A Stefani September: Lieber. Angel.. Music.. Hoff-power.
I started a thread regarding the Sun-Times article this morning stating that many of the Cubs September call-ups may be delayed as the Iowa Cubs clinched the playoffs. The I-Cubs will host the Oklahoma RedHawks (Texas Rangers AAA affiliate) starting Sept 3rd in a best of 5 game series. The debate over what value the AAA playoffs bring vs getting a September reward as a call-up for a contending team doesn't get my debating shoes polished but it's interesting to see how the Cubs brass is going to handle this issue.
From the Gordon Wittenmyer notes:
The Class AAA Iowa Cubs are back in the playoffs for the first time in four years, and one small ramification at the big-league level is that a few anticipated September roster additions might stay with Iowa through its playoff series.
The exceptions: Pitchers Jon Lieber (foot) and Angel Guzman (elbow) are expected to be activated from the DL when rosters expand, and lefty hitter Micah Hoffpauir, who's having a monster season, is expected to join the big club right away.
I suppose getting Lieber is an upgrade on last year where Hendry dropped AAA talent on the Orioles for a near worthless Steve Traschel. Angel Guzman just might be another solid compliment in our bullpen. Micah Hoffpauir, well there is a big fan club out there rooting for some September Hoff-Power.
The biggest addition might not get up here until after the AAA playoffs. This is when Koyie Hill gets the call-up to add 5 mph to the pitching staff's fastballs. That's "Serious" music to my ears.
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#1 Re: A Stefani September: Lieber. Angel.. Music.. Hoff-power.
Don't speak
I know just what you're saying
#2 Re: A Stefani September: Lieber. Angel.. Music.. Hoff-power.
It's all your fault
I've gotta screen my Parachat window
#3 Re: A Stefani September: Lieber. Angel.. Music.. Hoff-power.
i sense a sept. collapse without k.hill, j.dubois, k.hart, pie, and piggy.
i guess there's always 2009.
sick of this team. bah.
#4 Well you've lost my vote..
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/112647...
"Oh that's easy, White Sox. I'm not one of those fair weather fans. The Cubs, they're nice, you go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer, the beautiful people out there, people aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox; that's baseball."
#5 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Dude has to appeal to the proletariat on the south side to put him in office. No brainer where his allegiance would be.
#6 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Barack Obama hates bathed people.
#7 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
All he needs is to get in the middle of one of the TCR comment wars and he'll find out rather quickly how serious Cubs fans can get.
#10 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Yeah, we'll flame him online, but White Sox fans will jump shirtless over the fence and beat him silly.
#9 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Nothing says fair weather fan like rooting for a team that hasn't won a championship in a century.
#11 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
While I don't mind the shot by Obama, you raise a good point. The last place Cubs will outdraw a first place Sox team. How is that fair weather?
#12 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
I think his statement does prove he doesn't know shit about what's really important in this country (baseball).
As per fair weather, may he's just saying he's not going to jump on the bandwagon just because they're winning. Though, I'm not sure how that makes too much sense, because the White Sox are winning too.
He's clearly unaware of how many Cub fan voters there are in this country. Although, McCain is from Arizona, so whatever.
#13 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
I don't think he's stance on the Cubs will cost him votes in the swing states.
And I wasn't voting for him either way.
#14 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
...never would have guessed.
#15 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
But Chad, he IS the gay rights candidate...
#16 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
But is he the mullet rights candidate?
#20 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
I actually think it was kind of a telling statement. He grew up on the South Side and was a Sox fan. It would be easy for him to say he likes the Cubs because they have more fans and are doing well. Or he could say some of the usual bullshit like: "I'm a Chicagoan first and I wish the best for both teams." But he disses the cross-town rival in favor of his team. As much as we disagree with it personally, we would hate it if a candidate were saying he were a Cubs fan and then said he likes the Sox.
#22 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
I agree, but he didn't need to criticize the Cubs in order to declare himself a Sox fan. Oh wait, that's the very definition of a Sox fan. Nevermind.
#24 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
But correct me if I'm wrong here Sandy, but haven't the Cubs consistently outdrawn the White Sox since the 50's?
#44 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
I think that is Obama's (and Sox fans') point.
"Cub fans don't care about good baseball -- even when the team sucks, people go to drink beer, have fun and check out the babes."
I have never really understood why going to the ballpark to enjoy yourself is a bad thing, but it seems to be a point of honor with Sox fans that they recognize bad baseball (by not showing up) and thus are much mroe knowledgable baseball fans.
#28 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
He did NOT grow up on the South Side. He lived there from 1981-2000 except for the three years he spent at Harvard.
#29 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
He still does live there...
#38 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Well, he moved there when he was almost 24, and I doubt he lives there now. He went to law school in MA when he was 27. He probably lives in a bus or in DC. I am guessing Cabrini Green wasn't filled with too many guys with degrees from Columbia.
I don't even consider him an American. The fact that he has an opinion on the Cubs/Sox rivarlry speaks more to where he thinks his votes come from than from hanging out with the homies in front of the tube on a Saturday evening.
Actually, if you look at his history, all he's been doing for the last 6 years is running for office.
#40 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
And we've officially fallen of the edge. Nobody cares if you consider him American.
So any news on Angel? Anyone?
#41 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Well, he moved there when he was almost 24, and I doubt he lives there now
Huh? He lives in Hyde Park, which is part of the South Side.
I am guessing Cabrini Green wasn't filled with too many guys with degrees from Columbia.
Cabrini Green isn't part of the South Side.
I don't even consider him an American.
Huh?
. The fact that he has an opinion on the Cubs/Sox rivarlry speaks more to where he thinks his votes come from than from hanging out with the homies in front of the tube on a Saturday evening.
No... it speaks to the fact that he has lived in Chicago for many years, he was a State Representative from Chicago, and he now is a Senator from Illinois.
#42 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
On a side note... what are the South Side projects down south of The Cell? The Robert Taylor homes? I forget; it's been too many moons since I lived in Chicagoland.
Do the police still route departing Sox fans down past the projects after the games? That was always a beautiful thing.
#43 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Yes, Robert Taylor homes.
And they have been torn down.
#49 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Huh?
When you're a state senator, you do that from your home district? When you're a US Senator, you do that from your home state? Do you think President Bush lives in Texas? Do you think the Clintons are die hard Mets fans?
Facts: they're a bitch.
Born in Hawaii, to a non-American father. Spent his primary education years (you know, when the rest of us were saying the Pledge of Allegiance every day) in Indonesia, while his mother was living with a 2nd non-American.
I just like my presidential candidates to be 'Americans' (not white). Born and raised in America by 2nd generation Americans. I also don't like them to be panderers (in the Gorgian sense) but that's another story.
*Minor note from the Wikipedia article on Gorgias "He says that rhetoric is to government what cooking is to medicine"
Obama '08
#50 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
When you're a state senator, you do that from your home district?
Actually... in Illinois, Senators and Reps spend more time at home than they do in session.
When you're a US Senator, you do that from your home state?
You spend half of your time at home, and half of your time in DC. He lives in Chicago. It is pretty clear. And Barack is home, in Chicago, when the US Senate is not in session, and also travels home every weekend.
Facts are only a bitch when you get them wrong. And you are getting them wrong. You were wrong about Cabrini Green. You are wrong about him not living on the South Side. You are wrong about how much time state senators spend at home.
Facts: they're a bitch.
Spent his primary education years (you know, when the rest of us were saying the Pledge of Allegiance every day) in Indonesia
He only spend a couple of years in Indonesia.
But as you say, facts: they're a bitch.
I just like my presidential candidates to be 'Americans'
This is absurd. Barack Obama is American. He was born and raised in America by Americans.
So what is your definition of American? Must never live outside the country? Must have two-second generation American parents?
#51 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
Facts:
He spent years 6-10 in Indonesia. He was in US schools in Hawaii (part of America) from 5th grade on - saying the pledge of allegiance (not that that should really matter at all for his policies). His mom's second husband only went back to Indonesia because the government made all students studying abroad come back - he wanted to stay in the US. If it makes you feel any better, he worked for fucking Mobil Oil while he was there - you really can't get any more "American" (read Republican) than that.
Fact - Obama has lived and traveled around the world, and that is a GOOD thing.
Fact - His mothers parents are descended from European colonists, mostly from England, who settled in the American colonies in the 1600s.
The idea that you vote on some silly standard that both parents of a candidate have to be 2nd generation Americans, considering we are a country founded by immigrants, and that a candidate can have never lived abroad while growing up sickens me. I'm guessing you won't be sending your children to study abroad? If only people actually voted on what policies they thought would be best to run the country...
#55 Re: Well you've lost my vote..
If only people actually voted on what policies they thought would be best to run the country...
Obama forms his 'policy' based on whatever he thinks the particuarly audience wants to hear. Decriminalize marajuana? Sure, if you're speaking to college students, but says he's against it when he's speaking to an older audience. Immediate withdrawl of troops from Iraq? That's responsible. But now, he's just talking about lowering the presence, or a 16 month withdrawl, or deferring his right to make a decision when he's President.
The guy is a panderer, and people who defend his 'policies' as what is best for the coutnry is the height of naivete. Yeah, I will take an American raised by Americans rather than some carbet bagger politician who's more interested in acquiring power and money than what is in the best interest of the country. Call me crazy, call me un-American. Call me someone who at least knows how many states there are.
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