Cubs September Swoon

Another day, another disappointing Cubs loss....

One of the many sad parts of this run of losing is that the Cubs have been competitive in all but one of these games. Scores of 5-2, 5-3, 3-0, 9-7 (11 innings), 3-0, 10-2, a 14-9 win, then back to back 4-3 losses. The pitching hasn't been great, but good enough to win a couple of those games. The bats though have certainly struggled since August 30th:

Player  BA  OBP  SLG  OPS 
Soriano  205  295  513  808 
Lee  364 432 424  856 
Edmonds 176  364  353  717 
Johnson  200  250  200  450 
Fukudome  176  300  176  476 
Ramirez  216  237  297  534 
DeRosa  219   306 406  712 
Soto  382  400  529  929 
Theriot  303  361  394  755 


A few of our regulars are performing adequately, but no one is really on much of a hot streak. The only one that screams to be benched is Fukudome and we have seen his playing time dwindle lately. Out of the bench guys, Fontenot has a .771 OPS and Cedeno 1.303 out of anyone that has gotten some AB's. 

And while every Chicken Little sports reporter out there is just dying for another Cubs collapse so they can wax poetic about the 1969 and 2008 Cubs, the magic numbers have continued to go down over the last week for the 2008 team. The same can't be said for the 1969 club who watched the Mets bullrush past them in the standings when they lost 12 of 13 including 9 straight at one point and a five game lead turned into a 4.5 game deficit. The 2008 team has lost all of one game in the standings thanks to the Brewers suffering their own, far more worrisome, meltdown.

That isn't to say there's nothing to worry about, but it is to say that the baseball gods seem to be showing some restraint on our poor, fragile Cubs hearts. 



Brewers take the lead in the bottom of the 8th...4-3.

Torres time!!! 

Brewers win...sigh.

From the previous thread:

I hate David Weathers.

He always gets the Cubs out with his crap stuff.

He just blew the game in the 8th inning.

A Reds sweep, beating CC, would have been very demoralizing to the Brewers.

Now they have an uplifting come-from-behind late inning win.

I hate David Weathers.

Sabathia with back to back no decisions. His next outing will be Tuesday at Wrigley (he misses the Phillie series)

If the Cub rotation is Lilly, Harden (vs StL), Marquis, Dempster, Z (or Z/Dempster), (vs Houston),

the brewer series will be: Lilly vs CC, Harden vs Sheets and Marquis vs Parra.

but who knows what's going on with Harden or Z that far into the future.

Despite today's Weathers-izing, the Brewers 10-game homestand ended at 3-7, including 3-4 vs. the Padres and Phillies.

That is a gift.


Sean Gallagher started for the A's in his first outing since returning from the DL, in a 5-2 Oakland win.

4IP, 0 H, 6 BB, 6K...pitch count 88.

obviously a no decision (4 inning start). EPat had an rbi single and 3 K's...former Cub (in the Kendall trade) Jerry Blevins pitched the 5th, giving up the two runs Detroit got.

The only worry I have about the Brewers is that we have to face them 6 more times this year. If we go 1-5 in those 6 games, we could be in trouble for the division title. But I still think even the Cubs can't below an 8 game lead in the loss column for the WC with 18 games to go.

The Brewers take 5 of 6 from us? Have you been watching them play during the Cubs slump? I'm sure their fans would be optimistic to see them split those remaining 6 games.

The last time we were starting to panic about the Cubs, they took 4 straight from the Brewers.

This, too, shall pass.

Billybucks: (continued from last thread).

Your points are well taken about Cubs hitting. And I will concede that Z issue is not the sole reason for the collapse.

But, while not scientific, I think time may prove my theory somewhat. If Z comes back strong in his next outing and the Cubs go on a run . . . would that lend any credence to the theory that his struggle and subsequent injury had a more severe impact on team confidence than you thought?

Also I think in a way your angle is a bit more cynical. Ultimately I agree with the fairly popular logic that if Z and Harden are healthy we make a run at the Series. If not: no chance.

Whereas what I hear you saying is that Cubs have been masking poor hitting in the second half by a couple of hitters having hot streaks and that ultimately they are not that good at the plate? And that the pitching is fairly interchangable since Marshall and Marquis are pitching well. Is that a fair summary?

Wasn't me, but OK.

haha. sorry dude.

No problem.

It could have been much worse.

It was blockhead, who still thinks btw that you are saying EVERYTHING is Z's fault. Apparently he still hasn't seen the light that one thing can domino into many things. That one bad thing can start a string of many bad things but not necessarily be the direct cause of all those things.

That's true enough, but there's no way to really prove it, which implies that it could have been something else entirely. Maybe they all got the shits from eating spicy Thai food and a pall set over the clubhouse ever since. Maybe Lou's hemerroids are acting up and he's been more bitchy lately creating more pressure in the player's minds. Maybe some of the guys struggling have nagging injuries that we don't hear about. Maybe it's been Wood and Marmol's return to mortalhood that's weighing on the team. I just don't like the idea that if Zambrano is pitching, no matter how crappliy it is, the who team thinks that all is right in the world. They, just like us, are not stupid.

A little distraction...

In what year was the Famous Wrigley Field Marquee painted it's current red color? What color was it before this?

(no physical prize for getting this right, but on your deathbed, you will receive TOTAL consciousness)

...I'll be back in an hour.

Total guess...

1942 and Green.

it was hideous brown...

year..dunno..i'll guess 20,000 BC.

according to my Cubs 2008 desktop calendar...

The marquee used to be fern green until it was repainted red in 1960.

looks like manny's reward will be semi-consciousness

I'd love to see a picture of it in green (hold the photoshop, please) but it seems like most of the photo's from the 1950's or earlier posted on the net are B&W

Brandon Lyon blows a 3-2 lead in the bottom of the 9th vs SF after the Dbacks got a 2 spot to take the lead in the top of the 9th. Must be crushing given how things have changed in the west.

also Phils lose late to the fish, who scored one in the 8th to take a one run lead and 3 in the 9th to ice the game.

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  • j.urias didn't have a good debut...

    2.2ip 5h 4bb 3k...3 r/er...1 wp

    81 pitches. yow.

    crunch 2 hours 19 min ago view
  • Ach - I really only saw it quickly and thought that's where it it. No matter - he crushed it and the video board people did not have to repair the panels from what I saw!

    The E-Man 2 hours 31 min ago view
  • Totally agree with that re Soler, whereas Bryant seems to get the close call (so far) this year.

    Good to see Baez get a couple knocks today - been awhile

    Eric S 2 hours 37 min ago view
  • that works too...there wasnt a good CSN replay...was going off whatever len or jd (dont remember) said.

    crunch 2 hours 43 min ago view
  • I was there. From what I saw it was upper third of the scoreboard

    The E-Man 2 hours 46 min ago view
  • No I have been thinking actually that he seems to lead the Cubs with balls called strikes all year. He really shouldn't be expanding his zone to swing at many of those either because it wouldn't lead to anything good. He's seeing the ball well though so hopefully it'll even out.

    johann 3 hours 44 min ago view
  • So why don't the umps like Soler, or am I just imagining it?

    Rob Richardson 3 hours 55 min ago view
  • Yeah, but he kills lefties.

    billybucks 5 hours 59 min ago view
  • wow...instant hardcore rain.

    rain delay.

    crunch 6 hours 7 min ago view
  • it was massive...hit off the bottom of the LF scoreboard.

    crunch 6 hours 38 min ago view
  • Projected at 461 ft, with a 108 mph exit velocity - longest Cub HR this year by 20 ft (I think Arrieta had the longest?)

    Eric S 6 hours 47 min ago view
  • this team is full of horrible walkup music...rizzo uses 'marky mark and the funky bunch' more than he should...which is any at all.

    d.ross uses alphaville 'forever young' because lulz.

    lastella was using (still might be) 'oh what a night' by the four seasons.

    turrible turrible stuff.

    crunch 6 hours 48 min ago view
  • ROSS #100!

    cubs lead 1-5, bottom 4.

    crunch 7 hours 5 min ago view
  • Just noticed that Baez's current walk-up song is "Informer" by Snow. Dear God. That's world class bad.

    misterwhipple 7 hours 7 min ago view

    crunch 7 hours 15 min ago view
  • Hey Lester is left handed!

    johann 8 hours 7 min ago view