3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
This is basically a one-line blog entry, but I'm so over all this Bradley drama.
Nick Cafrado over at the Boston Globe is reporting that if Carlos Zambrano is moved, there are only three teams he'd be willing to go...Los Angeles Dodgers, Boston Red Sox and Chicago White Sox. I would say, I don't know how the Angles wouldn't get on that list. If he's willing to to an AL team or Los Angeles, you couldn't find a classier organization than the Angels, so if the Cubs really pursue that course, I'm sure they'll get a few attentive general managers on the phone.
As for Bradley, pardon my over-used metaphor, but it's a disaster of Hindenburg proportions both by the player and management. Good luck trying to move that $21M off the books Jim, unlike Zambrano, I don't think they'll be a lot of attentive gm's on the phone for that call. The only other parallel I can think of is Jose Guillen getting suspended by the Angels near the end of 2004. The Angels did move him to the Nationals in the offseason for Maicer Izturis and Juan Rivera, but Guillen (according to BR.com salaries) only had $3.5M and a $4M 2006 option left on his deal. They also had Jim Bowden as their GM, who made a habit of taking on talented basket cases at a discount.
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#1 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
It's hard not to compare this off-season that's shaping up to the 2005 one. You've got an underperforming team, you've got openly critical broadcast booth and now you've got a move afoot to get rid of the 'bad apples'. At some point Hendry, or his successor, will figure out that winning makes a good clubhouse, not the reverse.
It's hard to say what sort of influence Zambrano has on a clubhouse, he often seems to be having a good time, and luckily when he sucks it only happens at most every five days. Any team that the Cubs try to work out a trade for is going to want to 'buy low' because they know that he has that NTC and erratic play aside he is a bit of a nutcase.
I think this guy just pulled those teams out of his ass. He had to throw Boston in there to make it interesting to his readers. Any team that takes on Zambrano is probably going to be a playoff contender in the NL, which means the deal probably will come back to bite us in the ass, unless we get something really great back for him. I just can't see that happening, because even with the thin free agent class, Hendry won't have a lot of leverage. He's over paid, he's inconsistant, he has trouble staying healthy and he's a danger to other players in the clubhouse. The suitors will just be lining up.
#2 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
I just can't see that happening, because even with the thin free agent class, Hendry won't have a lot of leverage. He's over paid, he's inconsistant, he has trouble staying healthy and he's a danger to other players in the clubhouse. The suitors will just be lining up.
I just came from your MB love fest in the other thread to read this. I thought you was talking about Milton but no it was Zambrano.
You can bring yourself to say that about Zambrano but will defend a guy to the death who has one 500 AB season to his credit.
Clearly your the most insane poster ever in TCR history.
#3 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
I can say the same thing about Bradley, except at least if he's dangerous to other players it's an accident.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that when I correct people's mistakes in their assessment of Bradley as a ball player, the same people use their same warped logic to determine that because I say Bradley can field and get on base, I think he's the greatest ballplayer in the history of the game.
#12 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
And your consistent mistake is that you think you know everything or can be explained by a stat or split. Did you ever play or coach the game? Or spend time in a winning/losing locker room?
The point isn't Bradley`s talent or stats. He's a miserable human being and given a choice it appears no teammate is blocking the door to keep him on the team
This was another of Hendry`s mistakes that could and should get him fired this off season. Lou is an accessory for not managing Bradley among others.
Not every discussion point can be or needs to be explained with a stat or your opinion why every poster is wrong. But go ahead, Neal, thrill us with your literary acumen as you pursue Silent Towel as TCR's most obnoxious poster.
#13 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
You are a joke. I didn't even mention Milton Bradley. Seriously, grow up and go to the mirror store with Milton.
And George, I'll play you one on one in any sport you like.
#18 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Is that near the Jerk Store?
#21 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Heh.
That was sort of stupid. I've played and continue to play sports for over 30 years. However, knowing what you don't know is very important and for any of us here to imagine they've got a true feel for what has gone on in the Cubs clubhouse is a bit absurd. Even the one or two contributors who've played professional baseball probably couldn't accurately explain the dynamic of an MLB clubhouse.
#27 Re: I've played and continue to play sports for over 30 years.
When do you find the time?! You post here non-stop.
#45 Re: I've played and continue to play sports for over 30 ...
I only use the TV to watch sports. Give it a try. You'll be amazed at how much time you've wasted worrying about who's going to be voted off the island or if Ross and Rachael will stay together.
#51 Re: I've played and continue to play sports for over 30 ...
That a boy, Neal. Three things we can always count on you for: reply to every post no matter how inane your response, miss the point of what everyone is trying to tell you, and insult or demean almost everyone you respond to.
You're the joke (which should be intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer - that would be you) and a jerk (which most posters on this board have realized by now).
I guess it would be your turn to toss an insult now, but I have other plans than to feed your cyber-space habit anymore today.
#54 Re: I've played and continue to play sports for over 30 ...
Edit* I forgot to point out that I was being serious, and not snarky. If you quit watching Lost and sitcoms, you'll find a lot more time in your life.
But to what was said earlier:
Here's the point of what I was being told: "Clearly your the most insane poster ever in TCR history."
I wasn't even talking about Bradley, I wrote a nice post on what I thought the chances of dealing Zambrano would be and I got called 'insane'. So I made fun of him about it. He wanted it, he deserved it and he got it. That's how things work here in the real world.
Edit 2* Taking Rob G's good example to heart.
#24 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
They called and they want you back.
#25 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Just out of curiosity, you guys know there are mirror stores, right?
#43 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
"Clearly your the most insane poster ever in TCR history."
I disagree. I wouldn't characterize Neal as "insane". Moreover, nobody has even been in the neighborhood of approaching the madness that was Silent Towel. ST remains the poster child of commentor wackiness.
#4 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Well hopefully, Zambrano will take this season as a wake up call, and start to realize he's squandering his talent. He's 28, with a decent amount of mileage on his body. It's time for him to get in shape, get his act together, and pitch like he can.
Or go the Bartolo Colon route...whichever I guess?
#5 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Hendry won't be able to unload the $21M, but I'm sure someone would be willing to take Milton for half that over the next two years for some low prospect.
The "change of scenary" theory and stats he's put up historically would make him too enticing to an American League team.
Hendry will likely have to eat more than 2/3 of that contract plus the distraction and playing time he cost the team (not to mention the Derosa trade), the opportunity cost of signing Milton was far worse than the $20M of cash it cost.
#14 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Or they could trade him for another shitty contract.
Say Juan Pierre
(Not advocating that. But I wouldn't be shocked)
Especially since lou has groaned about lefthandedness and speed.
#15 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Unfortunately the Dodgers are also on Milton's burned bridges list.
One weird thing is how Ron Washington was happy to get Bradley even though he came from an organization that essentially did the same thing the Cubs did this year - suspending him indefinitely pending a trade.
I don't know that the Rangers need him, but it could be that they would be happy to get him for two more years at $5.5 per. Washington also got pretty good production out of Sammy, didn't he?
#20 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Couple of the sports station are floating around a Milton to Tigers for Maggs deal. Supposedly Tigers like Bradley. Still paying for one player but only for one year ($18 million).
#6 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
If they uload Zambrano - you better get something pretty special in return. And that means you pretty much have to go trade for Halladay, because there aren't any other big time FA starters this year.
The most intersting part of the offseason will be seeing how big of a fan Tom Ricketts really is - is he going to spend some money to make this a better team.
The Cubs are one of the most profitable teams in the Majors, so the money is there.
#7 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Maybe Hendry can work out a trade for Milton with some Japanese team if Milton really likes to be to himself so much. That way, he won't need to, or be able to, talk to anybody at all in the clubhouse OR the local press.
As for Z, he seems, just based on the in-game clubhouse shots, pretty jovial most of the time in games where he is either not pitching or pitching really well. Those shots of him putting his hand out of Fontenot's reach when doing the high five when Fontenot used to hit a little bit were classic.
#8 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
That's not a half bad idea on the Japanese thing - unfortunately, I don't think they pay players that much. I imagine the fans would be aghast when Bradley loses it with his first umpire. I don't think that the Japanese fans boo their home team (though they make a lot of noise), so that would be good for him.
#9 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
"I don't think that the Japanese fans boo their home team"
If Milton played for them I believe that tradition would be challenged.
#10 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/pie-in-th...
Unlike quite a few others here I've always thought Pie got a bum steer at Wrigley. Unlike C Pat, I always felt this guy had some good baseball instincts at the very least, and once in awhile showed some flashes of decent power. I wonder how his stats would have panned out if he had as much playing time as MB this year. In Wrigley.
#11 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Depends on if he ever fixed the ridiculous swing. He's basically Curtis Granderson back when Curtis Granderson struck out all the time.
#16 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Slightly off topic...why didn't the Cubs draft Granderson? UIC product..weird...
#17 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Why didn't the Cubs draft _______? The age-old question.
In Granderson's case, we needed those picks for Bobby Brownlie, Brian Dopirak and Justin Jones.
Frankly, sometimes it seems amazing the Cubs have drafted and developed anyone. Sure hope Wilken is the man who saves the org. We could use one of those.
#22 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
Do the Cubs use high round picks on guys from podunk schools? I can't think of any of the top of my head, but I am sure there's a blatant exception right in front of me.
#19 Re: 3 Teams Zambrano Willing to Get Traded To
THE Justin Jones??/ Oh..well never mind huh? Lol...
#23 Sandberg's a Free Agent
From the tidbits a the bottom of today's game story:
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2...
"Smokies manager Ryne Sandberg told a Chicago newspaper he's willing to listen to big league offers. "I'd have to weigh everything," Sandberg said. "I don't know the situation with all the teams. But if somebody thinks I'm ready, if they want to talk to me, I'd definitely listen."
Which implies that I missed it previously... 3/44? Milton Bradley can't hit with RISP?
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