Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
6:23 PM
Cross the Angels off the list...that leaves Orioles, Red Sox, Yankees, Tigers, Indians, White Sox, Twins, Athletics if it's an AL team. I'd go ahead and cross Indians and Twins immediately off that list and probably the Orioles as I can't think of a bad contract they'd want to move. Yanks, Red Sox, White Sox, Tigers or A's?
6:13 PM
Cross the Blue Jays off the list...mystery team indeed.
5:33 PM
Both Muskat and Wittenmyer shoot down the Mariners rumor...something is brewing though.
5:20 PM
The beat writers now chime in...Wittenmyer states:
It involves a three-team deal in which the Cubs would receive a player who would then need to be flipped to another team, but it's doesn't involve the long-rumored Tampa Bay Rays (ed note: or the Rangers).
Bruce Miles is a little more subdued:
The Cubs stated flatly this afternoon that no deal was imminent for right fielder Milton Bradley. There has been speculation that something could get done as early as tonight, but one Cubs person said Wednesday is a more likely date.
Sullivan agrees that Wednesday is more likely but still has the Rays and Rangers very much in the mix.
5:18 PM
More Tim Brown saying the M's and Cubs are talking Bradley for Silva..."nothing imminent".
4:47 PM
Tim Brown of Yahoo tweets it's not Rays or Rangers(as does Joel Sherman). He got a no comment from a Blue Jays official and then throws out Seattle as a possible destination with Carlos Silva coming back to the Cubs.
4:25 PM
Jayson Stark on the other hand, says nothing has changed much on the Bradley front.
4:22 PM
My bad earlier, I guess Schlereth was a Diamondbacks prospect, I thought he came from the Yankees. Anyway, Rosenthal tries to give some justification on moving Scherzer whom the DBacks felt was better suited to be a reliever.
4:06 PM
Wittenmyer tweets that a deal is close involving Bradley with a "surprise AL team".
2:49 PM
Some NL Central rumors from MLBTR...the Randy Wolf offer from the Brewers is a steep 3/31 and Blue Jays and Pirates might have been talking about a Ryan Doumit trade.
2:15 PM
Bruce Levine reports that Cubs could be on verge of trading Bradley, as soon as today. It doesn't really hint at who the team is or what player or players are involved. Also, and possibly related or possibly unrelated, Hendry has talked to the Rockies about some of their outfield depth.
2:02 PM:
A Jose Guillen for Milton Bradley rumor is quickly swatted down.
1:56 PM:
Don't forget about the #Dawson4thehall campaign on twitter. You can check out my misguided humor as well on twitter.
1:33 PM:
Brewers taking a look at Kevin Gregg according to Muskat. As disappointing as Gregg was last year and by no means should the Cubs bring him back, I wouldn't be suprised if he thrived in a middle relief role or back-up closer. His home run rates were scary bad, but he did improve his walk and K rates last year.
1:08 PM:
Differing reports here, but it looks like a 3-way deal is going to happen between the Tigers, D'Backs and Yankees. Yankees get Curtis Granderson, Diamondbacks get Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy and the Tigers get Max Scherzer, Phil Coke, Daniel Schlereth and Austin Jackson. Michael Dunn was in there instead of Schlereth at one point as well.
Quick reaction, D'Backs are retarded...I realize 2-for-1 gets the Phil Rogers seal of approval on a trade, but Scherzer is a better and cheaper pitcher than Jackson. Yankees have to give up a lot, but they're the Yankees, they can afford these kind of moves and end up with a left-handed power bat that can roam center field legitimately and take advantage of Yankee Stadium at a decent price over the next three years. Plus they make the trade without having to give up Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain. Tigers score with a heavy prospect load that will be most ready to contribute immediately, including stealing Scherzer for Jackson, which is just be fucking brilliant on their part.
Speculation will immediately lead to the Yankees possibly dealing Melky Cabrera and the Cubs being interested. First, I can't imagine what the Cubs would have to interest the Yankees, not like the Yankees make a lot of deals to bring in prospects. Second, with Granderson's struggles versus lefties, they'd be wise to keep Cabrera around to occasionally platoon.
Also, eff the Cubs. The Yankees score a legit center field/lead-off option and the Cubs are staring at an HGH-less Rick Ankiel (#1 on my guys I hate in baseball list) and Mike Cameron's aging skills. Bah humbug.
/end overreactionary rant
- Back to the bullpen, Cubs may have interest in Blue Jays reliever Brian Wolfe. Wolfe will be 29 next year and had two fine seasons in 2007 and 2008, but was released last year after an 8.22 ERA. He'd certainly be a good spring training invite option.
- Outfielder Ryan Church was DFA'd by the Atlanta Braves, not a bad 4th/5th outfield option, but the Cubs seem to want right-handed bat for that role.
11:11 AM:
- J.J. Putz is a bullpen arm I wouldn't mind the Cubs pursuing if his medical records aren't stored in a skull and crossbones trapper keeper. Fox sports says the Cubs are one of six teams interested at the moment.
- Heyman tweeted earlier that a possibly 3-way trade between Yanks, DBacks and Tigers could be back on that would involve E. Jackson and C. Granderson, but it would cost the Yankees up to 4 players including Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson.
- The Randy Wolf signing to the Brewers is on hold as the Mets have made a late push.
The morning headlines...
- The Mets would like to move Luis Castillo and replace him with Orlando Hudson, but they also want to wait and see on Jason Bay and Matt Holliday, which is a complicated way of saying it would take too long for the Cubs' tastes to get a deal done with them. The good news - if there is such a thing when the Cubs are talking about eating $20M or so - is that Hendry can make a deal now and go over the projected budget as long as he fixes it by Opening Day. Dave Kaplan suggests this was not the case when Hendry was trying to move Sammy Sosa after 2004 and had to let Moises Alou go because of it.
- Kaplan also reiterates that Yankees seem to have the edge on Curtis Granderson but are also balking at the Tigers asking price - which presumably includes Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson. The Tigers supposedly asked for Starlin Castro and two higher end prospects from the Cubs.
- Mets and Brewers had some talks about a Corey Hart for John Maine swap.
- If you're a twitter user, don't forget the Cubscast campaign for Andre Dawson to the Hall appropriately starting at 1:20 pm CST.









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#1 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Cubs linked to J.J. Putz...
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10475170
#2 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Geez... Tigers want our new, shiny thing: Starlin Castro? No... he's the things dreams are made of.
#3 Re:
Bah humbug.
#4 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Free Milton Bradley!
#5 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Lots of interest in Bradley
Wittenmyer says the Cubs have given teams permission to talk directly with Milton Bradley but nobody has bothered.
#10 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
"The Cubs have not discussed Granderson as part of any multi-team deal. Two-way deals are hard enough to get done. What I've been told is that Hendry said to Dombrowski, "If you're going to trade Granderson, I'm interested."
Bruce Miles blog, yesterday
#6 Zambrano
Wittenmyer also says Z has lost 15 lbs.
scroll way down at the bottom of the page
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/...
#8 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
He's also building houses in Guatemala for the needy.
Finally matured?
#11 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Yeah... he doesn't even need a saw, he just breaks the 2x4s over his leg.
#7 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
So riddle me this...why wouldn't the Cubs want the switch-hitting O-Dog? When I think Castillo, I think about him dropping that can of corn to lose a game for the Mets (last season?). Could we imagine that happening at Wrigley?
#9 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Becuase they need an outfielder and a middle reliever according to Piniella
#12 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
The Cubs 'want' Castillo in that it would get rid of Bradley. Outside of dumping salary, I am sure the Cubs would be more interested in Hudson as well.
#13 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Per Wittenmeyer, if the Cubs take Burell, the flip may be to the Blue Jays for prospects.
Levine was on WMVP radio last night, and opined that that the next Cubs CF may well be Ankiel. He discounts the Cameron talk, citing Cameron's age and propensity for K's. Levine feels that Ankiel brings the right combination of youth, power, defense, left-handed hitting and affordability, especially since it looks more and more like the Cubs will be eating a substantial portion of Brqadley's salary.
#14 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
"Cubs CF may well be Ankiel"
As long as he brings McGwire's work out bag.
#15 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
lol
Honestly, I'd prefer Cameron over Akiel. I wish I could explain why.
#18 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Ankiel can be the 2nd loogy
#23 Re:
I can see the good and bad with both. Ankiel's more of a boom/bust guy, but he's likely to be cheaper and bats left handed. I'm not crazy about paying Cameron $8 million this year, but I'd really hate it if we were paying him the same next year.
There's going to be some nice FA's after 2010, it would be cool if we could afford one.
#40 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
I was going to reply and say I really like Cameron's defense, but that's not completely honest: Rather, I like the memories of Cameron's defense. I have no idea how long he'll be able to provide plus defense in CF. Plus, Cameron is a great guy (and that's important in the post-Bradley era).
So while Cameron over Ankiel would give me the warm and fuzzies, I'm not completely convinced it would be the best thing for the Cubs... especially considering that next year like you said.
#53 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
I'm confused, isn't Cameron the player with a failed steroid test on his resume.
#55 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
banned stimulant, not steroid
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/21561742/
might as well ban people for drinking too much coffee
#57 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Thanks for clarification, I'd also forgotten it was his second offense.
#17 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Maybe we can use him in the bullpen.
#16 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Hope he pays better attention to the warning track in Wrigley than he did in STL.
#19 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
My goodness, this is shaping up to be a whale of a crapper of an offseason. The goal of our team is to dump a guy and sign a cheap guy for centerfield, that is the sum of the Chicago Cubs offseason ambitions. Meanwhile, all of the top H players are available (Halliday, Holiday) not to mention other top free agents, Jason Bay, etc. Look at the difference in who the Red Sox, Yankees, etc. are targeting this offseason, or other teams with real ambitions of improving themselves, versus the depressing goals of the hand tied Chicago Cubs.
#20 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
All because we broke up a 97 win team in order to get more lefthanded.
#22 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
I can only hope that was a joke.
The Red Sox and Yankees both are losing FA left fielders with big paychecks, so they're open to adding FA left fielders with big paychecks. That's not too shocking. If Soriano were coming off the books, we'd probably be looking at Halladay and Bay too.
#24 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
The joke is that we are not really trying to improve the team this offseason. I suppose the point is that it gets frustrating to be locked into so much salary with so little flexibility, even via the trade route. How can a General Manager have anything left to manage when he can't move anyone, and has a payroll freeze? (by his own fault)
#26 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
Backloaded deals and addition by subtracting Harden,Fox,Heilman,Gregg and Bradley.
I've got us penciled in for 105 victories in 2010.
#28 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
The joke comment was directed towards Aaron. Had we brought back the same guys in 2009, we wouldn't have made the playoffs.
It's been two years in a row now that Hendry has had to move salary to add free agents. It's an awful business model - pay premium free agent prices, wait a year or two, then pay money to try and trade those players still on a premium contracts so that you can sign more players to premium contracts. But as long as management allows him to do it, he's going to continue to do so, apparently.
The one place where the minor league system seems ready to contribute - Hendry isn't even saving money there. He's signing Grabow and it looks like someone else, rather than giving more opportunity to Parker, Gaub et al.
His other position of minor league strength - where the Cubs can say they have legitimiate prospects spread across four levels - Hendry won't deal the most attractive asset to try and address some of his major league payroll issues.
#29 Re: Winter Meetings 2009 Day Two
So if the Cubs had signed Abreu and Orlando Hudson last year like we wanted. The cubs would have missed the playoffs?
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