Game 157 Thread / Cubs @ Mets (3 of 4)

"—like the sound of inmates rooting on two guys aiming to shank each other in the middle of the yard."

Fantastic description!

I happened to attend the 2002 Mets-Yankees game at Shea, which was Roger Clemens first at bat following his roid-rage-tastic broken bat assault of Mike Piazza in the previous year's WS.

The fans were unquestionably out for blood. It was as if we were about to watch an ultimate fighting challenge instead of baseball.

As a matter of fact, when Estes whimped out, I thought that half the crowd was going to run out to the mound and pull his arms off.

I also have to say that Shea is by far the worst baseball venue that I have ever been to.

Speaking of ballpark acoustics - Hawk Harrelson has made it official - he's fucking crazy. Many had supposed as much for many years, but this has proved it beyond any doubt.

"According to Hawk, who stated that he has been formulating this theory for thirty years, the subconscious 'eats whatever the conscious feeds it,' and when the sound waves in a stadium "bounce around" the inside of a player's skull, it creates "positive vibes" or "negative vibes," depending on whether that player is home or away. There you have it folks--the science of home field advantage."

I recommend the entire read. Very enlightening for those among us who wear tinfoil hats.

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/09/hawk-h...

Anymore questions on who the game 1 starter should be?
1 awesome performance, does not make up for the 8 bad to awful ones that have surrounded it.

Headline of the lead story on Cubs.com right now:

"Cubs try to be unwanted Big Apple of Mets' eye"

That is some lousy, lousy copy.

No way they should risk this great season on the instability of CZ. Game 1 and Game 5 pressure would be in his head. Big time.

derosa

derosa?

Well CHAD and BLOCKHEAD25, you guys still want to go with the "veteran" WARD who popped out again, while Hoffpaiur had a key single this inning?

The 28 year old kid is outplaying the veteran, in my opinion.

He deserves it, and no, in my opinion DWARD will not be 2008's Randall Simon

wow sutcliffe on espn was calling all of samardzjas
pitches.

could cedeno be playing his way off roster
or is he safe due to the righty lefty numbers
on bench?

Ward and Howry are old and bad.

Experience without ability doesn't get you much.

Cedeno is safe...

As for the bullpen I don't trust any of them except for Marmol :(

Wood and Cotts are 'ok'.

Marshall is in according to Lou.

After that...hmmm Gaudin can be either really good or really bad

Samardzija will walk anyone if you take a few pitches...had a nice debut but he's not ready.

Howry is worse than Samadrzija.

Hart won't be there.

Remember in 03 when Dusty had Veres on the roster as dead weight...now we have a whole bullpen of dead weight.

We're going to need some truly studly starts to get this done in the playoffs.

If you don't have Cedeno, that means either Fukudome or Fontentot start vs. LHP, which has not been Lou's MO for the past month.

Thank god for the days off in the playoff schedue -- Marmol is going to have to pitch every game (or at least the ones they have a chance to win).

The Mets are so bad they can't even beat a team that has nothing to play for. I WANT them in the first round lol...who's going to cough this thing up for the Cubs....errr 'close' the game?

Mets had the winning run at third, no outs, David Wright at the late, Bob Howry on the mound....and couldn't score. Then....BOOOOOM! go the Cub bats.

This game could wind up being payback for September 2004.

Okay.

I am 2 and 1 when I watch a game at Wrigley this year.

I am 4 and 0 when I watch a Cubs game at a certain sports bar/restaurant in town.

I am 0 and 3 when I wear a Cubs t-shirt I bought a month ago. One of those losses was the one loss I saw at Wrigley.

Before the playoffs, I think I should wear the t-shirt to the restaurant, so I can see which magick is stronger.

Am I being too much of a dork about this? Or is this serious business that must be taken care of?

Keep in mind, your very happiness may depend on what I wear, and where.

Mets still only a game and a half behind Phils. Best thing that could happen is those two battling to the wire with Mets on top. Then let the Brewers have their fun this weekend - with the Phils out of playoffs, only LA with Manny and their pitching is threatening. Obviously, the Cubs could lose or beat anyone but as long as I'm wishing, I think I'd like Philly to stay home.

Of course, the Mets and Brewers are so bad, I'm not sure they can beat even half a decent team. Brewers had two hit tonight.

i realize that the cubs are 6-2 when i wear
my sergio mitre autographed cubs hat.

but i never did like him except for one
game vs. roy halliday
where he out pitched halliday

yeah philly definately scares me the most

I was listening to discussion on XM about the upcoming weather approaching NY and Philly. Tomorrows game, if a washout might have to be played on monday (since the chance of the gave vs Houston is pretty small now, but not zero).

Having to travel before game 1 on Oct 1st (Wed)...will be a bizarro conclusion to the season. Hopefully it gets sorted out by sunday, as in The Marlins or Cubs putting one of those two teams (but not both) out of their misery...

Of course the entire weekend in both Philly/NY could be wiped out by rain from what I'm hearing. Two doubleheaders? Last game at Shea celebrated by mudwrestling match? That might even delay the start of the NL playoffs...Fox forbids that.

btw, what's wrong with DeRosa...something about a strained left calf...I didn't get to see what happened (please provide more details if there are any)...rotoworld says DeRo is day-to-day...aren't we all?