Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
I'm in the midst of one of my hell projects at work, this one just happens to be a little more hellish and is gonna last until December. In order to keep the fun going around here, I thought I'd present some reasonable trade and free agent targets over the next weeks - some of the low-hanging fruit that will probably be more in line with Hendry's budget for 2010. I'm not really going to make a case one way or another, rather just try and open up the discussion. Today's guest is Atlanta Braves second basemen Kelly Johnson....
Braves GM Frank Wren came out today and said Martin Prado will pretty much go into 2010 as the their starting second basemen which leaves Kelly Johnson as prime trade bait. It doesn't mean the Braves have to move him, but he's certainly going to be available for the right price, which can't be a whole lot for a guy with a .692 OPS last year. He's also arbitration eligible and coming off a 2.85M payday in 2009, so it's very possible - let's go ahead and call it likely - that he'll just end up being non-tendered if he's not traded before December 12th.
| Year | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | GDP | HBP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2005 | 23 | 87 | 334 | 290 | 46 | 70 | 12 | 3 | 9 | 40 | 2 | 1 | 40 | 75 | .241 | .334 | .397 | .731 | 91 | 11 | 1 |
| 2007 | 25 | 147 | 608 | 521 | 91 | 144 | 26 | 10 | 16 | 68 | 9 | 5 | 79 | 117 | .276 | .375 | .457 | .831 | 117 | 8 | 4 |
| 2008 | 26 | 150 | 614 | 547 | 86 | 157 | 39 | 6 | 12 | 69 | 11 | 6 | 52 | 113 | .287 | .349 | .446 | .795 | 108 | 3 | 2 |
| 2009 | 27 | 106 | 346 | 303 | 47 | 68 | 20 | 3 | 8 | 29 | 7 | 2 | 32 | 54 | .224 | .303 | .389 | .692 | 82 | 4 | 3 |
| 4 Seasons | 490 | 1902 | 1661 | 270 | 439 | 97 | 22 | 45 | 206 | 29 | 14 | 203 | 359 | .264 | .346 | .430 | .777 | 103 | 26 | 10 | |
A tough year for Johnson in 2009 and honestly in 2008 he didn't look to great either until he just went nuts in September with a 1.071 OPS to bring his season OPS to a respectable .795 for a second basemen. And he did battle through a knee injury for most of 2008 as well. Defensively, BP has his Rate2 numbers as above average at 108 for his career while UZR over at Fangraphs doesn't think highly of him at all. The Fan's Scouting Report compiled by TangoTiger seems to think of him as average to below average at second base.
On the upside, 2010 will be his age 28 season compared to it being Mike Fontenot's age 30 season and the Cubs could definitely use an infusion of talent under the age of 30. His minor league numbers cumulated to a .832 OPS, but he broke out in 2005 with an OPS of 1.018 in Triple A at age 23 and looked well on his way in 2006 before an elbow injury and Tommy John surgery prematurely ended his season. Actually, Johnson started out as a left fielder(make that shortstop, then 3b, then left field) in the Braves system and that injury forced him to second
base, but enough time has passed that there's the very small possibility that he could fill a
utility role of some kind. If there's one thing that really makes me think it would be a good idea to go after Johnson, is that he had a BABIP of .249 last year, compared to his .313 career mark. He's either forgotten how to hit a baseball or last year was more about bad luck than anything else. He has a career walk rate of 10.9% which is on the high end and sees 3.94 pitches per plate appearance although both numbers have taken a hit over the last two seasons. Either he's losing his patient approach at the plate or pitchers have been more willing to go after him as his power numbers have dropped off.
There's no way the Cubs would pull off a trade for Johnson and just hand him a job, the only reasonable scenarios are make a trade or sign him after he's non-tendered and then let him compete with Jeff Baker...that is unless the Cubs end up signing Chone Figgins to play second base which I have my doubts will happen. Also any reasonable scenario of bringing Johnson in would mean the end of the Godenot era, but I personally have no problems with that as Johnson is younger, higher upside and has had major league success as a regular.
So how say you TCR readers, should the Cubs make a run at Johnson?
*UPDATE* I should note that Mike Fontenot does have one option year left and at 2 year and 139 service days (according to Arizona Phil) it appears he's going to miss Super Two status by two days
meaning the Cubs could bring him back on an auto-renew and send him to
the minors if there's no spot for him after spring training.
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#1 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets : Kelly Johnson
"would mean the end of the Godenot era, but I personally have no problems "
Until an unemployed Esther moves into your house.
#2 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets : Kelly Johnson
Trade low level prospect for him and non-tender Fontenot
Trade Aaron Miles for him???????????
#3 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets : Kelly Johnson
they should definitely trade Aaron Miles for him, and while they're at it see if we can get Lincecum or Greinke for Samardzija straight up.
#4 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets : Kelly Johnson
Maybe we can add Milton Bradley to sweeten the deal?
#5 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets : Kelly Johnson
if the Braves were willing to tolerate Bradley, a Bradley for Johnson deal would be fantastic imo...doubt the Cubs would get much better talent for Bradley.
also doubt the Braves are interested in Bradley.
#47 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets : Kelly Johnson
Its' funny you say that, that is one of the trades Steve Phillips said he would make if he were Cubs' GM.
#6 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets : Kelly Johnson
small update at end of post, looks like Fontenot will not qualify as Super Two...
#7 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
This may or may not have something to do with my lifelong man-crush on Sandberg, but I've always liked the idea of, well, a starting 2B, something this team hasn't had in a long time (although we had 2 in 2003, go figure).
I did the same math you did, Rob, when I saw the Prado comments this morning. Didn't realize how far Johnson's bat had fallen, but this guy could be a perfect new project for..... JARAMILLO-MAN!!! (along with everything else he's got to fix)
And one more thing just occurred to me, LF, 2B, Braves..... this guy could be the next DeRosa!! And Jaramillo changed DeRo's life, ergo....
#11 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
Young, Morandini, DeRosa?
I imagine if you look at any team after they just had a HOF caliber player manning the position for 10+ years, they've almost all had a hard time filling the role for longer than a couple years at a time.
#8 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
"That whole situation couldn't have been handled better by Kelly. He handled it so gracefully, and it gave all of us who are his best friends permission to root for Prado."
When the Braves removed Johnson from his regular role and then asked him to regain his swing during this Minor League rehab assignment, they were impressed with the dignity he displayed. He never publicly criticized the organization or the decision, which was based on the fact that he'd hit .191 with a .257 on-base percentage in his previous 39 games.
"Kelly has handled all of this like a true professional," Wren said.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd...
I love the guy already...
#9 This is Going to be Awesome
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/p...
not a big Ozzie fan, but that should be some entertaining television...
#10 Re: This is Going to be Awesome
Will there be subtitles?
#48 Re: This is Going to be Awesome
If they want real fireworks they should pair Ozzie with Hunter Wendlestat in studio.
#54 Re: This is Going to be Awesome
"Dat cull by dat umpire was buwshit."
#62 Re: This is Going to be Awesome
HAAAAAAA. Yeah. Always a fan of second language phonetic comedy. Which second language is it you've nailed to perfection?
#65 Re: This is Going to be Awesome
Give me 20 years to learn it..I'll nail Spaniish. Thanks.
#66 Re: This is Going to be Awesome
Laugh if you want, but you know Ozzie won't be able to do this without dropping an f bomb. Or at least "buwshit".
#12 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
Another Braves 2B worth considering is their utility guy, Omar Infante. He's an enigmatic player who's shown signs of breaking out in the past, has hit well in limited exposure the last couple years and gets to balls up the middle pretty well. At 27, he's right on the verge of that magic year Hendry likes to cash in on. He's got a reasonable contract @ 2.5 million.
#14 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
the guy the Cubs traded to rid themselves of Will Ohman?
Infante is a utlilty bench player...johnson has upside to be a contributing regular.
#22 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
I wouldn't condemn him just cuz the braintrust decided to trade him. He put up a 101 OPS+ at age 22 in full time play while Johnson's 3-year stat line reads like a guy falling down a stairway. I think he's got potential to take a step forward into a full-time role. Johnson's intriguing but I'm hard pressed to think of a 2B who has successfully reversed a multi-year decline as marked as his.
#25 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
I'm condemning him because he's 5-9" waif and shown no power since a fluke year in 2004 and doesn't show any really patience either.
as for Johnson's decline, yeah, that's the rub...do the Cubs think it's fixable or is he on his way out of the league? That I can't possibly answer from my laptop....
#64 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
I also would prefer Infante over Kelly Johnson because Infante gives you plus defense and can play legit SS and, imo, legit 3B. If you're going to put a dud in the lineup, at least put one in who can play good defense.
But, the problem with Omar Infante is they already have Omar Infante... they just call him Andres Blanco. And it's true and well documented I like Andres Blanco, but I don't like him so much I think they need two of him.
#73 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
Shit, at one point we had three of him, and the last was acquired by trading Greg Maddux.
#13 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
I don't see the point, in all honesty, unless it's a free agent pickup. Even then, I'm still not sure I see a point. Btw, I think Kelly started his career as a shortstop, or was drafted as one, was shifted to the OF, then moved back to 2nd when they started developing some guys.
Short of it is ... why spend assets, money and/or talent to add a guy who, while I agree he is better than Fontenot and more of a regular possibility than Fontenot, would be, in all likelihood, a platoon option here, and Fontenot is passable as a platoon option if the team wanted. If he's free and comes really cheap, sure, I'd take a look.
I do expect Kelly Johnson to bounce back, but right now, with the payroll as such, I'd rather focus on more significant upgrades, is possible.
#15 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
Fontenot was anything but passable this year and I'm not at all sure about him bouncing back and we all know Jeff Baker is going to fade back into oblivion.
But if you are expecting Johnson to bounce back to an .800 OPS with doubles power and a good patient approach, then that would likely be a steal, whether it be a few C prospects or $2M after he's non-tendered.
and yes, drafted as a shortstop, played 3b in the minors as well, then left field and then 2b after surgery and most likely to fill an organizational hole.
anyway, major upgrades are most likely not happening unless Hendry can pull off trading the bulk of Bradley's contract and one of the starting pitchers contracts (Dempster or Lilly). It's gonna be about finding guys off down years and at low prices and hoping the Cubs scouts can get lucky discovering a few players.
#26 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
I probably wasn't clear in the original post, but I was suggesting that I think Fontenot would be passable as a platoon option, not as a regular. I think Fontenot is a better hitter than he was this year, although not as good as folks thought he was last year.
I'm also not sure why Jeff Baker is going to fade back into oblivion. I'm not expecting Jeff to be as good as he was down the stretch for us, but I think it's certainly possible that Jeff is finally starting to show some of the immense potential that people expected when he was drafted.
I'm not expecting major changes either, although I expect the Cubs to make a push for one FA acquisition. Heck, I've made the case before that, while Sam Fuld isn't a long term starter, that he fits the Cubs needs enough that I'm not so sure that a Fuld/Baker combination wouldn't be better than what we could likely do at CF/2nd (along with upgrading CF defense) when all factors are considered. Not that I am expecting Fuld to get that chance (and have heard it several times that he's only a backburner option). Short of it is, for all the talk about a middle of the order bat addition, I think the Cubs best chances to help the middle of the order will come from Jaramillo helping Soto/Soriano get back to form.
#28 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
he's Jeff Baker, he basically had one great month for the Cubs last year and isn't going to keep up that .374 BABIP he had for the Cubs last year....
#31 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
Best case solution:
Let Tony Thomas start the year in Iowa
Let Fonty and Baker platoon 2nd base in 2010
If Thomas shows he is ready, then you can trade/non tender Fonty and Baker next offseason.
Or
Trade for JJ Hardy
#45 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
Best case solution: trade Bradley for Utley, Philly also gives us some cash.
#46 Re: Cubs Potential Offseason Targets: Kelly Johnson
they'll need a 2bmen too then, I say we chip in Aaron Miles just to make them feel like they're getting deal....
2 for 1 Phil Rogers approved trade...
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