TCR: No Good Will Come of This

Marmol to Close

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:14pm

Gordon Wittenmyer's tweets that the Cubs will go with Carlos Marmol as closer...as expected. It's like choosing your death by slowing draining the blood out of your body versus stepping on a landmine. Good luck with that Cubs...

Ryan Theriot is back tonight....and the great scrap-off of '09 can commence between him and David Eckstein, who scrapped out a the tying run with that walk in the 9th. Theriot, Bradley, Lee, Ramirez, Fukudome, Soriano, Baker, Soto and Dempster go for the Cubs.

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#1 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubster on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 6:52pm.

also per Wittenmeyer:

Believe it or not: Lou got a jaywalking warning ticket in SD today. Been that kind of summer.

http://twitter.com/cst_cubs/

#2 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:00pm.

what's a jaywalking warning ticket? if we catch you jaywalking next time, we'll give a real ticket?

#3 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:04pm.

‘‘They believe in me, and I believe in myself, too,’’ Marmol said. ‘‘I think that’s the reason he made the decision.’’

also...you happen to be the tallest midget in the bullpen

#4 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubster on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:11pm.

...We'll give a real ticket?
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Here's a real ticket:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/white-sox...

#5 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by msiak on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:32pm.

I would rather a guy who's unhittable (be it strikeouts or walks) than a guy who gently places the ball on a tee, with the laces out.

#6 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:39pm.

Lois Einhorn or Ray Finkle?

#8 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:53pm.

I'd rather take a bullet to the head than have my parachute fail, but you know same result.

some #'s:

Marmol 4 BLSV, 4 SV, 27 HOLDS, 2 Losses - of course his blown saves come earlier in the game and the team can still recover, on the flipside he can often be called in tougher situations.

1 Blown Save turned into a win for the team, another was an unearned run on his own error and the Cubs lost in 10 innings to Florida, after the Cubs came back with 3 in the 7th against the Cards early in the season, he gave up a run in the 8th for his first loss, 3rd BLSV was giving up an inherited run in a game the Cubs came back to win in extras, 4th BLSV vs. White Sox coughing up a 1-run lead that the Cubs dropped, lost his 2nd game versus Marlins on that last road trip, could have had a loss last week versus Phillies, but Cubs rallied in 9th to tie.

Gregg 6 BLSV, 23 SV, 0 HOLDS, 5 Losses, 4 of those Blown Saves ended up to be Gregg losses as well, 1 turned into an extra inning loss and one into a win (a week or so versus Marlins)

#9 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:06pm.

The upside of Marmol to closer is this. He might very well revert to 07-08 form with a lighter 1 inning defined workload. Lou likely hasn't done him any favors with his 3 year workload. Might as well find out now!

#7 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by John Beasley on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:47pm.

Smoltz considering St. Louis:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4408342

#10 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubster on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:14pm.

Marmol in the 9th...maybe it's good for his confidence, might actually force him to throw more strikes and a few more fastballs

(I know, it's wishful thinking)

#11 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubster on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:33pm.

non-news flash: cubs leave em loaded

#12 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by JoePepitone on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:38pm.

Repeat as needed (PRN).

#13 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by msiak on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 8:44pm.

Soriano: 16 million
Gregg: 4.2 million
Bradley: 7 million

The guy who really needs to go is Jim Hendry for Bushian investments.

The answer is: Finkle is Einhorn, Einhorn is Finkle

#14 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by VirginiaPhil on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 9:10pm.

Peoria 14-1 over Quad Cities, 21st win in 26 games, big blows struck by Perez, Burke and Lake.

Tennessee 2-1 over Chattanooga on walkoff homer by Colvin.

#15 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by The E-Man on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 9:21pm.

So are we talking a West Coast Sweep?

Or, will the Cubs manage 1 or 2 games?

Rob G are you going to a Dodger's game?

#16 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 9:30pm.

just Saturday at the moment, things could change though...

#17 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubster on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 9:33pm.

intentional walk to fukudome to pitch to soriano with a runner at 2nd

...my how the $18M has fallen

#18 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubster on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 9:34pm.

and he hits a rocket (actually len called it a floater) for an rbi single...and his 1500 career hit

and a tie game

#19 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:18pm.

more like jammed floater over the shortstop...hey, it's something...

Demp serves up go-ahead HR the following half inning

#20 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:41pm.

Kyle Banks inside-the-park HR

(2009 season fades to black)

#21 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:47pm.

len sounds tired...bob sounds disgusted when he can bother to comment.

#23 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by msiak on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:58pm.

ladies and gentlemen. the titanic is sinking and will eventually be completely submerged. time to regroup and make some changes for next year. maybe we should get ryno to manage? god, would that be a fresh breath of air

#24 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:03pm.

if ryno can play middle IF and hit...or throw some decent pen...he might be useful.

if any change this offseason involves just changing what elderly fat man is in charge then *puke*

minimum...i wanna see a new middle IF option and a solid option to back up guzman/marmol in the pen (or two...)

i don't even want to get into this whole world "let's trade milton/soriano" or etc, really...there's just so much that could or could not happen there.

#22 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by crunch on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 10:53pm.

0-5 this year at petco park...that's just odd.

#25 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubnut on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:03pm.

Story of the 2009-10 off-season:

How much of Soriano's contract the Cubs will have to eat in order to find a taker for him.

#26 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by The E-Man on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:20pm.

My guess is he will revert closer to his career numbers. Not this bad. Not 40-40 good.

I just want him to do it somewhere else.

there are just plenty of shitty contracts to go around.

My god - it is a deal signed with the Devil himself.

Last year was the "Shot".

#29 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by VirginiaPhil on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 6:49am.

I would say that right now Soriano (.243/.303/.425) is worth about half of what Adam Dunn (.282/.414/.574) is making, plus he's four years older and seems to be fading fast. In any trade, the Cubs would be on the hook for about $70 of the $90 million--might as well eat the whole thing and get rid of him today. Soriano's toxic contract should have been a disputed item in the sale of the team, and I don't know why it wouldn't have been. Who in his right mind would take over that contract without getting concessions from Zell for it?

I'm embarrassed to root for a team where a Derrek Lee--never mind the younger players working for the minimum--has to watch a mutt like Soriano ride the elevator to the upper floor (where the suites are located) of every road hotel.

I hate those two corner-outfield free agent mutts, which is why I spend more time following Tennessee and Peoria these days than the Cubs.

#27 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by The E-Man on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:22pm.

My prediction should pan out now from earlier.

I'm expecting a 2-7 Road trip to the West.

And, you can bet, I will be getting a Playoff Invoice soon.

#28 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubnut on Tue, 08/18/2009 - 11:41pm.

2-7? I wish I had your optimism.

#30 Re: Marmol to Close

Submitted by Cubster on Wed, 08/19/2009 - 6:50pm.

Tennessee and Peoria these days than the Cubs.
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the above teams are definitely more talented too.

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