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Try a Little Tenderness

Today is the day when contracts are tendered to players on MLB Reserve Lists who are unsigned for 2009.

Any player who is "non-tendered" today immediately becomes an unrestricted free-agent, and is free to sign a major league or minor league contract with any MLB club, including the club that non-tendered the player. 

There are two types of unsigned players, so-called "arbitation-eligibles" (players who have accrued at least three years of MLB service time but less than six years, plus a handful of players who have between two and three years of MLB ST who qualify for arbitration as a "Super Two") and so-called "auto-renewals" (players who do not yet qualify for salary arbitration, so that the club can automatically renew the player's contract if an agreement cannot be reached by the first week of March).

"Auto-Renewal" players are almost always tendered contracts. The MLB minimum salary in 2009 will be $400K (up from $390K), and players must be offered at least the MLB minimum salary, and the salary offered must be no less than 80% of the player's 2008 salary.  .

The only time you might see a club non-tender an "auto-renewal" is if the player was injured in winter ball (injured players can't be outrighted after 11/20 or prior to 16 days prior to the start of the next season), or if the player's roster slot is needed to add a free-agent who signs sometime just prior to 12/12, or to clear a roster slot to make room for a player acquired in a trade during the Winter Meetings.

Since the Cubs roster presently stands at 37, there is no reason not to tender contracts to the Cubs 20 auto-renewal guys.

Aribtration-eligible players are a completely different matter, however. A club cannot automatically renew the contract of an arbitration-eligible player. If the player and the club cannot agree on a salary, the player and the club submit a number, and a three-person arbitration panel picks one of the two figures. Since youi never know what the arbitrators are going to do (they base everything on statistics, comparing the player to what other players with similar stats & service time are paid), clubs tend to view a hearing as a "crap shoot," and most GMs usually do not want to take a chance of losing in arbitration.

Jim Hendry has a history of tendering arbitration-eligible players, but he has never gone to arbitration with a player. The normal outcome is that the Cubs and the player will find a middle-ground between the player's request and the club's offer, and so thus a hearing is avoided. Hendry is always more than willing to offer performance bonuses to increase the value of a deal if the player feels the base salary is too low.   .

Arbitration-eligible players cannot be offered a base salary that is less than 80% of the player's previous year's salary, or less than 70% of the player's salary from two seasons ago (but if the player is non-tendered and then is re-signed, the maximum pay cut does NOT apply). So to know the minimum a player can get, you have to know the salary of each arbitration-eligible player from each of the last two seasons .

The Cubs have six players eligible for salary arbitration (2008 salary in parenthesis):

Ronny Cedeno ($407K)

Neal Cotts ($800K)

Chad Gaudin ($1.775M)

Kevin Gregg ($2.5M)

Reed Johnson ($2.07M - combined TOR and CUBS)

Michael Wuertz ($860K)

Reed Johnson made $2.17M in 2008 (a $870K severance when he was released by Toronto at the end of Spring Training and then a $1.3M salary from the Cubs), but he was paid $3.075M in 2007. Therefore, if Johnson is tendered, he cannot be paid less than 70% of his 2007 salary  ($2.07M). So if he is tendered (and he almost certainly will be), I would think the Cubs will offer somewhere around the minimum-allowable $2.1M and Johnson will request something like $3M, with the player and club settling for around $2.5M  And if the Cubs do settle with Johson prior to a hearing, the deal could be maybe $2.25M with up to $500K in incentives related to games played & plate appearances.    

Gregg was a closer for much of 2008 so he should get a bump because of his save numbers. Therefore, the biggest disparity among Cubs aribtration-eligibles will probably be with Kevin Gregg,.The Cubs will likely offer Gregg about $3.5M, and Gregg will probably want about $5.5M, with the player and club perhaps agreeing to a $4.5M pre-hearing figure, although if the Cubs and Gregg do agree prior to getting to arbitration, it will probably involve the Cubs offering a lower base salary ($3.75M) but with maybe $1.5M in incentives related to appearances and games finished. 

Chad Gaudin would probably get a bump up to at least $2.5M if his case were to make it to arbitration, but I would think the Cubs would not want to pay him anywhere near that much (guaranteed). I would bet the Cubs would prefer to offer Gaudin a relatively low base salary (about $1.5M, something close to the maximum allowable 20% cut) plus maybe another $1M in incentives based on appearances and/or games started (should he be moved to the starting rotation at some point). Since it is not clear if Gaudin would accept such a deal, he could get non-tendered, but with the Cubs hoping to re-sign him for less money after he becomes a free-agent (and good luck with that).      

Cedeno, Wuertz, and Cotts are fairly simple to estimate. Whether it goes to arbitration or is settled prior to that, Cedeno will likely get around $750K, and Wuertz and Cotts will probably end up with something like $1.25M, with Wuertz and Cotts both likely to receive up to $250K in incentives.   

Auto-renewal and aribtration-eligible players do not get guaranteed contracts, so they can get released during Spring Training.(as happened with Reed Johnson when he was with the Blue Jays last year)  A player who is released at least 16 days prior to Opening Day receives 1/6 of his 2009 salary (potential incentives not included) as severance, and if a player is released prior to Opening Day but less than 16 days prior to the start of the season, the player gets 1/4 of his salary as severance (potential incentives not included). So even if they are tendered, any or all of the Cubs six arbitration eligible players could get released during Spring Training and the Cubs could save some 2009 payroll that way (should that become necessary or if that is desirable).

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#1 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Nice title, AZ Phil.

Chad Guadin's name is funny in the post there.

Taveras and Saito are the 'big names' rumored to not be tendered according to the various links compiled at mlbtraderumors. Taveras (I am probably spelling that wrong) is a pretty simliar player to Johnson. Trade a little speed and defense for a little hitting skill. Since his batting average is supported so much by bunts and infield hits, I doubt he'd take much of a hit if any if you move him out of Coors.

I think if Guadin wants more than $2.5 million, let him walk.

#3 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

tav has lingering leg issues keeping him from being trade bait this winter...no takers even out of those who kicked the tires on him in trade talks.

#5 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

I believe there was a Tim Redding for Tavares deal that just got nixed because Taveres didn't pass the physical...

#2 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Where does Jake Peavy fit into all of this?

#22 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

It looks like the Jake Peavy talks are dead.

Apparently we are going to revisit the Brian Roberts talks.

Then maybe work on trading Sammy Sosa

#26 Re:Where does Jake Peavy fit into all of this?/ Jason Marquis?

New post up on Bruce Miles' blog who claims he actually was in Las Vegas

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1109

#4 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

BTW, just as a point of information, the 20% maximum pay cut for arbitration-eligible players does NOT apply to Article XX free-agents who are offered and accept salary arbitration. The club can offer the FA any amount, regardless of what the player was paid the previous season, as long as it is at least the MLB minimum salary.

#6 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

with no Peavy on the budget, I see no go reason to let any of those guys go

#7 Stuff....

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck/200...

as expected, no Felix Pie to O's w/o Peavy coming to the Cubs.

morning funnies from rotoworld...
Manny Ramirez is growing extremely upset about the lack of suitors for his services, so much so that he has told friends he would contemplate retirement if a suitable offer doesn't arrive soon, a person close to the situation told Newsday.
We needed a good laugh at the end of a busy week. We're sure Manny will be receiving a lot of sympathy. To think there aren't dozens of teams willing to pay him $25 million for a one-dimensional 36-year-old known for giving it all only when he feels like it.

#9 Re: Stuff....

might I add, Manny to the Angels would be fantastic...Dodger fans went nuts over Manny here and rightfully so, to see him go to the Angels would be a great way for Arte to screw with McCourt and the Dodger fans.

#8 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Rotoworld: The Orioles will not be able to land Cubs outfielder Felix Pie in a stand-alone trade that doesn't involve Jake Peavy.
The O's had dreams of sending Garrett Olson to the Padres and receiving Pie from the Cubs in a three or four-team trade. With talks between the Cubs and Padres falling flat, the Orioles are now out of the mix. Baltimore executives said Thursday that the Cubs won't budge on Pie without Peavy being somehow involved.

#10 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Submitted by WISCGRAD on Fri, 12/12/2008 - 12:14pm.

Rotoworld: The Orioles will not be able to land Cubs outfielder Felix Pie in a stand-alone trade that doesn't involve Jake Peavy. The O's had dreams of sending Garrett Olson to the Padres and receiving Pie from the Cubs in a three or four-team trade. With talks between the Cubs and Padres falling flat, the Orioles are now out of the mix. Baltimore executives said Thursday that the Cubs won't budge on Pie without Peavy being somehow involved.

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WISCGRAD: The thing I don't understand about the Cubs unwillingness to trade Felix Pie is that if the Cubs sign Bradley (or Abreu) to play RF, and with Fukedome supposedly the left-handed hitting platoon guy in CF, and with Pie out of minor league options, why wouldn't the Cubs be open to trading Pie, unless Hendry believes the Peavy trade talks aren't dead?

Maybe the Cubs won't trade Pie to Baltimore for Garrett Olson, but unless they are holding onto him until they are able to get Peavy, the Cubs certainly must be thinking about trading Pie somewhere. Otherwise, is Pie going to take the last spot on the bench away from Hoffpauir? Or is Pie going to take Cedeno's slot on the 25, with the Cubs hoping (praying) that Fontenot can play SS if anything happens to Theriot?

I just can't see that happening. Pie would appear to be the odd man out.

#11 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

To answer your questions: yes.

#12 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

I also agree completely. I think you have Soriano, Fukudome, Johnson, New RF, Lee, Hoffpauer, DeRosa, Fonentont, Theriot, Cedeno (or other backup IF), Ramirez, Soto, backup catcher. That leaves a 12-man staff. If Pie is on there something else has to give.

I don't like the idea of having Fontenot, Theriot, DeRosa, and Ramirez to cover 3 IF positions. That eliminates double switches, prevents DeRosa from filling-in in RF, and makes it difficult to rest Ramirez.

#57 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

I can't imagine the Cubs shedding Pie just to make room for Cedeno. I actually expect Cedeno to be non-tendered today.

Cedeno lost me, finally, with his poor fielding in September. He had ten errors, by the way, in winter ball last time I looked. I don't think Lou has much use for him, which is why he keeps talking about trying Fontenot at short.

#58 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

#67 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Lou (or you) doesn't like Cedeno because of his defense, yet Lou (or you) wants Fontenot at short?

Nice.

#13 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

If Bradley signs with Rays, does Pie go to Marlins for Hermida?

#14 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

I don't see why the Cubs don't just make a Felix Pie for Garrett Olson trade, even if the Peavy talks have been suspended.

At the very least, even if there isn't room for him in the starting rotation and he gets optioned to Iowa, Olson becomes the Cubs #1 pitching prospect and could be a fall-back option if a starter goes down during the season.

And Olson could be the key to a deadline deal (as happened with Sean Gallagher last year), maybe even eventually for Jake Peavy!

#15 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Maybe Johnson's spot is not as safe as we think, or Hendry's got a trade destination for Fukudome in his back pocket.

#59 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

It's possible that Fukudome spends part of the season in Iowa. I remember Lou's comment after game 2 with the Dodgers: There's not much point in running him out there again.

#70 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Yeah, that was a very astute comment by Lou who followed that up by:

1. Running him out there
2. Watching him single off a pitcher who apparently was channeling Walter Johnson for the evening.

#16 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

with a guy who can get a bat through the zone as fast as pie what's the use in giving up on him now?

he's not polished or 09 ready, but the team seems to be just fine working around it.

#31 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

"with a guy who can get a bat through the zone as fast as pie what's the use in giving up on him now?"

That's what I've been saying.

#20 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Maybe Hendry believes he can get more for Pie and this is just posturing.

#23 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

maybe the Cubs just don't like Garrett Olson...

#17 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

My cracked crystal ball says that Bradley will be a Cub by this time next week.

He is simply the best fit for RF of all of the available options, and he offers the added versatility of being a switch-hitter and being able to play all three OF positions if needed.

Since this is THE critical off-season move, Hendry will get it done.

#18 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

Submitted by crunch on Fri, 12/12/2008 - 12:59pm.

with a guy who can get a bat through the zone as fast as pie what's the use in giving up on him now?

he's not polished or 09 ready, but the team seems to be just fine working around it.

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CRUNCH: I like Felix Pie as much as anyone, but Pie has to be on the trading block because he is out of minor league options and would appear to be blocked by Kosuke Fukudome. So if the Cubs can get a quality young pitching prospect like Garrett Olson back for Pie, that's a good thing.

An even better alternative would be if Fukudome decides he isn't happy and wants to return to Japan, and the Cubs can convince the Tokyo Yomiuri Giants to acquire Kosuke, even if it means the Cubs would have to pay half his remaining salary. Then there would be room on the 25-man roster for Pie plus $6M in suddenly available 2009 payroll to spend.

#19 Re: Try a Little Tenderness

That'd be great, but I think Fuki, like most pro athletes, believes he has what it takes.

#27 Re: Fuki, like most pro athletes, believes he has what it takes

you mean he's delusional?

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