Pennant Fever

Not for the major league team, but some of the lil' Cubs are making a push for minor league post-season glory.

AAA - Iowa Cubs

There are four divisions in the 16-team PCL and they play a full season, as opposed to some lower levels splitting their season into halves. The Iowa Cubs are making a bid for a second straight playoff appearance and trail the Memphis Redbirds (St. Louis Cardinals affiliate) by two games and the Nashville Sound (Brewers) by a game and a half as of this writing. Iowa will have 20 games to close the gap, 14 of them at home. The season ends on September 7th, so they'll have to deal with September call-ups raiding the roster. Don't be surprised if the Cubs make some minor league free agent signings to help them out, plus some Double A promotions.

AA: Tennessee Smokies

No surprise that a team with many of the 2008 Florida State League Champions would be doing well as a team at the next level. The Tennessee Smokies are tied with the West Tennessee Diamond Jaxx (Mariners) atop the North Division thanks to a 5-game winning streak. There are 17 games left in the season and they finish with a 5-game set at West Tennessee.

Hi-A: Daytona Cubs

They finished the first half in second place, but 7.5 games back in their division. The second half has been unkind though and it doesn't look like a two-peat is going to happen as they're in last place, 14.5 out.

A - Peoria Chiefs

It was a strong 38-31 first half for the Chiefs, but that was only good for third place. They second half has gone even better though and they sit at 31-20 with a 3.5 game lead in the division. Carlos Zambrano pitches for them tonight in a rehab outing, probably the closest he'll get to post-season fever. The Chiefs have 18 games left on the year.

Lo-A: Boise

The good news is that Boise is in second place...the bad news is they're 7 games back and 4 games under .500. 

Some other Cubs-related notes after the jump...

  - The sale of the Cubs to the Ricketts has now been classified as "imminent". In a couple of days, it should move to "a sure thing", and by next week, "just need to cross the t's and dot the i's" and by the end of the season we may reach, "there's nothing stopping it now".

- Speaking of Z's rehab start, Bruce Miles is there instead of L.A., and says Z took batting practice and knocked 6 out of the park. Way to tone it down, Z!

- The rain-out on Sunday will be made up as part of a day-night doubleheader on September 30th. If you had tickets for Sunday, they'll be good for the day game.

- The Cubs are in my neck of the woods, but with my new work schedule, I'll actually not be able to watch them. Blackout rules will keep them off my computer screen, but I am going to the game Saturday and may try to go on Sunday depending on how the series is going.

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Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 6:42pm

Wittenmeyer tweets: Same lineup as Wed: riot, milt, lee, rami, fuky, sori, baker, hill, gorz.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 6:46pm

is soto hurt/sore?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 6:57pm

is soto hurt/sore/high?

/fixed

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 8:13pm

is soto hurt/sore/high?/fat!

/esthered

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 7:20pm

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/8/20/996383/th...

apparently someone got offended by the wording of the original plaque and they changed it.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/26065/westsidegr...

Submitted by Brick
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 7:49pm

A century from now, the plaque where Wrigley now stands will tell us all the origin of the phrase "albatross in left field."

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 8:01pm

the people who are offended by the change are even better. hehe.

OMG...THEY RE-WROTE HISTORY! POLITICAL CORRECTEDNESSEDNESS!#!#!! THEY WANT TO PULL THE PLUG ON GRANDMA! ...wait, strike that last one.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 8:11pm

billy wagner's first 2 pitches were both 94mph...as advertised.

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 8:18pm

more on wagner in 8th vs Bravos...

K, F9, K

and fastballs at 94-95 according to mlb gameday

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 8:37pm

Not the worst idea in the world to make a trade for Wagner and pick up his $8M option, TJ surgery is hardly a death sentence...and I think he's a Type A free agent too. Sure not gonna get anything from Gregg being a Type A free agent, better shot of Wagner getting a deal somewhere else...

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 9:05pm

Z's rehab went well in Peoria... pitched 5 scoreless innings, 5 K's 4 Hits, 0 BB, 76 pitches

unfortunately he gets a no decision...sounds familiar.

http://peoria.chiefs.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp...

Submitted by The E-Man
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 9:45pm

Thanks for the "Playoff Hunt" Info!

Brendan Ryan hits a GS for the Cards.

Guess they have no problem with Petco.

When Brendan Ryan is hitting Grand Slams - it is your year.

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 10:15pm

and they leave the bases loaded with K's from Soriano and Baker

...R Martin was setting up in the on first base deck circle against Soriano. I think Soriano needs lasik eye surgery.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 11:08pm

Or a Xanax. Dude needs to calm down at the dish.

Submitted by jacos
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 8:15am

Only 5 more years (at $18 mill per) of IBB's to get to our premiere hitter to look like an idiot on 3 pitch strike outs.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 11:12pm

my f'n brain is melting.

wow...guzman. wow...

you've had an injury...you've experienced the wonderful pen...welcome to the cubs Gorz.

Submitted by Jeff_Pico
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:48am

Man August sucks! And thats an understatement. I mean I didn't expect great things from this team but they are looking at double digits out of the division.

I know the buck has to stop at Hendry...BUT this team is littered with underperformance.

Submitted by artskoe
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:45am

Hungry manager, anyone?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 3:52am

didn't get to follow the game, but Lou took Gorzelanny out after 80+ pitches to pinch-hit with Aaron Miles?

has anyone checked if lou still has a pulse or are rothschild and trammell running the team in a "weekend at bernie's" kind of way?

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 8:24am

The image of Lou's hand waving up and down at the command of Trammel will now be etched in my mind forever.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 4:09am

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/17274...

Bradley is apparently the 2nd worst Cubs FA signing since 2000, Soriano is the 5th worst and 5th best...

No one knows logic like Wittenmyer

Submitted by Pell Mell
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 7:00am

This has to go into Brain-Cell-Killing Articles. The Bradley part was either written on April 30 or is purposely, offensively stupid, or both. Even the valid criticisms are wrong: Neifi as "symbol of the Cubs' dysfunction in 2006," Miles as having more time to make his deal "look good."

Attention doofus: Your opinion of Neifi's symbolic value is not what matters. What matters is that he was one of the worst hitters of ALL TIME. Further, the only way Miles could ever make that deal look good would be if he literally morphed into Chase Utley. Finally, please review your job description and tell me where "trump up season-long feud with player via race-baiting, and/or attempt to run said player out of town" appears.

Submitted by OakLawnGuy
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 9:28am

Question about minor league development. How much sway does a Tim Wilken have in minor league instruction? Would someone in his position need to work closely enough with the organization to draft guys with the right tools/makeup/ceiling to match the instructors that the Cubs have? I've always felt that the guy picking the players has to be strong, but if you don't have a solid instructional program and the people to man it, you'll end up with Pattersons who have the tools and can't play the friggin game.

Not saying the Cubs have been completely unsuccessful in bringing guys to the 25 man who can play, but most of them seemed to have fundamental holes and some seem never to have paid attention in the minors.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:04am

Ricketts is expected to sign a "definitive agreement" to buy the team within days. Then it still needs the approval of bankruptcy court, then MLB approval. We're still talking weeks at the earliest.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-fri-cub...

On a related note, Chipper Jones is killing Mexicans and dumping their bodies on his Texas ranch...

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/115...

Submitted by crunch
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:46am

and the chipper article contains yet another outraged "remember when we used to be able to say..." PC-thugism victim whining comment.

people get bent out of shape about the weirdest crap...especially when it gets in the way of their to-the-point hate.

if these people just had a thesaurus or a bigger vocabulary it might not be so frustrating.

Submitted by Ryno
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:57am

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Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:02pm

Black pots shouldn't throw stones.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:13pm

In this case the deceased is believed to be a citizen of Mexico, so it's correct to call him a Mexican. If the guy in the comments was calling him a slang word, then he's an idiot.

I once wrote an article for my college newspaper about a trip our school chaplain took to South Africa, and I referred to the people as South Africans and our editor tried to change it to African Americans.

Submitted by BobbyD
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:07pm

Can we get Aaron Miles to visit Chipper's ranch?

Submitted by Ryno
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:21pm

LOL

+1

Submitted by Romero
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:25pm

+ 2

Submitted by navigator
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 2:01pm

It's not like that Mexican illegal just wandered in. Double Dime game ranch is 9,000 acres surrounded by high fencing.

And lots of water according to their website:

With plentiful water and varied types of vegetation and terrain, this acreage has an excellent carrying capacity and produces high quality game of all types.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 2:51pm

So Chipper's 'ranch' is one of those shitty slaughterhouse safari's? Come here and shoot an endangered species that's fenced in. That's real classy.

Perhaps someone was hunting the most dangerous game of all...man!

Submitted by T-Dubs
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 4:55pm

Has Larry Walker been hanging out on Chipper's ranch?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1785220

Submitted by jacos
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:28am

Z took bp before game yeterday. By the way the game had a Dh.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:19pm

A day later, Boise is 3 under .500, having won 10 of 13.

They started the year 3-12 while they waited for draftees to trickle in. Then they lost Jackson and LeMahieu quickly to Peoria.

Boise has some talent at the top of the order: Lee, Watkins, Valdez. They also have a pitcher with a great name--Trey McNutt--who seems to be pretty decent.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:32pm

LeMahieu was so good at Boise, that they didn't even let him play.

I think the turnaround has mostly been due to the pitching there. If memory serves the hitters were going pretty good from day 1.

That being said, high A and AA championships interest me. The rest of the stuff is so far from the majors that it's hard to apply relevance. Though I certainly vote for all the minor league teams to win titles, at least the pitchers will have gaudy W-L records to point to.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:39pm

Yeah, you're right, LeMahieu was never there. That's unusual, not getting your ticket punched at Boise.

As for "hitters going pretty good from day 1," that applies only to the top-of-the-order guys I mentioned. Justin Bour and Robert Wagner came along later (mid and late July) and added some pop in the middle of the order, which had been lacking.

I'm interested in the lower minors because it's what feeds the upper teams. Your organization is as good as the weakest team, in a sense, because that weakness will propogate upward. You need a swarm of talented players, like the Cubs have started to develop in the middle-infield positions.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 3:44pm

I didn't say I wasn't interested, I just am not very interested in them winning pennants. I would probably take 1 AA title over 4 short season and low A pennants when it comes to producing on the MLB level. It would be a really interesting study, and I am sure someone has done it.

Best minor league team I ever saw.. and I can't even remember what city it was, but I want to say it was Greenvilke, just pounded the Southern League all year long. Mike Kelly and Javy Lopez and maybe Chipper Jones all on the same team, if my hazy memory is correct.

Submitted by springs
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 8:27pm

I agree with you on the AA championship compared to lower levels. As for AAA, I am less interested in Iowa because the Cubs use it for players like So Taguchi and Andres Blanco, rather than prospects.

Submitted by jacos
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:33pm

Sometimes you feel like a McNutt, but mounds don't.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 12:37pm

Two thoughts:

It's weird that the season is over six weeks before the first week in October. As a Cub fan, it's weird that I feel weird being excluded from a playoff race.

Submitted by BobbyD
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:14pm

Agreed - it's weird that the last few years of relative team-to-beat-in-the-Central status have made the previous era of suckitude (except that brief beautiful '84 season - ruined by that MILF-impregnating tree stump forearm douchebag of a cub killer steve fucking midget goddamn milk drinking garvey that is)seem far away. Alas, it appears the Cubs can summon Cubbery like a crack whore gobbles tool.

Submitted by jacos
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:24pm

Well done!

Submitted by Seamhead
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 2:25pm

Agreed. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, but it expresses a courage little seen in this day and age!

Submitted by jacos
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 2:35pm

Cracker croker!

Submitted by Romero
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 1:27pm

D for "Digital"?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 3:23pm

according to Heyman...

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 3:47pm

The teams actually chasing someone. Rangers would be my guess, assuming that Reinsdorf has slapped Williams' hand for the Rios deal. Rays makes a bit of sense, and Marlins have shown in the past that they're not above adding a closer down the stretch.

Submitted by jacos
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 3:48pm

Cardinals?

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 3:51pm

I bought a copy of 2K Sports MLB Front Office Manager to officially celebrate the start of the 2009-10 Cubs off-season. Has anyone played it? Chad would like it, I think Billy Beane is your mentor as a GM....Paul Depodesta did not endorse it, though.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 7:03pm

I didn't really care for that game when I rented it Neal. Just not overly in depth for what it should be IMHO.

Ootp baseball is a much better franchise simulator if you decide to search an alternative. Fwiw

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 4:07pm

Tribune is reporting Ricketts has signed the deal to buy the team. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-chicago...

Submitted by tem99
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 4:08pm

CNBC just announced the same thing.

Submitted by Cubster
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 4:10pm

Kaplan says deal is done.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chica...

The Tribune Company will retain a 5% ownership interest but the Ricketts family will have total control of the operation of the baseball team. The next step will be to place the franchise into Chapter 11 so that the bankruptcy court can approve the transaction. After that step is completed then Major League Baseball's other owners will need to approve the transaction. Both of these steps are considered a formality and the Ricketts family is expected to assume control of the franchise sometime after the World Series is completed...

As for the radio future of the Cubs here is the latest after the agreement was signed today:

"As part of the sale, WGN Radio will remain as the radio play by play home of the Chicago Cubs, and we look forward to our continued partnership with the club for many years to come," said Tom Langmyer, Vice President and General manager of WGN Radio.

Submitted by Cubster
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 4:58pm

Larry Walker still on the dl since 2004? So is the guy he found on the ranch.

Submitted by Cubster
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 5:14pm

Rosenthal says it's Boston who claimed Billy Wagner

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9966794/Source:...'-Wagner-off-waivers

Submitted by The E-Man
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 5:54pm

THAT'S ok Cubster: Gonna be a NEW SHERIFF in town (albeit in November... maybe)!!

Maybe - just MAYBE our new ownership will make US the Boston of the NL?!

Maybe - just perhaps - the CUBS will get the difference makers at the deadline?!

Maybe - possibly - our GM will sign players to better contracts and make wiser decisions instead of believing Aaron Miles, Mike Fontenot, and Andres Blanco = Mark De Rosa?!!!!

- sigh -

Submitted by crunch
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 7:40pm

our current owner gave the team 140m. that's as close to buying a trip to the playoffs as anything. you got 50+m more in payroll than your competitors.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 6:00pm

BTW - Julio Lugo: .319 .367 .528 .895 (81 PA)

The "suckage" continues.

Mike Fontenot: .224 .293 .379 .671

Aaron Miles: .181 .219 .243 .462

Jeff Baker .333 .381 .551 .932 (84 PA)

Well, at least Lugo is keeping pace with one of the three guys we have.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 6:15pm

so your point was the Cubs found someone better than Lugo?

Submitted by carmenfanzone
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 7:41pm

I'm hoping Lou starts Sam Fuld in leftfield tonight to counteract the big ball park theory...

Submitted by Rob G.
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 7:46pm

Lineup vs, LH Wolf: riot, milt, lee, rami, baker, sori, soto, fuld, wells.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 8:14pm

I guess at the start of the season if someone said "Jeff 'Warning Track' Baker is going to be hitting ahead of Soriano and Soto" you would have known the Cubs were fucked.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 7:47pm

So does Ricketts or Zell have to pay this if they lose?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5...

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 10:46pm

liabilities from and insurance standpoint will be covered by the Zell Asshole Estate and its associated DoucheBag affiliates.

Other liabilities, such as Soriano, I assume will be covered by good eye doctor insurance.

Submitted by artskoe
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 10:46pm

Since it was an "act of god" we are assuming Pinella.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:18pm

My guess is a combination of Michael Barrett and Aaron Miles.

Submitted by navigator
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:48pm

As I write this:

Uncle Milty .255 .254
Felix Pie .259

Submitted by crunch
on Fri, 08/21/2009 - 11:53pm

okay.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Sun, 08/23/2009 - 3:31pm

It would have been even better had you wrote this in 1954 when people didn't understand the value of OBP.

Submitted by navigator
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 12:14am

Lou says he's coming back next year.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/17292...

okay

Submitted by Jeff_Pico
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 12:36am

Is it HIS decision? I don't think he's an absolute horrible manager but at this point, I don't see how they can just trot out the same team and the same manager and expect different results.

Dominated by Randy Wolf? Sounds familiar :(

Anyway yes isn't it ironic that the Cubs could probably have a better team with Felix Pie and Casey McGhee in the outfield than Soriano and Bradley? Awful.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 12:16am

how about them Bears? I hear they got a quarterback...

Submitted by artskoe
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 1:06am

In Lovie we trust.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 1:25am

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Submitted by Paul Noce
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 11:09am

Who's running this site, Jim Hendry? :)

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 1:27am

luv rob but he don't know shit about web providers., this from a Tayxun.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 1:30am

LOCK THAT SQL UP!

Sorry, now I'm being mean. Kaint help it. I mooved to Tayxus and my favorIte blog can get eets sheet together but you know whut? We Bears fans gotta dude who can pass in the pocket so who gives a fuck what Rob kin do.

Submitted by Cubster
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 8:47am

Smoltz signing just in time?

Lohse probably to the 15 day dl with a strained groin

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.ns...

Submitted by B Rock
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 9:30am

Just getting on the board after a few days off, but I'm absolutley flabbergasted there's not more then a few posts on the "Miles for Gorz" pinch hit decision.

Not only was it innane because it was Miles with Fuld and Fox avaliable on the bench, but Gorz had retired something like 11 straight.

I know there is a crew on this board who thinks "manager doesn't matter" but ultimately after Lou's lineup on Monday (Esther 7 LOB with a hot Baker on the bench) and pinch hit decision on Thursday I think theres a more then fair argument to be made that Lou's cost us two games this week.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:59am

Just getting on the board after a few days off, but I'm absolutley
flabbergasted there's not more then a few posts on the "Miles for Gorz"
pinch hit decision.

I'm not sure anyone is watching/caring anymore...

Submitted by crunch
on Sun, 08/23/2009 - 1:13am

it's more of a "these managers tend to make a lot of the same weird moves" time after time thing. my main issue is with people making a manager a superstar of a greater good/evil than the team, itself.

i believe the 3-4+million dollar manager is a joke. i also believe there's a lot of undue emphasis put on the lineup jockey. just being a good in-game tactician isn't enough...as davey johnson showed with locker rooms that were pretty rotten. if the guy could manage personalities he'd probably have a job as long as some other hangers-on in the managing racket have.

also, there's not some huge hidden secret of being a great in-game tactician in baseball...this isn't football and there's a pretty limited amount of things you can do in certain situations. that said, personal philosophy can skew people's perception of someone's in-game strategy.

spend 700K-1.5m on a manager...suit him up and put the 1.5-3m saved into the team. life goes on. meh...

Submitted by Tito
on Mon, 08/24/2009 - 9:50am

Really?

Submitted by crunch
on Mon, 08/24/2009 - 8:05pm

i mean...ya think?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 12:55pm

Sorry about the error message, rather epic and considering I haven't changed anything recently, rather confusing...

working on it now but I'm off to the game actually, plus it's the wife's birthday today, so probably won't get to it until tonight.

Once again, apologies to all...

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Sat, 08/22/2009 - 1:15pm

Dude, if you had one of those fancy iPhone's I'm sure Steve Jobs could help you use the force to fix the site while at the game drinking a $13 beer.

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