A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Some interesting storylines developing this weekend.
Alex Rodriguez, Donald Fehr and Bud Selig are going to have some splainin' to do with Sports Illustrated breaking a blockbuster HERE regarding ARod testing positive for two anabolic steroids in 2003 while with Texas. In fact, it's not just ARod but 104 players in total are on this list, which led to MLB adopting a random testing program for steroids in 2004. More than 5% of players tested were showing positive results in what was hoped to be proof that steroid use was nothing more than a rare situation. When the games biggest stars get pantsed as cheaters, in this case as defined by ARod turning his talents into $25-30 million/year contracts, the steroid era stain just keeps on spreading. Kind of like that pink spot in "The Cat in the Hat Comes Back".
When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."
Primobolan, which is also known by the chemical name methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug that is more expensive than most steroids. According to a search of FDA records, Primobolan is not an approved prescription drug in the United States, nor was it in 2003.
Rodriguez finished the 2003 season by winning his third straight league home run title (with 47) and the first of his three MVP awards.
Because more than 5% of big leaguers had tested positive in 2003, baseball instituted a mandatory random-testing program, with penalties, in '04.
Truth or Consequences? This is the Katie Couric Interview with ARod after the Mitchell Report was released last year where he flat out denies using PED's. Here are three blunt questions he was asked in that interview:
Q: For the record, have you ever done steroids, Human Growth Hormone or any other PED's?
Q: Have you ever been tempted to use any of those things?
Q: Who do you think has the real HR record, Hank Aaron or Barry Bonds?
Bruce Levine
was on vacation (at the Dunes in Vegas) for his regular ESPN radio
"Talkin' Baseball" show. Jonathan Hood substituted and Len Kasper was
interviewed. Len did say they will have 9 Cub games on TV this spring starting with two from Las Vegas begining March 4th. ESPN-1000's website now has downloadable archives
to Levine's weekly show for those who need a "BRUUCE" fix.
The Waddle and
Silvy show, daytimes (locally in Chicago) on ESPN-1000 radio has a similar site that has archives.
Their show from Feb 4th has an interview with Steve Stone who typically
is critical of the Cubs (this time for trading DeRosa and not signing
Blanco).
In a separate interview (same show) they talk to Todd Hollandsworth who will
now be doing the pre/post game duties for the Cubs on Comcast Sports
Network. Hollandsworth should be a nice addition, replacing Dan Plesac who has moved on to the new MLB network. Hollandsworth had been a weekly feature on David Kaplan's WGN radio Sports Central show, which essentially turned into a test run for him getting the CSN job. Color me a big fan of Plesac's work and the new MLB network which just added Bob Costas to their talent pool this week.
Rock on Len. Roll on Bruce.
In this MASN interview with Rich Hill by Roch Kubatko, Hill says his loss of control was due to a bad back, not the YIPS. His problems in Venezuela winter ball were due to shoulder tendonitis which is supposedly now resolved. Hill refers to a small joint in his low back, probably referencing to problems with what is called lumbar facet syndrome.
Towel drills this spring would not be a good sign for Hill.
Phil "Wrongway" Rogers in his weekend Whispers column makes up the rumor that the Astros are planning a sneak attack on the Cubs by signing Adam Dunn which would bench CF Michael Bourne. The notion that he's proposing an outfield of Dunn-Pence-CLee would be essentially like making a death threat against Hunter Pence.
ESPN's Jerry Crasnik writes HERE that Ray Durham is considering retirement because he's not getting any job offers. It's just my opinion but Durham might be a better righty bench option (than Rich Aurelia) for the Cubs if he could fill in as a backup at 3B. That might be a big IF, but Durham did hit .289 .380 .432 in 2008. Aurelia can backup at 3B but his line in 2008 was .283 .332 .413, so Durham gets on base significantly better.
There are some cool looking advertisements (here) coming from the Cubs using the Wrigley Marquee and paired Cub players. Some of the titles include:
The Blueprint for Heaven's Ballpark, with Lou Piniella and Ryan Theriot
Home of the Mysterious 24 hour Flu, with Ryan Dempster and Geo Soto
The Reason You Put Up With the Winters, with Z and DLee
What Happens in Wrigleyville Stays in Wrigley, with Ted Lillyhammer and Aramis Ramirez
On Sunday, February 8 at 10:30 PM (Chicago time), Comcast SportsNet will air SportsNite: A Perspective on Cubs Pitching, a half-hour special breaking down this season’s Cubs starting rotation, relief corps and potential closers. The special will be hosted by Chicago Tribune Live host David Kaplan and CSN Cubs play-by-play announcer Len Kasper. The Cubs special will feature one-on-one interviews with Cubs pitchers Jeff Samardzija, Sean Marshall, Kevin Gregg and Neal Cotts, along with additional comments from Cubs manager Lou Piniella and Cubs vice president/general manager Jim Hendry.








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#1 Re: A Random Walk before Pitchers and Catchers Report
And here I always felt that the usage of the derisive term "A - Fraud" was over - the - top nasty. Not any longer.
#2 Re: A Random Walk before Pitchers and Catchers Report
I can't take credit for it, but in another article someone commented "A-Roid". Think that might stick.
#3 Re: A Random Walk before Pitchers and Catchers Report
The "What Happens in Wrigley, Stays in Wrigley" ad is stupid.
And the "Blueprint for Heaven's Ballpark" sentiment is great. Lou and Theriot? Really? Stupid.
#4 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
I gotta disagree about Plesac. I found him to be rather dry, myself.
If Holly's even moderately as good of a broadcaster as he was a player, then he'll be awfully darned mediocre in the broadcast booth. I'll look forward to that.
#5 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Wes, if Holly doesn't work out, we can just whack him in the shin.
Here is the direct link to the Hollandsworth interview by Waddle/Silverman. It's the last third of the show (Stone is the first third).
http://query-origin.andohs.net/8000A6/content-root...
#6 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Did Rich Hill do the whole interview as Kip?
#7 Re: Steve Stone who typically is critical of the Cubs (this time
For a guy who openly wants to be a GM, Stone sure comes across as a FAN.
Now, I don't like losing DeRosa. For me, he was the heart of the team last year. And, in the best of all possible worlds I would have kept Kerry Wood and Hank White as well. But Hendry made these moves because he was trying to rebalance the team while operating within a budget and contract restraints. And in that context they make sense.
#8 I smell a Photoshoppers dream
with those Cubs ads...
Wrigley Field, Home of
"Bleacher Beer Goggles" (picture of a dude with a visor and a fat chick)
"Cubbery" (picture of ball hitting Aramis in head and Alex Gonzalez error"
and so on...
#9 thanks for the update
Dr. Hecht....
#14 Re: thanks for the update
Welcome Rob. It was fun since I had the morning off, being in full baseball mode listening to all those audio links/XM 175/Bruce Levine's ghost show.
XM's been in full A-Fraud mode all day...but all the shows tend to blurr except for Hacksaw which has sort of been growing on me. Ed Randall...pass/zzzzzzzzz.
#21 Re: thanks for the update
Hacksaw use to be on local LA radio, very smooth, nothing special though...
I hope they got rid of Charlie Steiner for good, although replacing him with Joel Sherman is about the same. The only show I really like is the fantasy guy that came on during the season from about 9-10am PST.
#10 About A-Fraud
via Rotoworld...
SI's Selena Roberts said that she would name no other players from the list of 104 major leaguers who tested positive for steroids in 2003.
Roberts said she learned of Alex Rodriguez's inclusion on the list while working on a profile of the slugger. She also stated that she traveled to Miami on Thursday to mean with Rodriguez and give him a chance to refute the story. A-Rod, though, isn't talking about the story.
it's a little unclear if she actually knows other names, but if she does, well that's bullshit, she's just going sell out the biggest name to sell some magazines...that's crap.
#12 Re: About A-Fraud
I agree that it's a bunch of baloney, so to say, but I gotta reckon that's just about the only way we're ever going to get any of these names to come public.
At this point, I'm still not sure exactly how much it matters. Joe the Baseball Fan already knows that just about everybody did steroids in the last 20 years. Are the names REALLY that important to people? I guess that's an honest question that folks can answer if they like. I'm just curious, I reckon. Do you really care who they can prove did it and who didn't?
On the other hand, the media sure cares, and they're sure going to fork over serious cash for actual names, so we're all going to find out either way, I suppose.
#17 Re: About A-Fraud
I'd be interested to know who didn't use PEDs--I'd like to give guys their due credit for their own performance as well as their integrity. But the tests don't tell you who didn't use PEDs. They can tell you that at the time of a test a guy wasn't using a PED for which MLB tested,but they can't show that a guy didn't use HGH, for example.
I do still think that we can be a little angry at A-Rod and others for standing idly by while teammates (Giambi) are forced to apologize and act contrite and keep their mouths shut about everyone else.
I still think that Canseco ends up looking like the asshole of the era, though, with Bonds and A-Rod well behind him. Well, the owners and Selig are really the assholes of the era.
#25 Re: About A-Fraud
How would she come across this info researching a profile (aka a puff piece)? Writting a postive story on someone doesnt require that deep of investigative reporting. My bet is her main source is a PI on C-Rod's payroll who found her.
#11 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Ray Durham for the bench is an excellent idea. He can still hit quite nicely, thanks. As for the 3B thing, didn't Fontenot play some 3B for the I-Cubs? Hard to believe between Miles, Fontenot and Durham they couldn't be satisfied with someone to play roughly a dozen games at 3B for the season. I mean hell, the Cubs seem perfectly happy to have GABOR FREAKIN BAKO start two dozen games, so what's wrong with Durham for one dozen?
Adam Dunn in Houston would be bad news for us, please sign with Arizona, dude. Sure, Houston has no pitching, but they'd generate so much offense from their big 4 they wouldn't NEED much pitching to be a .500-team and a pain-in-the-ass.
Finally, if anyone thinks Sosa and Prior aren't on that list of 104 names that SI has, they're idiots. Wouldn't be suprised to see Alou and Wood in there either. 104/30 = about 3.5 guys per team, on average.
#13 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
If Dunn signs with Houston, I'm opening the line on "Number of Geovany Soto inside the park home runs at the Juicebox" at 1.5.
#15 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Regarding the list of 104. Either the owners are stupid (probably) or the MLBPA in trying to protect it's players was stupid or guilty by doing so because the steroid helped escalate salaries like A-Rod to incredible heights. I'm certainly not a lawyer and it might have escalated identically anyway but I wonder if any of these players on the list could be sued by their respective clubs for misrepresenting themselves. Maybe a class action suit against the mlbpa? Most of these contracts have termination for cause paragraphs. Documenting Illegal drug use is usually considered grounds for "cause". Sorry, just ranting but it's financial impact might be greater than just cheating historical baseball records with PEDS.
#16 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
The fact that there even is a list means that the owners have violated the CBA. Right now I'm more worried about having baseball in 2009 than if Moist Alou was on roids.
#23 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
It just doesn't make any sense. The lab shouldn't even have had the player's names, they should have just had a list of numbers. If all they wanted was a % of players using a banned substance, what is the point of attaching names to the tests?
#29 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
obviously I don't know of the procedures that were agreed upon or if any actually were, but it would seem some master list would need to have been kept to assure that every player that was tested was suppose to be tested and in case MLBPA or someone decided to challenge the final findings.
Of course that list probably should have been destroyed after 2004.
#33 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
You have one master list to make sure everyone's samples were taken and submitted. There's no need to link that list to anything at the lab itself, though. Likewise there's no need to keep a list of players names with positive results around for five+ years.
#37 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Likewise there's no need to keep a list of players names with positive results around for five+ years.
I think I said that. Plus comment #35 seems to be the missing link.
#30 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Not go to all conspiracy theory on you here, but it sounds to me like they weren't after just the percentage.
#34 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Exactly. A bunch of has-been's and never-were's using PEDs is obviously not as troublesome as big name players. MLB needed to know who was using.
#18 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Neal just might be right on 2009...although it's gonna make alot of lawyers happy if that happens.
mlb's statement on the SI/A-Rod report:
"Any allegation of tipping that took place under prior iterations of the program is of grave concern to Major League Baseball, as such behavior would constitute a serious breach of our agreement.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb...
#22 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
so the judge needs to make sure that never gets out...
on the other hand, I smell a lawsuit by Arod or the union against MLBPA for loss of endorsements and such...
and I think that reporter is a hack...you either cough up everyone you know and stick by your sources or don't mention anyone by name.
#24 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
I am thinking it's possible that these people have allegedly 'seen the list' but not actually have it in their possession, so maybe Arod is the only name that came up more than once, due to his fame.
#26 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
the article said the 4 sources were familiar with the government evidence, I can't imagine they just saw one name and this reporter only knew of one name.
I'll happily mea culpa if that turns out wrong, but it sure doesn't sound like it from that article linked from Rotoworld. Reporter said she's not giving up any names because they may come out anyway in the California court case.
#31 Re: A Random Walk before Cubs Pitchers and Catchers Report
Roberts was among the media brigrade slandering the Duke Lacrosse players:
http://www.timeswatch.org/articles/2007/2007032611...
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