Cubs Trounce Angels at Diablo Park

Bobby Wagner crushed a three-run HR off the Angels clubhouse beyond the RF fence, Charles Thomas ripped a two-run double, and Austin Kirk threw four shutout innings, leading the EXST Cubs to a 10-3 thrashing of the EXST Angels in Cactus League Extended Spring Training action at Diablo Park Field #3 at the Tempe Buttes this morning.


A 19-year old 6'1 LHP out of Owasso HS - Owasso, OK, Kirk (the Cubs 3rd round draft pick in 2009) allowed just two hits and a walk in his four innings of work, lowering his EXST ERA to 3.95 and his EXST WHIP to 1.39. He induced a timely inning-ending 5-4-3 GIDP to get out of the 2nd inning, and used a nifty pick-off move to erase a runner in the 3rd.


Here is today’s abridged box score (EXST Cubs players only):


LINEUP:
1. Runey Davis, CF: 2-5 (5-3, 1B, 1B, K, P-4, R, RBI)
2. Arismendy Alcantara, 2B: 0-5 (5-3, 4-3, E-4, E-1, 5-3, 2 R, SB)
3. Jesus Morelli, RF: 1-4 (HBP, F-8, 1B, F-8, 5-3, R, RBI)
4. Charles Thomas, DH #1: 1-4 (4-U FC, 6-3, 2B, F-9, R, 2 RBI)
5. Brandon May, 3B: 2-3 (2B, F-9, BB, 1B, 2 R, RBI)
6. Bobby Wagner, 1B: 1-4 (6-3, F-9, HR, K, R, 3 RBI)
7. Albert Hernandez, DH #2: 1-3 (1B, BB, 5-3, K, R)
8. Carlos Romero, C: 0-3 (BB, 5-3, 1-3, F-8, R)
9. Wes Darvill, SS: 0-3 (BB, F-8, 4-3, E-4, RBI)
10. Cody Shields, LF: 0-3 (F-9 SF, 3-U, K, K, RBI)


PITCHERS:
1. Austin Kirk – 4.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 PO, 1 GIDP, 5/5 GO/FO, 59 pitches (39 strikes)
2. Tzu-An Wang – 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1/2 GO/FO, 22 pitches (11 strikes)
3. Carlos Rojas – 1.1 IP, 1 H, 2 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 2 K, 1 HR, 1/1 GO/FO, 28 pitches (19 strikes)
4. Danny Keefe - 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 2 K, 1/0 GO/FO, 19 pitches (13 strikes)
5. Yohan Gonzalez – 1.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K, 23 pitches (15 strikes)


ERRORS: (1)
SS Wes Darvill E-6 (throwing error allowed batter to reach base safely – did not score)


ATTENDANCE: 10


WEATHER: sunny & cloudless with temperatures in the 80’s


 

Comments

AZ Phil - never mind. I saw your answer in the previous post.

Your expert knowledge is appreciated. Thanks.

AZ Phil -
What do you think of the minor league promotions?

Cashner to AAA seems very understandable given his recent dominance.

Castro to MLB seems questionable, to say the least - how does it affect his service clock?

The Vitters promotion is the one I'm most curious about. I've never seen (in the stat lines or in video) him tearing it up. How did he earn the promotion?

Thanks Phil

Submitted by Jumbo on Fri, 05/07/2010 - 4:04pm.
AZ Phil -
What do you think of the minor league promotions?

Cashner to AAA seems very understandable given his recent dominance.

Castro to MLB seems questionable, to say the least - how does it affect his service clock?

The Vitters promotion is the one I'm most curious about. I've never seen (in the stat lines or in video) him tearing it up. How did he earn the promotion?

Thanks Phil

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Jumbo: The Castro promotion (with Theriot moving to 2B) was inevitable but I was surprised it happened this soon. Although hot-shot young prospects like Castro often go directly from AA to the big leagues without ever playing AAA, I really thought Castro would spend some time at AAA this season just so he could see some veteran-type pitchers before he hit The Show maybe in September.

As far as Castro's service clock, he gets a 4th minor league option (as of now anyway) because he has accrued only one "full season" through the 2009 season. (A "full season" is defined as spending at least 90 days on the active list of an MLB and/or full-season minor league team or teams, or at least 60 days spent on the active list of an MLB and/or full-season minor league team or teams followed by time spent on the Disabled List where the total time accrued is at least 90 days).

As far as possible Super Two status for Castro is concerned, the amount of MLB Service Time needed to qualify as a "Super Two" varies from season-to-season (it was 2+139 post-2009), so if Castro stays in MLB and doesn't get sent back to the minors, he will accrue 149 days of MLB ST in 2010, meaning he will be at 2+149 by the end of the 2012 season, and a player with 2+149 MLB ST ALWAYS has qualified as a "Super Two." If the Cubs wanted to avoid that with Castro, they should have waited another month before bringing him up. Apparently it's not a big deal to Hendry.

I agree that the Cashner promotion was a no-brainer. He dominated AA and now he'll have a chance to face more-experienced hitters in the PCL. I still believe he will end up in the bullpen as the Cubs 8th inning set-up guy before the end of the season (he was the #1 closer in college baseball at TCU in 2008), but the Cubs apparently believe he can be a top of the rotation starter.

I was a bit surprised that Vitters got promoted to AA at this time. If anything I thought he might have started the season at AA, but once he was assigned to Daytona during Minor League Camp I figured he'd stay there for at least half a season or until he caught fire. He's done OK at Daytona and has made some progress, so hopefully he won't struggle at AA.

The Cubs have been more aggressive over the past couple of years in promoting players and sometimes having the better prospects jump a level. I think this is because of the new ownership's desire to develop players from within. That also might mean that Hendry will not trade prospects as willingly as he has in the past.

Phil,

Any thoughts on Hak-Ju Lee, Ryan Flaherty, or Kyler Burke so far this season? Is it too early to comment on their performances?

Submitted by Charlie on Fri, 05/07/2010 - 9:40pm.
Phil,

Any thoughts on Hak-Ju Lee, Ryan Flaherty, or Kyler Burke so far this season? Is it too early to comment on their performances?

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CHARLIE: Ryan Flaherty was probably pushed too far to start the season at AA Tennessee. Daytona is probably where he belongs right now, although he had a good Minor League Camp and actually earned the Opening Day roster slot at Tennessee.

Kyler Burke spent all or parts of three seasons in the Midwest League before he finally mastered the level and won the Cubs 2009 Minor League Player of the Year Award. So coming into the 2010 season there was some question about whether he would be able to adjust to Daytona right away or if it might take him some time as it did at Peoria. So we'll have to wait and see where he's at in September, although his start has been disappointing.

I wouldn't worry much about Hak-Ju Lee. He's still very young (19) and just 18 months removed from TJS, so there are bound to be some speed bumps along the way. But he's running the bases very well and his hitting should come around.

Thanks, Phil!

The Cubs have been more aggressive over the past couple of years in promoting players and sometimes having the better prospects jump a level. I think this is because of the new ownership's desire to develop players from within. That also might mean that Hendry will not trade prospects as willingly as he has in the past.

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Do you think this aggressive philosophy has been an effort to purge the system of the career minor leaguers that had been occupying the organization? It seems like moving guys up to AAA to simultaneously rid the organization of DuBois would be the goal. Or is it a different approach to handling prospects altogether?

Submitted by Jumbo on Sat, 05/08/2010 - 4:36am.

Do you think this aggressive philosophy has been an effort to purge the system of the career minor leaguers that had been occupying the organization? It seems like moving guys up to AAA to simultaneously rid the organization of DuBois would be the goal. Or is it a different approach to handling prospects altogether?

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JUMBO: I don't think being more aggressive with promoting the better prospects means the Cubs are trying to avoid signing minor league free-agents to fill holes at AAA or that the Cubs are trying minimize the number of organizational players on minor league rosters. What I do think it means is that the Cubs are now more-willing to let a player temporarily "flunk" a level and get demoted without worrying about whether the player will react negatively to that failure, instead using a failure and the way the player handles it (or doesn't handle it) as a test to help determine the character of the player.

In the past the Cubs might have been a bit more inclined to move players more slowly or deliberately so as to not risk damaging the player's psyche, but also to allow a plasyer to put together a really good full year at one level. The one thing the Cubs probably do not want to do is let a player perhaps lose a bit of his edge by getting too comfortable at a certain level.

castro > heyward

castro > ruth

castro >> dimaggio

silva < zambrano (not that there was ever a question)

Sample size alert
through 3pa
667/667/1571

This game has been fun to watch
Not missing Baker/Font right now

Fontenot took exception to that and walloped a grand slam.

It looks like Castro set the major league record for rbi in a rookie's first game with 6. Yes?. Cooperstown here we come.

but let me just say

Holy Fuck that was awesome!

Congrats Starlin...

STARLIN CASTRO IS THE BEST BALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME. INO WHAT YOU ARE THINKING THOUGH, WHAT ABOUT HEYWARD? RIGHT? PROBLEM IS CASTRO IS HEYWARD TIMES 5. YEA.

HEYWARD? WHO THE HELL IS HEYWARD? OH YEAH, YESTERDAY'S NEWS.

STARLIN CASTRO IS BIGGER THAN JESUS ON STILTS.

Jesus built those stilts. Just sayin...

Dunno if he built them, but he carried them.

Castro, however, spent his time on the flight to Cincy whittling his new bat "Tough Luck", which he introduced to Homer Bailey with one powerful swing.

AZ Phil:

Routine day off for Chen or has his arm been hurting again? I know you said that he hurt himself and need surgery a while back and was just wondering if that was the case for today. Is he a player that goes to Boise or stays for AZL?

Thanks as always.

Submitted by W Flag on Fri, 05/07/2010 - 10:53pm.
AZ Phil:

Routine day off for Chen or has his arm been hurting again? I know you said that he hurt himself and need surgery a while back and was just wondering if that was the case for today. Is he a player that goes to Boise or stays for AZL?

Thanks as always.

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W FLAG: Just a routine Camp Day today for Ping-Chieh Chen. He hasn't had surgery (at least not yet).

I'm not sure whether Chen will go to Boise or stay with the other two Taiwanese players (the two Wangs) at AZL Cubs. As well as he has hit so far at EXST, Chen will have to play defense (probably 2B) if he wants to go to Boise. The Cubs won't send him there just to be a DH.

Viva Revolution!

I just sort of liked that Castro popped an opposite field homer, even if it probably would have been a fly out in a lot of parks. And the triple he hit looked like a slider that actually was cutting down.

It's possible we'll get a good six weeks out of this kid offensively before they figure out something to get him out on --- unless he's the first rookie in my lifetime of watching baseball -- other than that rat bastard Pujols maybe -- who doesn't have an exploitable weakness.

This at least adds some fun. This season was getting really depressing.

Bringing up Castro was Pinella/Hendry's second attempt to shake up the team, change the vibe, whatever. First was moving Z to the bullpen. If the Cubs had gotten on a tear after Z went to the pen (even if it had nothing to do with his personal performance) Castro would still be in Tenn. Give it 20 games and if the Cubs are still plodding along the next move will be to bring up Cashner and put him in the pen. 20 games after that and it's still the same crap and Lou will be gone.

Has anyone else noticed that Carlos Silva is our stopper?

ATL Heyward (groin) could hit disabled list
CHC Cubs prospect Castro has HR, 6 RBI in debut

...and the torch is passed.

we sat through some great times watching HOF'r jason heyward apply his craft...a player the likes of which we never thought we'd see again.

then comes castro.

a new era of baseball is upon us.

this is the biggest thing to happen to baseball since the invention of the bat.

AZ PHIL: Any Chris Carpenter sightings/news lately? I know he has been struggling with recent arm troubles.

Thanks.

Submitted by The E-Man on Sat, 05/08/2010 - 12:25pm.
AZ PHIL: Any Chris Carpenter sightings/news lately? I know he has been struggling with recent arm troubles.

Thanks.

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E-MAN: I haven't heard that Chris Carpenter will be coming back to Fitch Park. He made his most-recent start for AA Tennessee two days ago without any reported physical set-backs, and he has now made all four of his scheduled starts for the Smokies.

He apparently got lit-up pretty good on Thursday, though, so he quite possibly is not yet 100% on his game. I was a bit surprised that he made only one rehab game appearance at EXST before getting moved up to Tennessee, but he probably was getting cabin fever down here.

"Cubs Castro Decision Brings Questions"

A few words from Paul Sullivan:

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/...

"There's not a whole lot the Cubs can do with the starting lineup, but sources said Andrew Cashner, who was promoted to Triple-A Iowa, may be headed to the Cubs' rotation soon. That would mean Randy Wells or Tom Gorzelanny is on the spot."

carlos silva what?

carlos silva what?
---
he's too big to move

hah!

Anyway, there's a different smell here. Scan these comments, notice ROOKIE from AA got forced into Lou's lineup, and you see what GETTING RID OF THE TRIB has done! I say Yee-Ha! Thanks Tom.

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  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 7 min 19 sec ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 52 min 30 sec ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 39 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 2 hours 40 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 46 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 3 hours 23 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 23 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 26 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 3 hours 29 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 30 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 3 hours 34 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 3 hours 46 min ago view
  • I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 52 min ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

    exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...

    crunch 3 hours 54 min ago view
  • That would be Rice Krispy Treat

    The E-Man 5 hours 13 min ago view
  • "Crunch's cousin"

    Butterfinger or Baby Ruth?

    VirginiaPhil 5 hours 27 min ago view