Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
The Cubs have traded RHP Aaron Heilman to the Arizona Diamondbacks for two minor leaguers, LHP Scott Maine and 1B Ryne White. No one on the Cubs or their fans is probably gonna miss Heilman so I won't waste much space on him, but it was a good way for the Cubs to get something for a guy that was probably a good bet to get non-tendered.
White's a local boy that went to high school at St. Rita, not too far from MIdway Airport. He then went to college at Purdue and was drafted in the 4th round by the Diamondbacks in 2008. He spent that year in Rookie Ball and then the Midwest League for a handful of at-bats, so the Cubs probably got a chance to see him a bit there. Last year he went to Hi-A with Visalia and finished with a 266/371/356 with 65 BB's against 87 K's in 491 PA's. He'll be 23 next season.
Prior to the 2009 season, one scout.com article had him listed as a top 5 power hitting prospect in the Diamondbacks system, although he has yet to show that power.
White suffered a power outage once he began to face Midwest League pitching. Still, between Purdue, Missoula, and South Bend, White combined for 34 doubles, a triple, 19 homers, and 99 RBI in 2008. He is a big pull hitter who figures to improves as he continues to receive professional instruction. There are several Diamondbacks prospects who displayed more power this year, including Harbin, Peter Clifford, and Isaias Asencio, but none of them has quite the ceiling that White does.
He played a little bit of right and left field as well last year for Visalia.
Maine's a 6-3" lefty that will be 25 next season and was drafted in the 6th round in the 2007 draft out of the University of Miami. He pitched for both Double A and Triple A in 2009 and between the two leagues he had a 2.90 ERA in 2009 in 62 IP and a 8.9 K/9 rate and 3.2 BB/9 rate and a 0.3 HR/9. He was selected for the Arizona Fall League, but just made two appearances and gave up 3 runs in 1.2 IP. I assume he was replaced, but can't find any details on the matter.
He got hit pretty hard in 2009 by lefties, a .325 average versus .259 versus righties, but his K/9 rate was much better versus lefties, so it could just be a matter of bad luck. His career minor league splits show a .259 BA against lefties with a 10.59 K/9 rate compared to a .266 BA versus righties and 8.92 K/9 rate. He also seems to be able to induce more groundball versus lefties than righties (55.3% versus 42.0%).
Stuff wise, he comes from a low-three quarters delivery and features a fastball (89-92), curveball (wicked movement, difficult to control) and a changeup.
It should be noted that Maine has already undergone Tommy John Surgery way back in 2004 and also was in a very bad car wreck that shattered his skull and forced him to wear a protective face plate. At the very least, he's a good comeback story to root for...








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#1 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Actually looks like a decent haul.
I wish Aaron luck. I've known him for a long time. He is a good dude.
#2 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Good Riddance
#3 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Seemed like a nice guy, but he was a head case on the mound. I always liked Heilman from afar, but when he arrived on the Cubs, I could see why he was hated so much in NY, for example. Considering he definitely wasn't coming back next season, it's somewhat impressive that the Cubs got what they did.
How much will this save us in arbitration?
#4 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Heilman's situation reminds me a little of the Marquis situation going into last season - he didn't perform terribly as a Cub, but it was more about what he represented by his being here. With Marquis, he was always a very serviceable 5th starter but his salary was (rightfully) viewed as a roadblock to getting Jake Peavy and he had to go. When we didn't get Peavy at all, it was almost like some Cubs fans turned on Marquis and blamed him for having something to do with that fiasco. It was a shame to see Cubs fans boo him so mightily when he came back to Wrigley. To me, Heilman (along with Gregg) represents the overall failure of the bullpen to live up to expectations, so he had to go, even though he wasn't an awful reliever. Still, I won't be shedding any tears over his departure... it definitely opens up a spot for someone like Caridad for next season...
#16 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
The thing about Heilman is that he did his best work when the game didn't count. Every time (seemingly) he got in a high leverage situation, he failed.
If you look at http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sorta... - which I think is sorted to just the Cubs, you can see that he was used in the fourth highest 'leverage' situations but he had the worst expected wins among the guys who were around for a significant time. Same story in 2009.
Based solely on how well he was doing in ST getting "starter" innings, I think that a team would be best served giving him a shot to start, and if it doesn't work out let him be a long reliever.
#5 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Hendry sez he's got volume...can a donut joke be far behind?
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PWSullivan: Hendry cites bullpen "volume" in Heilman deal, namely Marmol, Grabow, Caridad, Samardzija, Gorzelanny, Marshall, Berg. Lou can sleep better
#6 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
OK ... but if Gorz and Marshall are both in the pen, who starts?
#7 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
you've clearly understimated Mitch Atkins...
#8 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
I will simply accept it as a sign that a pre-arranged trade and extension for Roy Halladay should be announced any day now.
#19 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
More like... Hendry will tease Cubs fans with rumors and talks of a trade for Halladay, and then nothing will get done ala Peavy and Roberts.
#9 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
So is the Ricketts honeymoon over?
#11 Re: So is the Ricketts honeymoon over?
(hand up!) They've been in my doghouse for months.
#10 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Big Picture: We traded Felix Pie (who got us Garrett "Peavy bait" Olson) + Ron Cedeno and have so far received in return:
1 year of Aaron Heilman (who you may recall wants to be a starter not a reliever--- and was another one of those players Hendry "admired ever since he played for Notre Dame.")
RHP Hank Williamson AAA
LHB 1B Ryne White A+
LHP Scott Maine AAA
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I'm okay with this, although I have to admit if Baltimore wanted these guys I might trade all 3 for Felix Pie.
#13 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Not that I was a big Pie fan. Keep in mind that we traded felix to open a open a spot for Joey Gathright.
#14 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
I thought the Bradley signing made much less sense after we traded Pie. We may have been able to carry Gathright a lot longer if the good hitters actually did their jobs (and Ramirez stayed healthy).
This trade gives us another slot on the 40 man right? So technically it's like a 3 for 1 (these two plus the last man who would have been cut), assuming that the Cubs would have lost someone in the Rule V draft, which based on recent years seems likely.
#15 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
The lefty pitcher is 25 and finished last year in aaa.
He is probably on the 40.
#17 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
he could make the 40 by spring training, but the Cubs don't have to put him on there quite yet.
#18 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
I think you get more than two years... but the Rule V draft is too complicated for me to keep track of.
#28 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Maybe Diamond is protected from the Rule 5 now. He has been doing fairly well in the Mexicano League.
#12 More from Muskat...
http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/1119_mi...
#20 Greg Maddux's descent to obscurity is complete
Johnson, Lincecum's teammate this year in San Francisco, and Sandy Koufax are the only other pitchers to win consecutive NL Cy Young Awards.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10398050/Giants...
#29 Re: Greg Maddux's descent to obscurity is complete
What about Maddog?
#35 Re: Greg Maddux's descent to obscurity is complete
He won 4 in a row.
#37 Re: Greg Maddux's descent to obscurity is complete
Sorry Jacos, but I am going to have to take the AP's word over yours.
They haven't even corrected it yet - at least not of foxsports.
#39 Re: Greg Maddux's descent to obscurity is complete
Fox News has been making a few mistakes lately. I think they had Sarah Palin winning consecutive NL Cy Youngs also.
#21 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
I've been reading a bunch of blogs, tweets, etc.
Someone said White was a "Matt Stairs type".
That's good, right?
(personally, I hope he breaks with the big club someday just to have another "Ryno" to cheer for)
EDIT-- It was Hendry. It's mentioned in Muskrat's blog Rob linked to above.
#26 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
being described as a "matt stairs type" isn't good for anyone unless they're already 30+ years old, imo...heh.
hopefully it means he's as good natured as stairs...he's a real clubhouse tamer and will go to extraordinary unselfish measures to lighten moods.
#27 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Stairs is a clubhouse cancer, he's been on 9 teams over the last 9 years, despite a career 118 OPS+.
He's really an interesting case study in a guy everyone likes to have but no one wants to keep. No one ever says anything bad about him, he does just what he's advertised to do, and every year, pretty much he has to find a new team.
You want to look at his numbers and say that he's done, but I am sure people wanted to do the same thing after 2000 and after 2006.
#50 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Fat Stairs can't play a lick of defense. If I am not mistaken, his parents were Hell's Angels.
#22 Re: Cubs Deal Heilman to Diamondbacks
Levine points out this may also have been done to help finance Grabow
http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/467...
I started hating Heilman less recently after I saw how little we were paying him; I think since he's over 30 I thought he was making more. Still, not going to miss him.
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