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Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:25pm

Few details at the moment but Aaron Miles and Jake Fox plus a $1M are going to the Oakland Athletics for RHP Jeff Gray and two more prospects. Refresh for updates...

UPDATE #1: The other two prospects look to be 21 year old RHP Ronny Morla and 23 year old OF/1B Matt Spencer.

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#1 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:31pm.

that is such bullshit.

we give away mike weurtz to the A's cuz lou won't play him and now we give away jake fox in order to lure the A's to take a couple million of our payroll.

just cuz the manager won't play the guys doesn't mean we gotta give them away...yeesh.

#2 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:43pm.

btw...that rant is based on it being ronny morla and matt spence as part of the deal as i was told...

#3 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Jim Hickmans Bat on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:48pm.

So let me see if I have this straight. To free up $1.7MM in payroll that he utterly wasted on Miles last winter, Hendry has to give Oakland a player better than the three "prospects" combined that he's getting in return? Nice gig if you can get it, huh? Remind me again how this fat fuck keeps his job.

Prediction: Jake Fox has 11 big league homers. I predict that these three prospects will never combine for as much as 11 big league innings played.

#39 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by The Real Neal on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 8:32pm.

I will take that bet for a cool $1,000,000.

Before you accept, please note that Gray already has 31 innings.

#4 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by John Beasley on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:48pm.

Aaron Miles follows Macias and Ne!f! and the rest down the path of Hendry MI Shame.

Fox has the better minor league track record and is slightly younger, but Hendry did in fact acquire the player who had the higher MLB value in 2009 according to FanGraphs. Yes, stats can lie, but so can your eyes. Maybe we'll get lucky for once.

#5 Vicente Padilla

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:48pm.

some craziness about Vicente Padilla and the Cubs

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/cubs-an...

#40 Re:

Submitted by The Real Neal on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 8:41pm.

It's Hendry's continued testing to see just what level of headcase player his $4 million manager can actually manage.

#6 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Sweet Lou on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:49pm.

Jake Fox is viewed as a hitter without a position. In truth, he can play several positions, but none of them very well. Hitting is his strength and he probably is better suited for the AL.

Trading Miles was a good move on Hendry's part. I didn't think anyone would take him, so getting anything for him is good.

The problem I have with the trade is that it uses up two trade chips that could better be used in a more important trade (i.e. for a player the Cubs actually need).

#7 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Charlie on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:53pm.

It uses up one trade chip that could have been used to get something the Cubs need, Jake Fox.

Aaron Miles would likely detract value from most potential deals because he is overpaid and easily replaceable (from within most teams' farm systems).

#8 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:53pm.

don't have time to do dossiers on these guys at the moment, but Gray's one of those great stuff, can't control it guys. Can never have enough bullpen arms and I assume he has some option years left.

the other 2 from their numbers look like a 22-yr old kid that K's a lot of hitters and a corner outfielder/1b type with a lot of power and not much else but from the left side...Jake Fox's mirror image in other words.

#10 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:55pm.

in 08 gray suddenly added 2-4mph on his fastball (low 90s to mid 90s) and traded some of his control for it.

he had a VERY straight-as-an-arrow low 90s fastball for years. by dialing it up it gives his fastball more movement, but at the expense of his control.

#11 Gray

Submitted by John Beasley on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:56pm.

The first thing that jumps at me as to why Gray probably had much greater MLB success in 09 than AAA/MLB success in 07 and 08 is because of the drop in BB/9. Of course, the K/9 comes down too, but at least at first glance it seemed to work for him last year (116 ERA+).

So just stop him from walking guys somehow and then settle for less K's.

Disclaimer: I've never seen this guy pitch, and I don't suppose to know what I'm talking about.

#12 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:01pm.

see comment above.

he's also extremely athletic with a great work ethic.

i don't like how he throws, myself. he keeps in great shape at least. also, don't fool yourself looking at numbers...he's still hittable.

when he's "on" he can control his high velocity FB low in the zone making it look like it's got some sink. he still throws a lot of stuff straight even at the higher velocity even though it added more movement than he used to have.

#16 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by John Beasley on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:05pm.

What else does he throw?

#18 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:09pm.

he actually throws just about f'n everything.

he's one of those guys who never really found a secondary pitch, but can throw a slider, change, curve, etc because he's tried to throw them all over the years.

his slider is his main secondary.

#17 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Paul Noce on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:07pm.

So he's somewhat similar to Kyle Farnsworth, with less heat and a little more movement on his fastball?

Can we call him Albino Farns? What ever happened to Black Farns?

#9 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Sweet Lou on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 5:54pm.

Wait a minute... Why are the Cubs paying $1 million to Oakland? Isn't getting the short end of the stick on the players enough?

#15 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Paul Noce on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:03pm.

Welcome to Jim Hendry's way of thinking, Sweet Lou.

Hendry makes another bad signing with Miles and we lose Fox and a million bucks for the privilege of getting 3 fringe players. Nice move, Jimbo. If Piniella can't see the value of Fox, despite his mediocre glove, being a cheap, team controlled player for 4 more seasons who can fill in when Soriano and Aramis get their yearly injuries, we're just screwed. It just smacks of being hypocritical. We have crappy fielders at almost every position and Lou rants about Fox. Typical Cubbery.

#19 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:10pm.

fwiw, Spencer was traded as part of the Blanton deal

his numbers look a lot like Jake Fox's when he was 23..

#20 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:10pm.

I'm just glad Hendry didn't throw in Marmol or Vitters to sweeten the deal for Oakland.

#45 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by DJH on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 9:10pm.

The answer Sweet Lou is because Miles was completely miserable last year. 1,000,000 dollars out of the 140 million we are going to spend is not much. The result is that we no longer have a 5'2" worthless "utility" player taking up a roster spot...well worth the money. The bad move was signing Miles in the first place, not trading him for prospects. In my opinion, the odds of Jeff Gray being productive are about as high as the odds of Aaron Miles being productive...plus you save 1.7 million off of his terrible, terrible contract.

For those angry about Fox...clearly we weren't getting better offers for Fox. I think all the Jake Fox lovers actually love him more than they should simply because when he played, he was NOT Soriano and NOT Bradley. Let's remember who Fox is...a nice guy but a guy that can't play the field and can't hit a breaking ball.

#63 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Dusty Baylor on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 10:48pm.

Lol...yes, and it's getting so late in the off season that they had to get something done. Kudos for getting rid of Miles I suppose.

As for Fox's fielding, I've seen a lot worse players out there than him He'll never be conssidered a good fielder, but taken into consideration how little 3B he played in the minors, he did well enough in short stretches.

Meh...off to a roaring start?

#13 Bruce Miles

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:01pm.

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3023

confirms the $1M being sent over..

#14 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:02pm.

lame.

#21 Mariners want a RH bat...

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:13pm.

that's one thing Bradley did last year...

come on down, Carlos Silva....

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/mariner...

#22 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:16pm.

holy crap their web site design keeps getting worse. at least their ad servers are intelligent...they fed me horticulture ads. woo tracking cookies.

#23 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:27pm.

Crunch.......grows weed

#28 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 6:49pm.

I wish...

Unfortunately, part of working in horticulture is avoiding that whole "getting a felony in the field you want to work" thing.

It's like a trying to be a bus driver with a DWI conviction on your record.

Also, I'm not into prison buttsex or lawyer's fees.

#33 Re: Aaron Miles and Jake Fox Traded To A's

Submitted by The Joe on Thu, 12/03/2009 - 7:11pm.

Have you tried prison fees with lawyer buttsex? It's aces.

#69 Re:

Submitted by carlosrubi on Fri, 12/04/2009 - 2:58am.

"Also, I'm not into prison buttsex or lawyer's fees."

That's not what I was told...

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