Game 148 Thread / Cubs @ Astros (kinda) 2 of 2

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SP *Ted Lilly SP Brian Moehler
14-9, 4.29, 166 K, 60 BB, 184.2 IP
11-6, 4.16, 76 K, 33 BB, 138.1 IP
LF Alfonso Soriano CF Reggie Abercrombie
2B *Mike Fontenot 2B Mark Loretta
1B Derrek Lee SS Miguel Tejada
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B #Lance Berkman
RF *Micah Hoffpauir RF Hunter Pence
C Geovany Soto 3B Jose Castillo
CF *Jim Edmonds LF *Darin Erstad
SS Ronny Cedeno C Humberto Quintero
P *Ted Lilly P Brian Moehler


This sure is a tough turn-around. It's like partying all night, hooking up with a few perfect 10 models and then having to drag your ass back to your job the next morning. Only your job is located in a city that smells either like fermenting yeast or a tannery depending on which way the wind blows (true story, that is how Milwaukee smells).

Cubs go for the sweep (I guess) with Ted "Knockout" Lilly on the mound. The only way to top last night's game is either a perfect game or a four homer game by one of our hitters. I expect nothing less.


For those wanting to relive last nights WGN broadcast archived at, Pat and Ron's call of the bottom of the ninth starts at about 3:01 point in the archive file.

Do you have to be an subscriber to view it?

By "Pat and Ron" I refer to the WGM-AM720 audio broadcast, but yes even for that one needs to be a subscriber to MLB. Pretty good bargain though- access to a couple thousand live and archived broadcasts every summer, for fifteen bucks.

Oh, I thought the season was over. There's more baseball?

Milwaukee's season would be much, much different if they had not been on the bad end of two four game sweeps, one by the Cubs at the end of July, the other by the Phillies just now. Of course, after the Cubs' sweep at the end of July, the Brewers responded by winning 10 of their next 12. It also did not help to get swept by the Mets at the beginning of September.

They may need to do that now to make the playoffs at all. Let's hope that they do not do it in the 6 games remaining against the Cubs. The Brewers have not won a series this month.

hoffpower in RF...can't say im surprised...can't be worse than DWard.

According to WSCR>

They passed out press release at Miller park a few moments ago.

Just announced Yost's firing on the WGN radio broadcast of the Cubs game. Wow.

And here I'd been looking forward to a few more boneheaded managerial moves from him over the last two weeks.

Former Brewer great Dale Sveum taking over.

holy crap, they are done.

I just read through the Jayson Stark "That's Debatable" chat on where they discussed the neutral field issue.

I understand where Houston and Houston fan are coming from, but there are several truths that can't be avoided here:

1. McLane waited too long in hopes of keeping the series in Houston. He should've flown his team in the night before. If the Astros were so concerned about leaving their families behind, they should've brought them all with -- it's not like MLB salaries are inadequate for the task of chartering more planes.

2. The Cubs would have the fan majority at any MLB park not in Texas. Arlington was not an option because the Rangers have a game there today.

3. If the Astros had won last night, this would be completely a non-issue

As well as one highly-likely speculation:

4. Big Z was on yesterday and would likely have been dominant (although perhaps not unhittable) wherever he pitched.

Yeah, the way this unfolded definitely played into the Cubs favor, but it's not a conspiracy. It's the combination of limited options and McLane's bullheadedness that resulted in Houston playing in MKE without adequate rest.

Sucks to be Houston, but there it is.

I cannot recall where I saw this idea, but I thought it was one of the best ones considered: They should have played the game at the Astros AAA affiliate in Round Rock, a suburb of Austin.

The field only seats about 10,000, but it would have been a reasonable, fair, and exciting alternative. If McLane had really been looking out for all the interests he claims, then this would have been his best option.

I am sure that there are many reasons why this venue would be unacceptable to some, but I cannot think of any that are reasonable enough to prevent the game from taking place in the AAA stadium.

I suspect getting a AAA stadium that hasn't been used in a couple weeks and likely got a couple inches of rain during Ike (I haven't seen any wx reports from Austin, just speculating) wouldn't be very feasable on less than 24 hours notice.

I also imagine that after 2 games were washed out, MLB wanted to be totally sure that the games would be played. That means finding a domed stadium.

Most importantly, I'm sure McLane knows very well that he'll make a lot more money by selling premium priced tickets to 20 thousand + cub fans than he would selling out 13 thousand seats in Austin.

Wow -- can't remember a manager that was tied for a playoff spot with 2 weeks to go ever getting fired.

That's rough.

Houston breaks up Lilly's no-hit bid in the bottom of the seventh inning. 15 straight hitless innings for the 'stros.

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  • Phil, I just wanted to say thank you for diligently tracking the Cubs prospects in extended spring training and sharing your knowledge with us. It's remarkable how you're able to keep box scores for multiple games at once. I, and I'm sure others here, appreciate the data and insight you provide for us.

    K Dub 1 hour 14 min ago view
  • Thanks PHIL.

    Boy, that is a nifty K:BB ratio Hudson has going at almost 4:1!

    I hope he continues improving.

    The E-Man 7 hours 11 min ago view
  • And of course the Bucs won again playing AZ (not PHIL). They dont seem to have a problem yet with the bottom feeders.

    They picked up 3 games this last week.

    I'm looking forward to them coming to the Chi.

    The E-Man 7 hours 40 min ago view
  • Don't mess with the SI jinx. Since the Javy/Cubs cover came out, he is 2-for-20 with no walks.

    billybucks 7 hours 50 min ago view
  • BRADSBEARD: If all three are assigned to Eugene, the Cubs can play Galindo, Paredes, and Paniagua at the same time by moving Paredes between SS-3B-DH, Galindo between 3B-1B-DH, and Paniagua between 1B-LF-DH. 

    The Cubs like to have their players (including their minor leaguers) learn to play more than one position even if they eventually are projected to settle at one spot, and I suspect that will be reflected at Eugene, with just about everybody who will be assigned there able to play at least two positions. 

    Arizona Phil 8 hours 11 min ago view
  • Thanks - at least the scorer was consistent

    Eric S 8 hours 24 min ago view
  • I don't think the error call was completely out of the blue but the ball took a very bad hop and would have taken a very good play to get it. Same with one of the Stella throws where I think it could have easily been ruled a hit. Neither were cut and dry calls though imo.

    johann 8 hours 53 min ago view
  • chased a high fastball...

    I think his BABIP during his run has been around .950

    Rob G. 9 hours 9 min ago view
  • Great stuff CubbyBlue!!! I think it inspired today's six spot as well.

    Eric S 9 hours 13 min ago view
  • That's all fine and good, but I think it's short-changing the Arrieta-like affect of his beard

    Eric S 9 hours 17 min ago view
  • Was the error scored on Zobrist's third ab ruled correctly? Ron was saying that it was a pretty tough chance for the fielder

    Eric S 9 hours 26 min ago view
  • Did anybody see that Zobrist strikeout?

    That was extremely disappointing.

    Old and Blue 11 hours 2 min ago view
  • Strangest win of the year, and one of the sweetest. Twice I thought it was easily in the bag, then after the first 2 hitters in the 9th I thought all was lost. Big game for Grimm, Strop & Rondon. But, man, those Cards can hit for power.

    billybucks 11 hours 37 min ago view
  • Very satisfying, gut-check win today. The beers on the trip back to Chicago are going to taste fantastic.

    Eric S 11 hours 53 min ago view
  • It's still very early but this game felt very important to me and probably knocked 2 years off my life. Seemed like every inning was big.

    johann 12 hours 40 min ago view
  • Yes then they moved him two spot then not so much, back batting 7th

    jacos 12 hours 40 min ago view