TCR: No Good Will Come of This

All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Joe Inglett clubbed a two-run homer with two outs in the top of the 9th, as the Milwaukee Brewers overcame an early 3-0 deficit and defeated the Cubs 5-3 in Cactus League action at cold and rainy Dwight Patterson Field at HoHoKam Park this afternoon in Mesa.


The start of the game was delayed almost an hour as a noon-time downpour flooded HoHoKam Park. But the rain did stop, and the dark clouds gradually broke apart, even allowing the sun to shine through by mid-game.



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Randy Wells got the start for the Cubs today, and pitched three shutout innings (4/2 GO/FO), striking out two, and facing the minimum number of batters possible (nine) while throwing just 28 pitches (21 strikes), with the pitches fairly-evenly spread over the outing (12 pitches in the 1st inning, five in the second, and 11 in the third). He did allow a Craig Counsell first-inning line single to center, but then Counsell was erased when Wells picked him off with a nifty move, totally freezing the veteran like the proverbial "deer in headlights." Not satisfied with just a dominating pitching performance and a fancy pick-off, Wells also drove in a run with a sacrifice fly.


The Cubs threatened but did not score in the bottom of the 1st, as Ryan Theriot reached base on a infield single when Milwaukee starting pitcher Jeff Suppan could not cleanly handle a topper in front of the mound. Then with two outs, The Riot stole second and advanced to 3rd on a catcher's overthrow error, but Aramis Ramirez struck out (looking) to end the threat.


The Cubs fared better in the bottom of the 2nd, however, as Marlon Byrd roped a double into the LF corner leading off the inning, and Alfonso Soriano followed with another double off the CF "Green Monster" (Batter's Eye). But because Byrd went back to tag up at 2nd with the expectation that the ball might be caught, he did not have enough time to score on the play, and so the Cubs ended up with runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Mike Fontenot then lined a single to CF to score Byrd with the first Cub run (running at less than full-speed, Soriano held up at 3rd), and Wells knocked-in Soriano with his sac fly to right.


Derrek Lee lined a home run over the right-centerfield fence leading off the bottom of the third to make the score 3-0, and then closer Carlos Marmol got the early call (managers often will use their closer early in a Spring Training game so that he can face major league hitters). But Marmol struggled with his command today, as it took him 31 pitches to get through the one inning. He had nasty stuff and he did strikeout the side (Counsell, Edmonds, and Gerut), but he also allowed two runs (one earned) on a walk and two singles along the way. (One run was unearned because catcher Geovany Soto air-mailed a throw over Aramis Ramirez's head at 3rd base while trying to cut down Carlos Gomez on a stolen base attempt, allowing Gomez to score).


NRI RHP (and 2009 Cubs Minor League Pitcher of the Year) Casey Coleman was next to take the hill for the Cubs, and he worked two complete innings plus two batters into a third inning. He struggled with his control (43 pitches - only 21 strikes), but he also somehow found the means to pitch out of trouble, allowing just one run while stranding five Brewer baserunners during the course of the outing, all this despite allowing three hits (a single and two doubles), two walks, and a HBP. RHP Marcos Mateo relieved Coleman when the youngster reached his pre-planned pitch count max limit, and got the final two outs of the 7th inning.


While Coleman is expected to spend the 2010 season in the Iowa Cubs starting rotation (he projects as an MLB 4th or 5th starter), I suppose it is possible that Coleman might get "drafted" into the Cubs bullpen at some point, especially if there are no othyer viable options. While Coleman does not have closer (or even set-up) type stuff, he probably could make a decent middle-reliever capable of giving the Cubs a quality inning or two when needed.


Meanwhile, the Cubs threatened in both the 5th and 7th innings, but did not score.


Theriot led off with a double and Kosuke Fukudome followed with a walk in the bottom of the 5th, but both runners were left where they started after D-Lee lined out to LF, Ramirez popped-out to Brewer 1B Prince Fielder in foul territory, and Byrd flied out to deep left-center (nice running catch by Gomez).


Facing ex-WAS RHRP Marco Estrada in the bottom of the 7th with the score tied 3-3, PH Kevin Millar worked a lead-off walk, and was advanced to 2nd base when Sam Fuld put down a picture-perfect 1-4 sac bunt. Starlin Castro then reached base on an infield hit (a "swinging bunt" down the 3rd base line), with Millar advancing to 3rd with the potential go-ahead run. But then with Starlin Castro breaking off first, Micah Hoffpauir struck out swinging on a 3-2 pitch, and Castro was called out for sliding past 2nd base (he had the base stolen easily, too). I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases.


LHP James Russell worked a 1-2-3 top of the 8th for the Cubs, striking out the side on just 14 pitches. I wouldn't be surprised if Russell makes the Cubs Opening Day 25-man roster as a reliever, especially if both Tom Gorzelanny and Sean Marshall begin the season in the Cubs starting rotation (what with Ted Lilly not expected to be ready at the start of the season).


Tyler Colvin roped a single to RF with two outs in the bottom of the 8th, but Darwin Barney flied out to the warning track in deep right-center to end the inning, keeping the game tied at three going into the 9th.


2009 Iowa Cubs closer Blake Parker made his 2010 Cactus League debut in the 9th, and eventually allowed the two-out two-run game-winning HR to Inglett, after getting off on the wrong foot by walking the first man he faced. Like Randy Wells, Parker is a former catcher who was converted to pitcher by the Cubs, and while he has the potential to be a decent MLB reliever, he also has had a nasty habit of surrendering 9th inning gopher balls going back to the last couple of weeks of the PCL season last Summer and then again with the AFL Mesa Solar Sox in October-November '09. Perhaps as a direct result of this misfortune, Parker tends to nibble a lot (he threw 18 pitches in the 9th inning today, but only nine strikes), before having to groove a pitch down the middle to avoid another walk. He really needs to learn to just trust his stuff.


The Cubs went down 1-2-3 in the bottom of the 9th against Brewers NRI LHP A. J. Murray, although Welington Castillo did hit a near game-tying HR down ther RF line (it was caught by Jody Gerut on the warning track in front of the fence).


The San Francisco Giants visit HoHoKam Park tomorrow, and Carlos Zambrano is scheduled to get his second start in the game.

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#1 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

I would not normally bring it up this early in spring, but is there a concern that Aramis is hurting? Granted only 10 AB's, but for the lack of video to see, are these quality AB's? It's never good to strike out looking, but definitely viewed different if it is on a 8-9 pitch AB as opposed to 4. Just sayin'.

#7 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

He seemed fine on Saturday. His one of those guys who can roll out of bed and start hitting, by most reports. He may have been working on getting a feel for taking pitches rather than just hacking away in the AB you mentioned.

#10 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Submitted by thedirtbag on Tue, 03/09/2010 - 10:13pm.
I would not normally bring it up this early in spring, but is there a concern that Aramis is hurting? Granted only 10 AB's, but for the lack of video to see, are these quality AB's? It's never good to strike out looking, but definitely viewed different if it is on a 8-9 pitch AB as opposed to 4. Just sayin'.

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DIRT BAG: Aramis Ramirez and Jeff Baker are the two Cubs who look sick at the plate right now.

I thought it was odd when Ramirez didn't take "live" BP against Cubs pitchers at Fitch Park a couple of weeks ago, when it was said in the media that it's not that uncommon for the "big leaguers" to do that... except it IS unusual.

Ramirez took "live" BP in all other previous seasons, and he was the ONLY Cub hitter to not take "live" BP this year. And then in the 50-swing BP work-out at HoHoKam the day before the first Cactus League game, Ramirez did not get good swings until the last ten or so, when he was able to drive a couple of HR.

Taking a lot of BP myself, it looks like Ramirez is having problems getting loose, like he is hitting with some type of physical restriction, but it wouldn't necessariliy be that he's hurting. It could be he has his left shoulder harnessed or restricted in some way and he's trying to get used to playing with it. Or it could be a hand blister problem, or some type of neck or back stiffness.

In Baker's case, he plain looks flat, like he's in a profound slump. He just isn't getting good swings. And he has been this way pretty much from Day One at Fitch Park this Spring.

#2 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

I do not think that they have a muzzle big enough for this asshole.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/st...

#3 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

hendry gave him the contract and lou said he was up to it. he's not saying anything he hasn't already said. go ahead milton...hehe.

#11 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

It's just more of the same. Blaming everybody else for his shortcomings. I think everybody realizes that Bradley is a malcontent with severe behavioral issues. Asking him about his time in Chicago is like asking the retarded kid down the street about his thoughts on the economy or the Civil War. You know he's going to say something goofy. You're just not sure what it's going to be.

#22 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

So tell me Sweet Lou, what are your thoughts on the Civil War?

Sorry, just too easy ; )

#26 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Touche'

#28 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

You folded too soon. Ask TRN what his thoughts are on the economy.

#15 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Yes, Milton. Chicago is the reason you sucked in 2009. Okay.

#4 speaking of this bradley thing

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball...

love the headline

"Piniella called out by Bradley — again
Attitude in clubhouse makes for loose ballclub as it prepares for long season"

Trib is really gonna drive home that better clubhouse angle even if their stories have nothing to do with it

#5 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/...

this is the video interview link

speaking of titles...mini-series to follow?

Bradley on Chicago: 'I was a prisoner in my own home'

#17 Re:

To be fair, the fans are drunk douchebags. Really, I'd blame them for Milton Bradley's problems, not Milton Bradley.

#71 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Ohh a prisoner in his own own home ehhh? Oh cute, now he knows how his pregnant wife felt when he beat her and took all the keys and phones and then ran like a pussy when the cops came.

And using your 3 year old as a shield like Dusty Baker is pretty sad. Remember what was supposedly going on to his child?

"Parents, teachers and their kids called him the n-word,"

Not just 1 or 2 isolated people, by faculty, parents and even other kids were calling his son nigger. I think most people understand that was a pathetic lie to excuse ones behavior.

There was never any information on where his son went to pre-school at. The last we heard was he wanted joint custody of his son and didn't want to pay spousal support. If he got joint custody then his ex-wife (the one he divorced shortly after trying to choke her out) then the child would likely be in pre-school in California.

The racism accusation came from Bradley who told his mom and his mom told a radio station. No one from the school, or anyone else has defended Bradley's remarks. And if his childs school was in California it further erodes his racism claim. Because you now have to believe his child was enrolled at the most pro-Cubs/Chicago enclave on the west coast. Racism was so bad in Chicago it got export half way across the country.

But what do you believe? Do you believe the guy who will drop the race card at the drop of a dime when the going gets tough? Its like clock-work, shit hits the fan, bam, slam down the racism excuse and slink out the door like a rat.

Bradley gives reason after reason why he is a "race baiter" of the highest form. He will find racism in a white crayon if you let him.

#74 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

if you let him.
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#6 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Could someone please tell me the status of Chad Tracy? Is he injured? Thanks.

#8 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

"I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases."

Interesting, Phil, that Castro reminded you of Ronny Cedeno. Not too many players remind me of Cedeno. But then, Felix Pie never reminded me of Corey Patterson.

When I heard that Castro overslid a base,I was reminded of Podsednik

But Podsednik overslid the bag and was called out by the second base umpire despite the protests of Podsednik and Manager Ozzie Guillen.

and Nyger Morgan

Morgan has a propensity to slide into second on the outside part of the base and tag the base with his outstretched left hand. But that doesn't stop his momentum and has led to him oversliding the base on a handful of stolen base attempts. In one such instance, he was then tagged out after beating the throw.

and Vince Coleman

Coleman overslid third base, winding up somewhere near the coaching box, so he hopped up and started home.

and Maury Wills

During one of his rampages, he ran up a streak of 20 consecutive stolen bases, getting caught the 21st time when he overslid the bag.

and Hank Aaron

Hank Aaron hit doubles in consecutive times at bat in extra innings, but each time overslid 2nd and was tagged out.

#12 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Submitted by VirginiaPhil on Wed, 03/10/2010 - 8:09am.
Interesting, Phil, that Castro reminded you of Ronny Cedeno. Not too many players remind me of Cedeno. But then, Felix Pie never reminded me of Corey Patterson.

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VA PHIL: I only meant that when Starlin Castro overslid second-base and got tagged out for the final out of the inning, I thought of the game where Cedeno overslid second-base on a walk and got tagged out for the final out of the game. Don't you remember that? It was a classic moment that helped to define Cedeno in many Cubs fans minds.

But I am not --REPEAT -- not saying Castro is another Ronny Cedeno. It was just funny that Castro (who is also a shortstop) did a "Cedeno." That's all.

Some of us Old Fart Cub fans have had said for years that it seems like the Cubs have a manual that their minor leaguers are required to study that outlines all the stupid plays Cubs have made over the years, and then the young players are expected to learn to do it that way. That's why the Castro play was funny.

#13 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

"But Podsednik overslid the bag and was called out by the second base umpire despite the protests of Podsednik and Manager Ozzie Guillen."

I believe this was agains the Cubs last year on Fox Saturday game. Second base ump was miked and after he called Pods out, Pods said "You are going to call that?"

Ump-"Yeah! Why do you think I'm out here for?
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Classic.

Cedeno had a long list of stupid things, the over sliding second on a walk was the topper.

#14 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

HAHA!

Man, re-hashing Cedeno. lol

That is brilliant that his name is now a verb, or adjective. "He Cedeno-ed that play."

Just as dumb-as-a-post guy (baseball-wise) with some natural abilities.

Many things I can think of make me throw up in my mouth when thinking of him: "pulling out" from 2B to avoid a hard slide by a Met (or Brave, maybe). Not calling an IF pop and letting it hit him in the head. The former, and letting it drop at his feet. Air-mailing throws. Over-sliding, blowing tag-ups...

But, yes gents, the over-sliding on a walk was the topper for me too! Long live the Pirates!

#20 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

If I remember correctly, Cedeno was trying to steal on the pitch, and the catcher threw to second base. Cedeno, not knowing that the pitch was called a ball, slid into second, and like many others in the course of baseball history, overslid the bag and was called out.

Like all the others that had overslid the bag, Cedeno made a mistake. But the fact that he did it on a play that turned out to be a walk was irrelivant. Cedeno may have been stupid, but that play had nothing to do with it.

#9 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Were any of those guys young stars in the Cubs system playing the same position as Castro just a few years ago? No. So it is not surprising at all that Phil thought of Cedeno.

If a young outfielder for the Cubs hit 3 home runs on opening day this year, would you first think of Tuffy Rhodes or Dmitri Young?

#23 Re:

His point was that even the greatest base stealers in history overslid bases, and that making a big deal about Cedeno doing it one time is an overreaction.

It's a physical error, people need to get over it.

#73 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

I just don't like to see Castro's name tied to Cedeno's, even if Castro is the straight man like Bud Abbott or Dean Martin.

I was able to dig up an mlb.com video of the infamous overslide and, interestingly, it took me a while to figure out what RC had actually done wrong, other than oversliding, of course, which happens to the best of 'em.

Why, in other words, has this only ever happened to Cedeno?

In Cedeno's defense, Molina and Eckstein sold the thing so well that even the second base ump turned his back to the plate and got in position to make the call. Then he hesitated and looked back toward home; but Cedeno obviously didn't have the leisure for that.

Here's what I think Cedeno did wrong. When you're running on 3 and 2, it's not a steal, it's a hit and run. On a steal, you expect the hitter to take, and your focus is on getting to second and sliding. On 3 and 2, you expect the hitter to put the bat on the ball and you have to look around to pick up the ball. It could be a ground single between first and second, and you don't want to fall for the shortstop's decoy and go into a slide that will force you to stop at second.

It was a lapse in situational awareness, compounded by great situational awareness on the part of two Cardinals, and of course by the overslide.

#78 Re:

VA Phil-
Correct me if I'm wrong, was he not the tying run and that out ended the game?

~might be adding to the legend~

#87 Re:

Jacos, IIRC, there was one out at the time, so instead of runners on 1st and 2nd and only one out, there was a runner on 1st and two outs.

#88 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

THx Joe.

Was he the tying run?

Was it in the ninth?

I know it was late in the game.

#92 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

one out, 3-2 count, JJ up, close pitch and the ump didn't make any gesture at home, JJ didn't immediately go towards first base IIRC.

2nd base ump gets in normal position to call the play and Cedeno beats the throw but his foot comes off the bag and Eckstein keeps the tag on.

it was an unfortunate play, but if that's called a strike, Cedeno's the final out and it certainly wasn't clear in the split second that Cedeno probably did look up that it was a ball.

I recall being more upset about the lack of a definitive ball or strike call at the time.
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2007/04/20/livid

#109 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

It was the bottom of the ninth, 2-1 Cards leading the Cubs. He was the tying run -- he entered the game as a pinch runner for DeRosa, who singled after Aramis flied out to start the inning.

#113 Re: All's Wells at HoHoKam Park

Ah..now I know why it was magnified a little bit more.

Once again thanks, Joe.

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