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Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 4:31pm

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SP Jason Marquis SP Charlie Morton

7-7, 4.73, 67 K, 47 BB, 123.2 IP
3-5, 5.70, 32 K, 22 BB, 53.2 IP
       
LF Alfonso Soriano RF *Gregor Blanco
RF *Kosuke Fukudome SS Yunel Escobar
1B Derrek Lee 3B #Chipper Jones
3B Aramis Ramirez C #Brian McCann
CF *Jim Edmonds 1B *Casey Kotchmann
2B Mark DeRosa LF Omar Infante
C Geovany Soto CF *Mark Kotsay
SS  Ryan Theriot 2B *Kelly Johnson
P *Jason Marquis P Charlie Morton

 

UPDATED UPDATE: Marquis will start the first game in today's day/night doubleheader with our man Harden going in the nightcap. Otherwise the lineup remains unchanged from last evening.

UPDATE: Nevermind, the game has been called.

The Cubs try to stay North of the standings as they head South to play the Braves and Marlins on a six game road trip. Fresh off a 6-3 homestand, where they managed to lose a game and a half in the standings, the Cubs will look for their sixth straight road win tonight. 

The start goes to Rich Harden, who will look to rebound from his first non-amazing Cub start against the Astros last week. This will be his second start at Atlanta this season, whom he beat with seven innings of eight strikeout ball back in May. Do it again! Do it again!

And no, I have no idea why Kosuke Fukudome is batting second tonight. It's certainly not because of the .227/.306/.360 line he's put up since the All-Star break.

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#1 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Raisin101 on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 4:47pm.

This game probably doesn't happen due to the rain.

#2 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 4:55pm.

wow, look at that...

http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USGA0028_f.html

#3 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Chad on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:04pm.

double header tomorrow? yikes.

#4 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:06pm.

they might wait until Thursday, looks like it'll still be raining through tomorrow morning at least.

#5 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:09pm.

blah.

#6 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by blockhead25 on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:09pm.

gameday says the game is postponed.
cubs.com doesn't say anything yet.

Cubs can afford a DH this week....better now then September like the last few years.

#7 ESPN 1k says a day/night double header

Submitted by Chifan on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:10pm.

first game at noon second one at the time it was suppose to start tomorrow.

#8 Re: ESPN 1k says a day/night double header

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:13pm.

wonder what that'll do to the rotation, they do have an off-day on Monday, but they'll need somebody for Sunday's game. I suppose Sean Marshall.

#22 Re: ESPN 1k says a day/night double header

Submitted by Chifan on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 11:13pm.

With Marquis being a "sinker-ball" (too bad his pitches dont) pitcher starting on 3-days rest should be a good thing as sinker-ballers tend to pitch best on 3-days rest. If they do go outside the rotation for a starter do wonder if they'll go with Marshall since if they do they would be 1 man down in the pen for 3 days until Marshall recouped from the spot start, of course, they could always DL Ward before the game on Sunday and recall a RP and go with 13 pitchers until Marshall is ready to pitch in relief again. I think they will play it by ear with Marshall being penciled in unless they need a long guy between Thursday and Saturday then you likely see Marquis on 3-days rest or a minor leaguer like Atkins, Rusell, or Veal if it happens to be close to their turns on the farm.

(EDIT): After looking at the I-Cubs and Smokies wesites only 2 starters are posting sub 4 ERA's at those levels and they are Mitch Atkins and Randy Wells. Atkins next start is on Thursday V. NO and Wells threw tonight so his next start would be Sunday aganist the Zephyers. I am sure AZ Phil would know for sure, but I dont think Atkins is eligable for either Free agency or the Rule V draft while Wells is, so it would be more likely Wells will get the call-up, if they decide to go that route for the start, since he will be put on the 40-man by the November deadline anyway and that his turn falls in line with the opening we have for a spot start.

#29 Re: ESPN 1k says a day/night double header

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 1:14am.

I don't know how Lieber's progressing these days, but it's more likely that Marshall, Lieber or Samardzija get that start before Atkins or Randy Wells does.

If the bullpen needs reinforcements you start Marshall and send him down and call up Wuertz or Ascanio or whichever reliever isn't sucking in Iowa right now.

#37 Re: ESPN 1k says a day/night double header

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 10:27am.

Wells should absolutely be added to the 40 man at season's end. We can call him up to pitch. Send him back down the next day. Recall him before September 3rd. And he will still have 3 options as of spring training next year.

#9 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by blockhead25 on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:17pm.

Did Pitchers warm up at all?

#10 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:29pm.

"pregame show" came on the air with the tarp already on the field and len/bob giving a real quick...hi, bye, 12pm central doubleheader tomorrow...blah blah blah

looks like any work they did was earlier in the day. the tarp on the field didn't have any grounds crew around it...it had been there a while.

#11 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Raisin101 on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:34pm.

Marquis starts game one, Harden game two tomorrow.

#12 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Hobart Mike on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:45pm.

Bummer. Was looking forward to the WGN telecast. Hope tomorrow's is on WGN ... probably not.

#14 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Raisin101 on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 6:01pm.

Game one will be on the Superstation.

Disappointing for me out in LA since I could have seen today's game after work. No way I can watch a 10 am PT game.

#13 Someone pitching for Texas

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 5:47pm.

or they just set up a pitching machine?

Rsox score 10 in the first, 2 hr's by Ortiz and 6 RBI's.

Looks like a crucial error as Feldman got charged with only 4 earned.

#15 Re: Someone pitching for Texas

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 7:11pm.

10-12 tex/bos, top 5th...

uuuugly.

#17 Re: Someone pitching for Texas

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 7:43pm.

middle 6...tex takes the lead

15-14

#19 Re: Someone pitching for Texas

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 9:11pm.

rsox up 19-16 going into the 9th...

-edit-

rsox win...19-17

37 hits, 13bb, 4 errors...

truely a game to forget.

#16 Re: Someone pitching for Texas

Submitted by blockhead25 on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 7:11pm.

I still hate that scoring standard. If a pitcher gets shelled and gives up 6 runs after an error, that means the pitcher sucked. If he didn't face those guys after the error, he would have faced them the next inning.

I've always felt that an error should wipe out the batter and all runners on base...but anyone following the error who gets on base, and comes around to score, should count as earned runs.

#30 Re: Someone pitching for Texas

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 2:51am.

I used to think the same thing, but the longer a pitcher is out there, the more tired he gets. There's no way to really predict what would happen had the error not occured, but often times the pitcher may have been able to get out of those situations with less damage.

#18 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Old and Blue on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 7:58pm.

Kosuke: "Let's play 2!"

#20 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Indiana JJ on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 9:41pm.

3 out of 6 days with no game sucks donkey balls. I'm watching fucking gymnastics for Christ's sake.

#21 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by Hawkeye on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 10:29pm.

No. You wanna know what sucks donkey balls? Try driving from Birmingham, AL to Atlanta and finding out that the game was called after being in Atlanta for an hour.

That sucks donkey balls. Eddie Murphy's balls are very happy right now.

#27 Re: Game 119 Thread / Cubs @ Braves (1 of 3)

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 11:54pm.

bleh.

#23 Sheffield put on Waivers

Submitted by navigator on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 10:51pm.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3532016

#24 Re: Sheffield put on Waivers

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 10:59pm.

almost every player on the 40-man is usually put on waivers after August 1st...

#28 Re: Sheffield put on Waivers

Submitted by Chad on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 12:55am.

Would we want him anyway? Having a horrible year.

#31 Re: Sheffield put on Waivers

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 2:56am.

I could see the dellusion-wrapped Astros getting him to replace Lee, but Detroit would have to cough up some cash for that '09 salary.

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