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Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

a lot of ground to cover here, let's get to it...

UPDATE: Muskat previews the Winter Meetings and says up to three teams are interested in Bradley. Talks have happened with the Tigers for Granderson but not looking good at the moment. Reed Johnson is welcome back and Mark DeRosa is out of the Cubs price range.

- Mlive.com has a pretty detailed report on the negotiations between the Cubs and Tigers so far for Curtis Granderson. The Tigers wanted Carlos Marmol or Starlin Castro as the headliner in a trade and they've been deemed untouchable (that always works out well for the Cubs). They did do some previous scouting on Jake Fox last season and he could of been of interest as part of the package, but they'll have to get him from the A's now.  Names like Josh Vitters, Jay Jackson, Andrew Cashner and Hak-Ju Lee are thrown around, but they don't quite bring the right mixture of major league readiness and prospectdom that the Tigers are craving.

- A very sketchy rumor of the Cubs having interest in Vicente Padilla.

- Chone Figgins to the Mariners for 4/36 according to Rosenthal. A bit pricey, but such is the cost of dabbling in free agency.

- My favorite article of the last 48 hours over at NESN.com proclaims, "Cubs May Be Primed to Throw Loads of Cash at Jason Bay".  You see that headline in your Google Reader and immediately start wondering how did everyone miss the scoop on that one? Then you click the link written by Evans Clinchy, who graduated from Tufts University with a degree in English and you start to wonder if Tufts University must be some online diploma factory.

Mr. Clinchy goes on about how the Cubs would be some good fit for Bay because they've thrown money at outfielders before, without offering any type of inside source or made-up source or even a guy that looked like Jim Hendry at the coffee shop saying the Cubs have any interest in Bay. He completely ignored or just didn't bother to research that the Cubs have very little payroll flexibility this offseason, want to move Fukudome to right and are having a hard time getting anyone to take Bradley without paying most of his contract.

- Here's Arizona Phil's take on Ronny Morla and Matt Spencer from the comments.

Ronny Morla and Matt Spencer will be eligible for the Rule 5 Draft for the first time post-2010.


I have seen quite a bit of Morla out here over the past three years(he was at Extended Spring Training 2007-09), because the Cubs play mostly the A's, Giants, and Angels in Minor League Spring Training, EXST, and Instructs. He is somewhat comparable to Robert Hernandez, a bit raw but with some upside.

And I saw Spencer play quite a bit in his college days at Arizona State and then a little bit in Minor League Camp (ST), and I would compare him to Micah Hoffpauir (1B-LF-RF). While Hoffpauir is the better defender at 1B, Spencer has a stronger arm and is a better corner OF, although he can play 1B, too.


If Hoffpauir spends the entire 2010 season in the big leagues, he will almost certainly qualify for salary arbitration as a "Super Two" post-2010, so the Cubs may be thinking about Spencer as a possible replacement for Hoffpauir in 2011.

He also says Jeff Gray has one minor league option left. With the Cubs swapping Miles and Fox for Gray on the 40-man roster, they have 3 open spots at the moment.

I know there's a lot of hand-wringing going on over losing Fox or more appropriately having to move Fox to get the A's to take on $1.7M of Miles and his contract. I think the Cubs did okay on their prospect haul - of course I thought the same thing when they traded Michael Wuertz to the A's - and no matter what you believe in Jake Fox's talents, they for some reason were under-appreciated and not going to be utlized by our four million dollar manager.  Better to get something, than nothing for a guy who was out of options.

Speaking of, a good time to mention that I completed entering all the transactions between the Cubs and the rest of the league at Wiklifield.  You can find the link on the top menu bar under Wiklified and "Transactions by Teams" which takes you to the current 30 major league franchises. On each page is the Cubs record vs the team, broken out by decade as well and then the transactions and some other tidbits. The A's and Cubs have hooked up quite a bit over the last six years as you can see. Starting with Michael Barrett for Damien Miller in 2003 and so far 3 trades already in 2009 (Wuertz, Roquet and now the Fox/Miles trades)

- The folks at Cubscast are pushing a "Dawson4thehall hashtag blitz" for this Tuesday. I think that means it involves Twitter, and you can support the cause by following their instructions. And then explain to me what the hell hashtag means.

- I was slow on getting this link up, but our pal Tim at Cubby-Blues put together a get-well card for Ted Lilly, including get well wishes from some fans.

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#1 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Brewers make big FA splash.

Sign Greg Zaun.

#2 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Hashtag. Unless I'm mistaken, the rest of the world calls it a pound sign. #

Rob, the transaction-by-franchise stuff is great. Does Wiklifield also have all of Hendry's transactions on one page?

#3 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

not yet, but would love to group all of them together. Anyone can of course contribute to Wiklifield, so if you're so inclined, feel free to start it.

I would love to do it for all the Cubs GM's.

MLB trade rumors posted one earlier
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/jim-hen...

#5 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Thanks!

I'd like to contribute to Wiklifield, espeically on some of those old players. Now I just have to learn enough about them to actually communicate something...and find the time.

"2000
December 11th: Lost RHP Scott Chiasson to the Cubs in Rule 5 draft."

Man, I remember thinking Chaisson was going to be our closer before he got hurt.

#6 Re:

Speaking of closers...

"1987
April 3rd: Traded Brian Guinn (minors), Dave Wilder (minors), and Mark Leonette (minors) for RHP Dennis Eckersley and INF Dan Rohn."

#7 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

it can get painful looking through some of them....

also needed to thank homerzzz, who helped tremendously with getting me the info from retrosheet and with the site upgrade.

#46 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

A lot of people forget, or didn't know that Eck was an alcoholic mess when he got traded.

#52 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

I recall that. Did he "clean up" upon getting to Oakland? Thinking about it now, its funny that LaRussa managed him.

#53 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

"Eckersley remained with the Cubs in 1985, when he posted an 11–7 record with two shutouts (the last two of his career). Eckersley's performance deteriorated in 1986, when he posted a 6–11 record with a 4.57 ERA. After the season, he checked himself into a rehabilitation clinic to treat alcoholism. (Eckersley noted in Pluto's book that he realized the problem he had after family members videotaped him while drunk and played the tape back for him the next day.)"

From his wikipedia, but if you search around you can find more gruesome details.

#8 Re: Wiklified

if you click on the blue links in there, you'll also find things like all the players to be named later, history of Rule 5 draft, I've started putting together Type A, Type B and Type C free agents and free agent compensation as well.

#9 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

chaisson had a hell of an arm.

#11 Re: Chiasson

I believe he was the last player drafted in the major league portion by the Cubs that stuck until David Patton this year. And they did it by only pitching him 6.2 IP.

Maybe the rules changed because he pitched 73 innings in the minors that year.

#15 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Angel Pagan?

#34 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Mets sold Angel Pagan to us...

#32 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

We traded Eric Hinkie for the rights to keep Chiasson.

#35 Re: Chiasson/hinske

intriguing, BR.com/Retrosheet says Hinske for Miguel Cairo, but the timing of it on March 28th indicates keeping Chiasson could have been part of it. They did make some other mistakes as well.

a google search seems to confirm it.

thanks for the tip...

#47 Re:

Sammy Sosa?

#38 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Stevens, I've already compiled all of Jim Hendry's transactions, but just haven't had time to put them up yet. I pasted them all in here for you to work with:

http://wiklifield.thecubreporter.com/Jim_Hend...

If you want edit and reshape the page, put in links, subsections, etc. That would be great!

#4 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Crunch loves Hastags

#10 Re:

that joke is 3/44, dawg.

#13 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

In his blog, Bruce Miles of the Daily Herald says that there is "not a shred of truth" to the Padilla rumor.

He has also heard rumblings of some interest in Rick Ankiel, but labels them as "premature" at this point as the Cubs are "merely looking".

I suspect Hendry tried valiantly to acquire OF Aaron Cunnningham from the A's, since the trades of Miles and Heilman have left us completely Aaron-less. Keep an eye out for deals for Cook, Harang, Hill, Laffey, Poreda or Rowand.

#45 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

That is brilliant. Can a team win with many Aarons?

#51 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

I would think they'd enhance any team they were on?

#54 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

It used to be Todds. What's the pattern?

#78 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Proper names with double letters. Waiting on the ultra-rare all-Eero team.

#12 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

I was looking for something solid in that "pretty detailed report on the negotiations between the Cubs and Tigers so far for Curtis Granderson"--but all I could find was a link to Phil Rogers, the source of all Granderson-to-Cubs rumors.

At some point we need a second source here, or it's a non-story.

#17 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

Sullivan, Miles, Rosenthal have all mentioned the Cubs are interested as well...

#14 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

jaysyoyn stark on bradley and the winter meetings.

"Bradley was the runaway winner of our Most Likely to Get Traded at the Winter Meetings poll. And why is that? Because Milton Bradley can hit, gang. It's that basic."

pleeeeeeeeeease take our .375+ ob% CF/RF from us so we can get someone who doesn't hit as well...we'll throw in cash, too. he gives our 4m manager a headache because he can hear him from his office...even with the door closed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove09/colu...

#21 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

....who also misses a quarter of the season with various injuries...who is a powder keg waiting to explode at players, managers, umpires, fans, the media...who has had what could be considered 3 good full seasons in 10, and showed a lack of power last season?

That guy? They should have never signed him. Period.
They sure effed up the handling of the whole suspension, but please don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

#23 Re: Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Granderson, Padilla & TCR Friday Notes

if you go out and adopt a problem child from a broken home to take into your foster home you should be prepared to handle it, imo.

nothing excuses bradley's behavior, but they adopted this child then did nothing to coddle the baby. it doesn't matter even a shred that it "shouldn't have to be done" because what matters is it DOES have to be done.

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