. I don't think I'll enjoy watching a high-stakes away game like this on TV. I've watched a lot of games this season after they ended or at least after the Cubs got out to a decent lead. Since they usually win, I've gotten to see a lot of baseball.

    But in this case I think we should probably all watch the game live, and not let the pressure exceed the pleasure.

  • Remember, as I told my wife when our kids went off to college -- this is a good thing! Enjoy it!

  • Fully agree -- can't prove it. But, the numbers are what they are, and a lot of his OF games have come in Aug & Sept, when he has been killing the ball otherwise. And, knowing how baseball players love routine, it seems logical that it could at least be a a factor.

    Really, really, really hope I'm wrong on this.

  • Indeed! It has been absolute blast -- from getting swept by the Phillies to sweeping the Giants, I have always enjoyed being part of this group. Hope we have a lot more games to talk about this year.

  • Yes, cheers to me! I've noticed a fairly strong correlation between my tenure and Cubbie victories. 

    And thanks to Michael for our new diggs--and to y'all for sticking around! 

  • CHEERS to CT Steve for keeping this alive in 2015. Who would have thought that the season would have been so successful to this point? Thank you CT STEVE!

    I think I may be too nervous to watch the entire game. I will probably watch in bits and pieces - and constantly check MLB App. I will be like Blockhead: Nervous Nellie.

  • You can't prove the performance is because he played the OF. You just can't. Sorry.

    BTW, Bryant hit .168 in July playing 3B exclusively.

  • oh man, early on it seems like he made at least 1 stupid baserunning blunder per game and almost every single one turned into a positive for the cubs. it was magical.