Is Jake Peavy Chicago-bound, But to the Other Side of Chicago?

The San Diego Union-Tribune is reporting that the White Sox, not our Cubs, are closing in on acquiring the Padres ace.

The sickening details are here.

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Submitted by Cubnut on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 7:50am
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Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 7:57am

Unless Jake Peavy can drive in some serious runs, I don't think he'll be a huge help to the Cubs.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 8:24am

Sounds like the deal is done, waiting for Peavy to waive NTC. I'm not too heartbroken, although the Cubs rotation with Peavy would have been ridiculous good.

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 8:18am

Can't imagine Peavy waving ntc to go to Sox where the ball flies out easier then Wrigley and to team that will not be able to build around him because they are slashing pay roll.

That said as long as he does not end up on the Brewers..

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 8:26am

Yes, but Chicago has great weather forgiving fans Ditka's Restaurant.

In all seriousness, if the Pads ask him to waive his NTC, he will.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 8:37am

So why didn't they just keep Javier? They already had him and he was roughly as good as Peavy. Did Javier cost a lot more?

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 8:43am

I think he was making $ 10 million.
Was inconsistent, especially in "big games" which put him in Ozzie's dog house.

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:47pm

[Peavy] was roughly as good as Peavy

Huh?

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 4:07pm

Uh...think he was saying Vazquez is/was as good as Peavy.

Whether he is or not is another topic.

Submitted by Sweet Lou
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 8:50am

Peavy may not end up with the Brewers, but Derosa might. The Brewers need a second basemen and Cleveland is apparently fielding offers for him.

I'd like to see the Cubs trade Jake Fox and/or Aaron Miles to Cleveland for Derosa. I know there are money/contract issues, but Hendry can figure it out.

Submitted by mannytrillo
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:36am

If Hendry was going to figure it out it would have been before he traded him this offseason.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:03am

i'd really like to see fontenot moved back to 2nd.

no, i don't think him playing 3rd is causing his bat to slump or blah blah blah...however, i do think he's an adequate 2nd baseman who plays an inadequate 3rd base.

miles/scales/freel/fontenot pretty much have to play 2nd or 3rd...scales isn't very good anywhere and freel wasn't much of a 2nd baseman even in his "prime." miles plays a better 3rd, imo. miles is the most fluid at 2nd, but i'd still rather have fontenot at 2nd when they both play.

and yes, i still like fontenot's bat and think he can pull full time duty in the bigs.

Submitted by Dusty Baylor
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:04am

Ok. I'm not saying the Cubs' system is teeming with prospects...far from it.

But who are the Sox supposed to be trading for Peavy? Besides Beckham?

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:11am

clayton richard's name is being thrown around in rumors. he's one of those OMFG LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS guys, but he's pretty much a boring throwing lefty who leaves a lot of fat pitches in the zone.

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:07am

Olney said on ESPN News today that names being "bandied" about are Poreda, Beckham and Richard. Also suspects that he would force the Sox to pick up that $22 million option in 2013 (2014?).

Well, if he goes at least the Cubs don't face him Friday.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:24am

clayton richard is the wsox "new lance broadway"...

people look at his numbers recently and his IP/HR totals in the minors and wet themselves.

if they'd look closer they'd find out he's feasting pretty much solely on a nice sinker coming from a tall lefty. they'd also see him leaving more than a few "mistakes" over the plate that minor league kids just aren't seeing well, but a major league hitter can kill. his sinker just isn't THAT deceptive, though it's a good one.

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:26am

"Also suspects that he would force the Sox to pick up that $22 million option in 2013 (2014"

And if that has to be run by Reinsdorf I'm willing to bet no deal.

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:31am

Gammons says it's a 4 for 1 deal, and will NOT include Beckham. Williams spoke with Scott Linebrink about Peavy last night and got glowing reviews. The deal supposedly is waiting only on Peavy now, which I would guess means the contract situation is ironed out, one way or the other. I agree though, that many years is completely anomalous to Reinsdorf, much less the dollar figure.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 1:05pm

Wasn't Beckham drafted last year, don't think they could trade him until June anyway...or is one year after he signs?

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 2:47pm

Gammons said if it was Beckham he'd be a player to be named, but that there is none in the trade. He says four pitchers including Richard and Poreda.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:29am

Couple young pitchers. Lillibridge, maybe. Not sure, though, the thought of the White Sox farm system makes me sleepy.

It's a recession trade.

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:47am

The meathead Score morning guys did not think the Sox should trade Alexi Rameriez for Peavey.

Stick to Bears'special team analysis guys.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:56am

"It really is Jay Cutleresque..."

*groan*

Submitted by mannytrillo
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 9:35am

If Z is going to come back and be healthy, this team does not need starting pitching right now. They need relief help and a bat.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:02am

In hindsight, Brian Roberts fits into this team pretty well. *sadface*

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:33am

What does that even mean? Of course this team needs starting pitching; if the offense is going to continue to be inconsistent, the starting pitching becomes even more important.

Submitted by mannytrillo
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:41am

It doesn't matter how good your starting pitching is, if you score 0 or 1 run in a game you aren't going to win very many.

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:46am

Seems to me if you give up 6 runs a game, you have an even smaller chance of winning. At least with good starting pitching, you can shut the other team down and sneak out a few 1-0, 2-1 wins.

Submitted by mannytrillo
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:04pm

At least with good starting pitching, you can shut the other team down and sneak out a few 1-0, 2-1 wins.

Hasn't seemed to work well the past couple days.

Cubs rankings:
Starting pitching - 4th in NL
Relief Pitching - 15th in NL
Hitting - 10th in the NL

Thus why we need relief help and a bat.

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:08pm

Could the Cubs use Peavy? Heck yeah, he'd strengthen the bullpen just by pushing Marshall there. But I think Manny and others are trying to say it's not the biggest need they have, not that the Cubs don't need (or want) Peavy.

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:32pm

Two games. Redefines small sample size.

Obviously there are areas to improve, but to say the Cubs don't need good starting pitching isn't accurate.

Submitted by DJH
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:02am

Sox can have Peavy...Can we have Adrien Gonzalez? Please?

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:07am

What do we need Gonzalez for? Our first basemen is hitting .314 .372 .557 ... Oh, wait, he's on the bench.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:18am

D Lee is 7-15 in the last week. Even the outs he's making have been crushed. Lee is the better player. Everyone in the world knows it except the 90% of Cub fans who prefer Hoffpauir. *sigh*

Not that I don't like Hoffpauir, I really do. But if you have D Lee, he's the starting first baseman.

... in my humble opinion.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:20am

Either way, I agree 100%, we'd have trouble finding a place to put Adrian Gonzalez.

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:29am

Wow, I wouldn't have any trouble playing Gonzalez in front of Lee any day of the week. He's the best bat no one has ever heard of.

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:42am

He took the two homers(I saw)last week to left field. For a lefthander to play at Wrigley that would be awesome, just look what it did for Edmonds last year.

Gonzalez would hit 50 a year if he played for Cubs.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:24am

Lee has been squaring up on the ball pretty well. He hasn't 'crushed' anything in three years now. If Piniella would grow a pair, they would be in at least a 50-50 platoon.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 1:26pm

Given the remarkable affection that Cub fans have for many veteran Cubs, and how much they hate to see them traded, it's not surprising . . . that the Cubs haven't been to a world series in over sixty years.

Wait, that wasn't what I meant to say.

Given the remarkable affection that Cub fans have for many veteran Cubs, and how much they hate to see them traded, it's not surprising that Hendry didn't trade Derrek Lee last winter or the winter before.

But Lee is not only keeping Hoffpauir on the bench, he's keeping Jake Fox in Iowa.

One little cherry-picked data point.

The Cubs are trying to score a few runs on the road this week.

In away games this year, Lee has no home runs and two doubles.

Thirteen of Fox's seventeen homers have come on the road. He also has ten doubles and a triple away from home.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 1:43pm

yeesh...dlee isn't that bad...especially to make room for jake fox.

hell, i'd take dlee over hoffpower everyday right now, though an arguement could be made for either. i still think hoff's D is overrated even if comparing his D to dlee is a pretty high standard.

Submitted by Andrew
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:28am

Well, fuck.

It figures Kenny Williams would pull something like this off. I still think Peavy would have been sweet to have, and I still think a true ace like Halladay would both stud-ify the rotation and shore up the pen a bit, but I agree that our needs now are relief pitching and a bat (or better production from the bats we have). The same fucking needs we have every year.

At least it's not the Brewers or the Cardinals.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:37am

here's some awesome for you guys...

http://illusioncontest.neuralcorrelate.com/2009/th...

Submitted by Andrew
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:40am

And, get this, apparently Scott Eyre is broke.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 10:55am

mets enter the dero chase for those keeping track of that dead horse.

is it too late to give kerry wood 10m a year?

Submitted by Chifan
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 11:45am

Peavy deal now "unlikely":

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/21...

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 11:47am

Aren't Axelrod and Hendry on really good terms, don't they "go back" years?

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:51pm

That's a really odd article. Shouldn't the Padres ask Peavy if he'd go to the White Sox BEFORE they waste time trying to deal him there?

On the other hand, if the Pods can trade Peavy why isn't Hendry trying to peddle Depleted Lee?

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 11:50am

... trading Peavy and keeping Gonzalez is like "splitting the baby", that they might not win 170 games over the life of the Peavy contract without him. Not that they are in a good position to do so, but if Peavy left, I'd love for the Cubs to go balls out after Gonzalez.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:18pm

You know, in my opinion, it's really rude for the Sox & Padres organizations to make this thing so public. Now everyone is waiting on Peavy and everyone knows if the deal doesn't go through it will be his "fault". It's not very professional, imo.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 2:16pm

I think I agree with you on that. And the more we hear about Peavy I can't help but think he's baseball's Brett Favre. He doesn't know what he wants to do, but he wants to keep every option open for the future. Screw him.

Submitted by Andrew
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 2:38pm

Uh, no. Baseball's version of Favre was Roger Clemens, holding the entire MLB hostage over whether he'd decide to sign with someone in, you know, June or July. Thank God that's over with.

Peavy signed a contract that he shouldn't have two years ago with assurances from the Padres' higher ups that they were going to be competitive. Instead, they decided to rebuild and he's been pretty calm and collected throughout despite being in an obviously bad situation. The whole Cubs fiasco in the offseason wasn't his fault, in my eyes -- he didn't break the story and I think he reacted genuinely when he thought a deal was in place.

And it Zell/Kenney or Towers who killed the deal, not Peavy.

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 1:12pm

watched a Beverly Hillbillys episode and heard Granny Clampett raving about Josh Vittles

oh, nevermind...

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 1:37pm

Lee in May:

.308 AVG, .386 OBP, .590 SLG, 3 HRs in 39 ABs.

Maybe we should wait and see what June holds before we bury him for his bad April.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 2:14pm

The Brewers have made a trade, waiting to hear what it is.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/45708477.html

UPDATE: it appears to be Tony Gwynn Jr. to San Diego for Jody Gerut.

http://www.619sports.net/padres

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 2:30pm

what the hell does SD want with gwynn jr of all people.

gerut is expendable, but bleh...

well, besides the obvious...

Submitted by SJS
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 2:52pm

Bringing in a guy who's dad was a great player for them might give the SD beat writers something positive to write about. Gwynn Sr. is still in the area, so why not give it a shot knowing that Jr will probably get some free hitting advice.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:06pm

White Sox are now losing 16-0.

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:23pm

WSox losing 20-0 to arch rival Twins. Peavy hopefully is watching on the mlb package.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:32pm

On the plus side, I'm sure Ozzie will have something entertaining to say after the game.

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:28pm

...apparently they tried to put Bartolo Colon, Lance Broadway and Jimmy Goble in the trade this afternoon too, but San Diego said um, no.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:34pm

LOL @ W Sox

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:52pm

Anyone listening to Hawk during this game?

Can imagine Stoney is pouring gasoline on himself right about now.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 3:56pm

I've got it on, they did say at least once that this isn't fun. Hawk said, "it's a beautiful day at the ballpark in every regard but the score."

They're doing a lot of what Pat and Ron do in blowouts, talk about old time baseball and non-baseball stuff.

BTW, Crede made a very nice, Willie Mays style over the shoulder catch on a popup by Pierzynski.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 6:44pm

Peavy officially said no to the deal.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/spor...

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 6:51pm

I'd recommend not losing by 19 on the day you're trying to get a guy to waive his NTC and looking to join a winner.

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